Fire Coach Woodson Thread

[Golfman25 5,598]

1 hour ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

It’d be near impossible with IU’s NIL to not land a few decent players.  

Wanna bet?  :)   

[DLG3 1,067]

We really should’ve fired Woodson and went with dusty. He would’ve been our floor in the coaching search. Whoever we get next year will almost certainly be worse, imo. 

Completely agree. I’m a Dusty homer, but my gut says IU will regret it big time.


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[DChoosier 8,661]

7 minutes ago, ib4iu said:

Goodman just tweeted that Louisville is hiring Pat Kelsey from Charleston. Leaves an opening for us and Schertz. Maybe he waits for a bigger job than SLU. 

I admittedly know very little about Kelsey but he is only 48, has been a HC for 12 years and has won his conference an impressive six of the twelve years (also has  2 seconds and 2 thirds). 

[AZ Hoosier 7,399]

3 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

So hilarious "Hmmmm, almost like someone has been telling all of you to calm down, not believe the doom. To quit worrying. Now you are seeing ... some of it. More coming, chill." 

What exactly is it that we are "now seeing" because last I checked, we still have no recruits after our 5 star decommitted when we announced we were bringing our HC back. Dude is a complete and total joke, wannabe insider... he is 100% portraying himself that way.

I used to like reading his posts but somewhere along the way he became way too combative. Sad to see his delusion spill over in so many ways... but he is sure pumped to have those 200 followers behind him! Hope he gets the help he needs. 

And remember, the good ones, the ones that Woodson wants - those guys haven't' entered the portal yet. Looks like Woodson isn't the only delusional one.

[Home Jersey 8,136]

1 minute ago, DLG3 said:

Serious question…do you guys think if this coming season goes south that the next IU head coaching search will be as embarrassing as Louisville’s? Kelsey may turn out great, I don’t know. But the optics on the whole thing have been brutal for them. We all just want to think that anyone (Pearl, etc) would leave for the IU job, but my confidence in that gets lower by the day and by each failed season.

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I agree on the optics being bad, but man, at this point... if we could get a coach with a similar profile to Kelsey next year, I'd be happy. 12 years as a HC at Winthrop and CofC have been pretty darn good, record wise. Looks like a consistent winner on the surface, not familiar with his style of play and what not though. I have super low expectations/hopes for our next HC hire. 

[ib4iu 350]

I’m the Josh Schertz hype man. And if he and the core stick st ISU one more year and have a deep run we go after him and bring Conwell and Avila for their senior seasons. 

[Hovadipo 56,550]

18 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Can you ask him to unblock me. I thought we were BFF’s. I might disagree but I still want to read his stuff. 

Sounds like you also need a burner.

[cleeter 2,128]

5 minutes ago, DLG3 said:

Serious question…do you guys think if this coming season goes south that the next IU head coaching search will be as embarrassing as Louisville’s? Kelsey may turn out great, I don’t know. But the optics on the whole thing have been brutal for them. We all just want to think that anyone (Pearl, etc) would leave for the IU job, but my confidence in that gets lower by the day and by each failed season.


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I would like to hope not. I would say that feelers by Dolson have already been put out this season will have information that could be carried into next year on how people see us. I would also say that Dolson would/could be putting out feelers behind the scenes all season long if it goes haywire or looks bleak. Seems like the plan is to move on next season barring a crazy run. Again, all hypotheticals and my guesses. 

[AZ Hoosier 7,399]

Just now, cleeter said:

I would like to hope not. I would say that feelers by Dolson have already been put out this season will have information that could be carried into next year on how people see us. I would also say that Dolson would/could be putting out feelers behind the scenes all season long if it goes haywire or looks bleak. Seems like the plan is to move on next season barring a crazy run. Again, all hypotheticals and my guesses. 

If Dolson is not doing that yet, then he's just not doing his job. 

[Hovadipo 56,550]

2 minutes ago, ib4iu said:

I’m the Josh Schertz hype man. And if he and the core stick st ISU one more year and have a deep run we go after him and bring Conwell and Avila for their senior seasons. 

If the Hautians are to be believed (dangerous game there!) Schertz has signed some sort of agreement with SLU, but not an employment contract. I've heard buyout numbers floated (and I'm not a contract lawyer so I don't know if it's even realistic to have a buyout on a MOU) and the numbers are large. All that to say, Schertz will almost certainly not be at ISU next season.

