Alford Bailey Posted January 23, 2024 Posted January 23, 2024 Gotta be a good recruiter at HS level and the portal. I care less about player development. Get talent and a lot of it. Even Mike Davis could make a NC game with a deep talented roster. Crean and Woody have both been pretty decent with talent. We haven’t been able to consistently bring in enough talent since the mid 90s. Ngw7183, Home Jersey and lillurk 2 1 Quote
DLG3 Posted January 23, 2024 Posted January 23, 2024 Gotta be a good recruiter at HS level and the portal. I care less about player development. Get talent and a lot of it. Even Mike Davis could make a NC game with a deep talented roster. Crean and Woody have both been pretty decent with talent. We haven’t been able to consistently bring in enough talent since the mid 90s.I respectfully disagree. There have been years where there is not enough talent, but this year’s team ought to be able to win with the talent on the floor. They aren’t being utilized well and maybe not enough talent at the 1&2, but 3-5 should be able to stack up with anyone. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Home Jersey, thebigweave and tkbbn 3 Quote
DLG3 Posted January 23, 2024 Posted January 23, 2024 That is, I see what you’re saying about Woody getting good talent, I just put more stock into player development than talent or player rankings. Sorry to be confusing. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners tkbbn, thebigweave and Home Jersey 3 Quote
Scotty R Posted January 23, 2024 Posted January 23, 2024 11 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said: Gotta be a good recruiter at HS level and the portal. I care less about player development. Get talent and a lot of it. Even Mike Davis could make a NC game with a deep talented roster. Crean and Woody have both been pretty decent with talent. We haven’t been able to consistently bring in enough talent since the mid 90s. Player development is the key aspect of a good coaching staff. You can have all the talent in the world but if they don't develop as a team you will lose thebigweave and Golfman25 2 Quote
IndyResident16 Posted January 23, 2024 Posted January 23, 2024 14 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said: Gotta be a good recruiter at HS level and the portal. I care less about player development. Get talent and a lot of it. Even Mike Davis could make a NC game with a deep talented roster. Crean and Woody have both been pretty decent with talent. We haven’t been able to consistently bring in enough talent since the mid 90s. Player development and roster construction is an absolute must at this level of basketball. This isn’t the NBA. Home Jersey, thebigweave, Ngw7183 and 1 other 2 2 Quote
Golfman25 Posted January 24, 2024 Posted January 24, 2024 2 hours ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: If you want to watch more rebuilding that’s your choice, but I’m ready for fun IU basketball again. We haven’t had a fun season since 2016. I want a coach who can win immediately. Well I am sure Dolson is at his desk right now thinking --- "well I need to make sure Hoosierfan2017 will be excited about this next hire." :) lillurk, Ngw7183, Chris007 and 1 other 2 2 Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted January 24, 2024 Posted January 24, 2024 Well I am sure Dolson is at his desk right now thinking --- "well I need to make sure Hoosierfan2017 will be excited about this next hire." :)Just find a real winner. If we want to pay top 10 money. Get a top 10 coach and that’s what the fanbase wants. But It’s Dusty May for them and a blind man can see it. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app lillurk, IUrocker and Muskie for three 3 Quote
Hoosierfan2017 Posted January 24, 2024 Posted January 24, 2024 5 minutes ago, Golfman25 said: Well I am sure Dolson is at his desk right now thinking --- "well I need to make sure Hoosierfan2017 will be excited about this next hire." :) Ignoring your obvious attempts to inflame, if Dolson isn’t thinking about how to hire a coach who can win immediately then he might as well shut the program down. Ngw7183 1 Quote
Chris007 Posted January 24, 2024 Posted January 24, 2024 7 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: Ignoring your obvious attempts to inflame, if Dolson isn’t thinking about how to hire a coach who can win immediately then he might as well shut the program down. He’s probably thinking Dusty is winning 30 some games at FAU, so the Big Ten will be a little tougher but he’ll be able to recruit better so he should get 25 wins a season here. Plus he already has same amount of final fours as Pearl. thebigweave and IUrocker 2 Quote
