Soon to RETIRE Coach Woodson Thread

[coonhounds 9,704]

And on the 7th day, btb rested.

Game day! We will have new material good or bad in a few hours. No rest!

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[Class of '66 Old Fart 86,803]

FWIW, Pearl had the #1 ranked '25 A. J. Dybansta on campus yesterday for an OV.  How about a package deal?

[kottke 814]

6 hours ago, hper50 said:

I’m struggling with the same if anyone could comment on this here or PM me too 

Ok think I figured it out. You have to click the little sliders next to the search box and use the “from” option. Hope this helps:

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[IUCrazy2 2,579]

9 hours ago, Hornsby said:

It was clearly alot of old time guys who were convinced their buddy could get it done. I knew we would eventually get an iu guy unless the former coaches worked out. But I suspected it would be a younger guy like fife or even Lewis never a 64 year old with no college experience.

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I am not advocating for him but if we had to go the IU guy route, the only pick that wouldn't have been borderline suicidal for the program was Alford.  He is the only guy who has been fairly successful at being a D1 college coach in the "IU guy" tree.  

You don't hand the keys to this job to Fife, Lewis, or Woodson.  Not for what was needing done at the time.  Alford probably wasn't a great pick at the time either, but for the time, he was the ONLY "IU guy" that should have been part of the discussion.  The old heads picked Woodson but I think in the past when players talked about getting an IU guy, it was Alford they had in mind.

And before I get the "OMG he is awful, no way..." posts, I am saying he was the best option out of the very limited pool of "IU guy" because he was the most known and does have P5 experience and accomplishments he could point to as a head coach.  That being said, I think the "IU guy" was a panic hire and we should have reevaluated after choice #1 turned us down.  The "IU guy" coaching tree was pretty thin.  It still mostly is except you have another guy you could put up there with Alford as maybe being a realistic (if not quite proven) option.

[hper50 1,416]

8 hours ago, bourbonhoosier27 said:

I have been following this website since the Crean days but I’m drunk tonight and finally decided to sign up for an account and post something. I may be wrong, but I do not think I’ve seen so many fans on this website and Twitter ready to move on to a different coaching staff in my young (compared to some on here) life. I think the combination of Woodsons age, lack of recruits signed, and overall roster and game management have made it clear that we have to make a coaching change ASAP. Tbh I’m not sure who my preferred next coach would be but if we got Dusty or Pearl I’d be way more optimistic and excited about the future than I am right now. Again, just drunk and a first time poster.


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[HoosierFan1994 4,808]

Went to the NFL Combine yesterday. On the way back, we stopped at Mother Bear's. As I sit down I see the big TV at the Bar has the Auburn game on..wasn't like it was on CBS or big ESPN. I think that's a sign folks..

[Tom White 1,435]

13 hours ago, steubenhoosier said:

Or, when you come into a thread like that and hope we are better than what is being said.

It is a bit funny, in retrospect. I remember before the season, and early in the season, people were looking at the polls and complaining the people who voted in those polls were not giving IU enough "respect". Even to the point of calling the pollsters names and claiming a vendetta against IU, or at least that the pollsters were idiots and how we would show them to be idiots.

My how things have changed.

[Henryville Hoosier 1,009]

4 minutes ago, HoosierFan1994 said:

Went to the NFL Combine yesterday. On the way back, we stopped at Mother Bear's. As I sit down I see the big TV at the Bar has the Auburn game on..wasn't like it was on CBS or big ESPN. I think that's a sign folks..

Mother Bear knows.

[IUCrazy2 2,579]

Just now, Henryville Hoosier said:

Mother Bear knows.

Unrelatrd but man, I would love if that place could franchise to the northern Indianapolis suburbs....

[hoosierbannerd 2,175]

My plan today...watch the ladies kick turtle arse and read the men's game thread hoping for a further nail in the coffin so to speak... Excited for my Wildkats taking on Fishers next Saturday at the 4A Regional!

 

[AZ Hoosier 8,582]

20 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

And on the 7th day, btb rested.

 

[DoctorP 1,421]

14 minutes ago, kottke said:

Ok think I figured it out. You have to click the little sliders next to the search box and use the “from” option. Hope this helps:

EDIT: Not trying to share private discord stuff, just showing how to search. Hope this is ok to share.