[JF87 1,511]

9 minutes ago, DChoosier said:

I admittedly know very little about Kelsey but he is only 48, has been a HC for 12 years and has won his conference an impressive six of the twelve years (also has  2 seconds and 2 thirds). 

He's a really good coach.  The two questions are can he recruit ACC level players and can he withstand the Louisville pressure cooker?  

[cleeter 2,128]

5 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

If Dolson is not doing that yet, then he's just not doing his job. 

Agreed, so that is in my hope that if/when we relieve Mike of his duties next season, that we would already have a plan in place. But i feel like that is almost asking too much

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 8,707]

2 hours ago, Chris007 said:

He played 34 minutes against NW when 5 players were suspended for curfew and we lost. 

Yea I don't want him playing 30+. We are 0-2 when he does. That game against NW, which we were close somehow and against Wisconsin his freshman year I believe he played 45.

[Chris007 44,323]

26 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

Did I miss what great amazing thing happened that tyme is referring to? Did we land a explosive player that I missed?

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We got Tucker on campus which is a good get but he will take some time to get used to playing CBB just like Mgbako. Several guys who entered the portal have some IU ties but their not difference-makers. I mean was yesterday better than the day before yes. But it's still the same guy coaching the same old out dated offense. 

[cleeter 2,128]

48 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I wanted to check Tyme out on twitter because I have never seen him before. I'm blocked. Not sure how I'm blocked from someone I've never even seen on there before. It has to be NGW. I love it Woodson is playing chess while all the other coaches are playing checkers. 

Woodson in Chess - 1.f3

[ib4iu 350]

1 minute ago, Hovadipo said:

If the Hautians are to be believed (dangerous game there!) Schertz has signed some sort of agreement with SLU, but not an employment contract. I've heard buyout numbers floated (and I'm not a contract lawyer so I don't know if it's even realistic to have a buyout on a MOU) and the numbers are large. All that to say, Schertz will almost certainly not be at ISU next season.

That could be the case, but I still think if he were getting calls or some interest from Louisville as rumored, if that core can stay together he’d be better served to stick at ISU one more year than move on to SLU. SLU has had some big name coaches in the last 25 years and outside of like 2-3 seasons they’ve not been anything but have been one of the highest paying A10 jobs. No coach has been able to have sustained success there. Seems kind of like an Iowa or Minnesota type of gig in the A10. 
 

#SchertztoIU2025

[Hoosierfan2017 21,640]

16 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

Wanna bet?  :)   

Our donors may have millions to burn betting on Mike Woodson, but I unfortunately do not lol. 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 8,707]

2 hours ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

 Yes, if he had played the magical 20 instead of 18 against Purdue, we would have won instead of getting 20 pieced. 

Well no, but maybe if he had been playing a more consistent 15-20 all season? Instead of trying to force feed Gunn and Banks. Think maybe we would have been even just a bit better off as a team?

[Chris007 44,323]

22 minutes ago, JF87 said:

Chris has a stalker.  Chris- Don't go straight home after work. Drive around in circles so you can shake any car tailing you.  

I'm sure BTB is sending their best security to help me get home. I  did notice a funny-looking guy staring at me on my way back from lunch. 

[str8baller 5,408]

11 minutes ago, DLG3 said:

Serious question…do you guys think if this coming season goes south that the next IU head coaching search will be as embarrassing as Louisville’s? Kelsey may turn out great, I don’t know. But the optics on the whole thing have been brutal for them. We all just want to think that anyone (Pearl, etc) would leave for the IU job, but my confidence in that gets lower by the day and by each failed season.


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The process that led to hiring Woody is more embarrassing than what UL did. They got into a bidding war for the hottest young candidate and lost, settling on another young, promising candidate. That’s life on the open market and not that embarrassing, except to maybe their alumni who convinced themselves they had Drew and that May was a fallback option.  
 

Some people around here have Quinn Buckner-Archie Miller brain, where they convinced themselves Dusty May wasn’t the biggest name available and that he was only popular here because he was a former manager. May had as good of a mid-major profile for a guy ready to make a big time jump as I can remember in at least a couple years. Again, that doesn’t mean he’s a sure thing, but every bug school with an opening would have had him at least on their shortlist. And Lville lost a bidding war versus another P5 school for him.  
 

With that said, Kelsey has a pretty good resume too. He might be a great coach there. Or maybe not. From the outside looking in it is a completely defensible hire.  
 

(so “yes” I fully expect IUs next hiring process to be more embarrassing)