Hoosierfan2017 Posted January 24, 2024 Posted January 24, 2024 1 minute ago, Chris007 said: He’s probably thinking Dusty is winning 30 some games at FAU, so the Big Ten will be a little tougher but he’ll be able to recruit better so he should get 25 wins a season here. Plus he already has made more final fours than Pearl. The bolded isn’t true, but this is probably the level of analysis Dolson operates at. Quote
Chris007 Posted January 24, 2024 Posted January 24, 2024 Just now, Hoosierfan2017 said: The bolded isn’t true, but this is probably the level of analysis Dolson operates at. Sorry same amount. I forgot that one for Pearl. Quote
Golfman25 Posted January 24, 2024 Posted January 24, 2024 9 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: Ignoring your obvious attempts to inflame, if Dolson isn’t thinking about how to hire a coach who can win immediately then he might as well shut the program down. My attempts? Find a little humor man. "Shut the program down." Hyperbole much. The problem isn't winning right away. The problem is consistency. If we wanted up and down seasons, we could have kept Crean -- he gave us plenty of that. thebigweave, Ngw7183, Home Jersey and 1 other 4 Quote
Alford Bailey Posted January 24, 2024 Posted January 24, 2024 1 hour ago, IndyResident16 said: Player development and roster construction is an absolute must at this level of basketball. This isn’t the NBA. NBA coaches know what they will have for 2-3 years. College rosters are built one season at a time now. Ngw7183 1 Quote
Uspshoosier Posted January 24, 2024 Posted January 24, 2024 20 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said: Just find a real winner. If we want to pay top 10 money. Get a top 10 coach and that’s what the fanbase wants. But It’s Dusty May for them and a blind man can see it. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app Whoever it is me, you and everyone else will be here through it all. Spin the wheel and hope the next one works out that makes the fan base happy. Don’t even know who the next coach will be but can guarantee you they will have at least 1 down year and we will all be on here working through it Muskie for three, thebigweave, Chris007 and 1 other 4 Quote
Alford Bailey Posted January 24, 2024 Posted January 24, 2024 1 hour ago, Scotty R said: Player development is the key aspect of a good coaching staff. You can have all the talent in the world but if they don't develop as a team you will lose Talent first. Even RMK had to have talent to win. HoosierTrav, Home Jersey and Ngw7183 3 Quote
Alford Bailey Posted January 24, 2024 Posted January 24, 2024 Too many Trey Galloways and not enough Jalen Hood Schifinos over the last 30 years. Dusty May has a much better chance of being a CAM than a RMK. Ngw7183, Hoosierfan2017 and HoosierTrav 3 Quote
Scotty R Posted January 24, 2024 Posted January 24, 2024 5 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said: Too many Trey Galloways and not enough Jalen Hood Schifinos over the last 30 years. Dusty May has a much better chance of being a CAM than a RMK. Dusty May has a much better chance of being a CAM than a RMK. I think things like this is part of our problem. If everyone is waiting for the next RMK then you will be waiting forever. There are not many coaches who has ever been as good as RMK so in all likelihood we won't ever have that. Not saying we won't ever compete again but you can win without having the next RMK Chris007, str8baller, DLG3 and 3 others 6 Quote
Alford Bailey Posted January 24, 2024 Posted January 24, 2024 3 minutes ago, Scotty R said: Dusty May has a much better chance of being a CAM than a RMK. I think things like this is part of our problem. If everyone is waiting for the next RMK then you will be waiting forever. There are not many coaches who has ever been as good as RMK so in all likelihood we won't ever have that. Not saying we won't ever compete again but you can win without having the next RMK Most fans don’t expect another RMK but they have a fresh memory of mid major flavor of the month. Quote
Chris007 Posted January 24, 2024 Posted January 24, 2024 11 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said: Too many Trey Galloways and not enough Jalen Hood Schifinos over the last 30 years. Dusty May has a much better chance of being a CAM than a RMK. RMK won 3 NC in 11 years, we’re not going to find that in any candidates. Uspshoosier, Home Jersey and thebigweave 3 Quote
Scotty R Posted January 24, 2024 Posted January 24, 2024 2 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said: Most fans don’t expect another RMK but they have a fresh memory of mid major flavor of the month. Like I showed earlier most hires go from mid major to a power 5 conference. There are very few who go power 5 to another power 5 team. Most of the all time coaches went from Mid major to their power conference job. With your criteria IU shouldn't have even looked at RMK thebigweave and Chris007 2 Quote
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