Is that second point about Woody? 

[HoosierFan1994 4,808]

1 minute ago, Henryville Hoosier said:

Mother Bear knows.

 

haha I got a good laugh out of it when I sat down. Just sad...Watched a lot of games last night (Michigan State-Purdue, Houston-Oklahoma, Tennessee-Bama..even Arkansas-Kentucky)...they're playing a different game than IU.

[Feathery 4,005]

1 hour ago, str8baller said:

I see Pearl as a pretty “high floor/low ceiling” candidate. I’d have reservations giving a bunch of money for a guy who is going to be 70 in 5 or 6 years. The history of coaches past 70 isn’t promising. Even the greatest coaches slow down by then.  
 

I’ve known enough good businessman, attorneys, etc…that were able to keep up a high level past that age that’d I’d never say it can’t be done. But coaching, while obviously a mental endeavor, really seems to take a physical toll, too. I don’t know if it’s the travel or stress or whatever, but it’s a taxing job.  
 

In other words, you likely get Pearl to come in and rebuild the program for a couple years, have a couple good years, and then either are looking to move on from him or have him build your succession plan.

 

It’s not the worst plan by any means. I don’t think it’s entirely clear to me you pass up taking a chance on a guy who you think could be great for 20 years. That is, of course, if you’re convinced such a person exists and isn’t just the next flavor of the year. 

Great post. Though I think Oearl can make a final four and possibly a national title in 6 years or less. So even if he is a bridge he would have the program ripe for another great coach to take over after he is done. There is no reason to take chances on modmajor coaches who may or may not work out. Say we have Pearl for 6 years and have a final four and the foundation is set. Then you go get Nate Oats who will still be in his 50’s for a decade. If a Brad Stevens type presents himself then great go get him. But even Stevens was proven by national title games/final fours etc. 

[rcbowla 7,291]

And on the 7th day, btb rested.

Hahaha....no chance!

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Can someone get eyes on our new friend? How you feeling today [mention=4929]bourbonhoosier27[/mention] ? Game day - Bloody Mary time - hair of the dog 

Not feeling great. I don’t think I want to go anywhere near alcohol today. Watching the game today may drive me to the bottle though


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[kottke 814]

19 minutes ago, DoctorP said:

Is that second point about Woody? 

No. That was from the coaching carousel thread which is all coaching change discussion, not specifically IU.

[IUFAN1976 4,150]

16 minutes ago, Feathery said:

Great post. Though I think Oearl can make a final four and possibly a national title in 6 years or less. So even if he is a bridge he would have the program ripe for another great coach to take over after he is done. There is no reason to take chances on modmajor coaches who may or may not work out. Say we have Pearl for 6 years and have a final four and the foundation is set. Then you go get Nate Oats who will still be in his 50’s for a decade. If a Brad Stevens type presents himself then great go get him. But even Stevens was proven by national title games/final fours etc. 

Exactly!  Pearl can right the ship and make the job more appealing after he leaves, that to me is the goal.  I don’t think we can afford to take a chance on the Flavor of the Month coach at this point and time.  Once Pearl rights the ship, then we can see if what May does is sustainable and then we can make that move or get someone like Oats.  But this to me makes the most sense

[Tasmanian Devil 1,753]

9 hours ago, bourbonhoosier27 said:

I have been following this website since the Crean days but I’m drunk tonight and finally decided to sign up for an account and post something. I may be wrong, but I do not think I’ve seen so many fans on this website and Twitter ready to move on to a different coaching staff in my young (compared to some on here) life. I think the combination of Woodsons age, lack of recruits signed, and overall roster and game management have made it clear that we have to make a coaching change ASAP. Tbh I’m not sure who my preferred next coach would be but if we got Dusty or Pearl I’d be way more optimistic and excited about the future than I am right now. Again, just drunk and a first time poster.


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Welcome aboard. Whatever you do get those first 10 post the hell out of the way as quick as you can so you can remove that ridiculous moniker attached to newbies.
By the way, what’s your favorite brand of bourbon?

[Dave from Dayton 3,497]

7 minutes ago, bourbonhoosier27 said:

Not feeling great. I don’t think I want to go anywhere near alcohol today. Watching the game today may drive me to the bottle though


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