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9 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Idk. He’s cantankerous.  He’s an @$$ at times. He’s a shock jock. But the tough culture he was brought up on is a winning formula.  I think Hurley at UConn right now is a good mix of that mindset.  He’s tough as hell.  Now playing for a coach like that isn’t a dream but having some of those qualities are definitely winning qualities.  I’m not saying he’s a winner as a coach, but I think with the right mix of players, a tough coach is what you want. 
 

Moren has a bit of those qualities as the WBB coach.

See, that is part of it.  When at BGSU he over supervised and controlled his players.  Berated them in public. And that is not all.

In part, because of the above, he could not recruit well against others in the MAC after a while.  He had some similarities in lack of empathy during recruiting and coach that Fife had.  

Sure, one has to have discipline to teach and be a coach.  But, my oh my, getting into politics and lacking an understanding that people have different ways of motivation and needs.  

We need a coaching team and administration that understands how to recruit, win games, train, teach, how to put the team and players in positions to take advantage, fund raise, be flexible in all of that, grow individuals into civic-minded adults, and to not put the university in a bad light doing it...politically or in the media. 

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4 hours ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Dakich can a jerk on Twitter but IU fans know his IUBB tweets are true. That’s the biggest reason why he’s unpopular amongst many fans. 

Strongly disagree.  I like when people can cut to the chase and give insight relative to IUBB.  If someone is thinking different than me, then I want to know why.  I want to know if that opinion is correct.  I don't dislike someone or not listen to them if they speak out of the side of their mouth.  

What I do not appreciate is being shrill.  Saying thing in biased manners that are trying to get attention.  Strongly worded language without the explanation for the concept is just an attempt to incite or excite in order to cause one to act on something.   One example is to just evoke hate.   The action would be for one to listen or repost or get clicks or sell a product.

That is his schtick.  He sells controversy and hate.

That and the fact that he does not care about other people's feelings, apparently.  If he does, he doesn't care as much for it as his own ego or $$$.  Bad form, Dan. 

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10 minutes ago, Dave from Dayton said:

Strongly disagree.  I like when people can cut to the chase and give insight relative to IUBB.  If someone is thinking different than me, then I want to know why.  I want to know if that opinion is correct.  I don't dislike someone or not listen to them if they speak out of the side of their mouths.  

What I do not appreciate is being shrill.  Saying thing in biased manners that are trying to get attention.  Strongly worded language without the explanation for the concept is just an attempt to gain action.  The action would be for one to listen or repost or get clicks or sell a product.

That is his schtick.

That and the fact that he does not care about other people's feelings, apparently.  If he does, he doesn't care as much for it as his own ego or $$$.  Bad form, Dan. 

Dakich hasn’t been wrong about IU basketball since the day he left regardless of his delivery. 

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1 hour ago, Truthhurts said:

I’ve posted this before around these parts, but it’s worth posting again. 
 

Thad’s health was fine by 2021. There was no physical or any thing like that Bs report. (He took the butler job just 11 months later.) The idea was floated to him.  He didn’t want the job. Thus there was never a formal offer. 


Why might someone turn down the job? Two reasons. First, as any honest Indiana fan will admit, the culture of the program is in a bad spot. It has been for a long time.  In light of the resources and fan support, given the (lack of) success over the last 25 years, one can make a compelling case it’s the worst program culture in college hoops. According, any bright candidate who already has a pile of money and doesn’t have the desire to completely overhaul a program may want to steer clear of the head job. Second, and more simply, Thad loves living in Indy and loves Butler.   He was never taking the Indiana job and he’s never going to take the Indiana job. 
 

We need Josh Schertz, and we need to clear out the whole program and anyone in the AD’s office who touches the program.

Amen!!

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1 hour ago, Truthhurts said:

I’ve posted this before around these parts, but it’s worth posting again. 
 

Thad’s health was fine by 2021. There was no physical or any thing like that Bs report. (He took the butler job just 11 months later.) The idea was floated to him.  He didn’t want the job. Thus there was never a formal offer. 


Why might someone turn down the job? Two reasons. First, as any honest Indiana fan will admit, the culture of the program is in a bad spot. It has been for a long time.  In light of the resources and fan support, given the (lack of) success over the last 25 years, one can make a compelling case it’s the worst program culture in college hoops. According, any bright candidate who already has a pile of money and doesn’t have the desire to completely overhaul a program may want to steer clear of the head job. Second, and more simply, Thad loves living in Indy and loves Butler.   He was never taking the Indiana job and he’s never going to take the Indiana job. 
 

We need Josh Schertz, and we need to clear out the whole program and anyone in the AD’s office who touches the program.

Could you be more specific about exactly why Indiana’s basketball culture is the worst, and exactly how you think Josh Schertz is equipped to overcome that?

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My least favorite call in college basketball:  missed shot.  Player A blocks out.  Player B hits player A's hands, cause the ball to go off player A's hands and it goes out of bounds.  Ref does not call a foul on B but gives the ball to team A.

Basically the ref is deciding that the reason the ball went out of bounds was the slap but doesn't feel the slap was strong enough to call a foul.

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Just now, RaceToTheTop said:

My least favorite call in college basketball:  missed shot.  Player A blocks out.  Player B hits player A's hands, cause the ball to go off player A's hands and it goes out of bounds.  Ref does not call a foul on B but gives the ball to team A.

Basically the ref is deciding that the reason the ball went out of bounds was the slap but doesn't feel the slap was strong enough to call a foul.

Mine is the whole block/charge call.

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40 minutes ago, IndyResident16 said:

Dakich hasn’t been wrong about IU basketball since the day he left regardless of his delivery. 

I don’t know, Dakich is probably right about some things.  But a guy who littered his radio show with his politics and then accuses Woodson of being political doesn’t have much credibility.

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1 hour ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

I think it’s more due to politics and he’s vocal about that too. I don’t want to get into that here, but I think IU politics and Dakich politics are diametrically opposed. 

Truth.

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1 hour ago, Kentuckysucks said:

Dakich is an arrogant prick but he does know college basketball and IU about as well as anyone.  Sometimes he hits the mark.

His problem IMO is that when he hits the mark he drones on and on about it but when he misses he won't even acknowledge he was wrong.  And when he gets called out on it, he becomes a fourth graded with a twitter account.

Example:  2017-18 season he was calling the Indiana/Wisky game (believe it was on ESPN).  He accused De'ron Davis of exaggerating his injury in practice to 'get sympathy and attention'.  Davis ended up playing only 10 minutes that game and then after the game they found out that the injury was a torn achilles and he was unable to play the rest of the year.

Dakich was radio silent on being wrong and certainly never apologized to Davis. 

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15 minutes ago, IUHoosierJoe said:

I don’t know, Dakich is probably right about some things.  But a guy who littered his radio show with his politics and then accuses Woodson of being political doesn’t have much credibility.

Like his politics or not, he’s been right about a lot of things and probably is not far from the target with the current situation. This is coming from a guy who absolutely despises Dan Dakich. I cannot stand people who boldly display their narcissism. I feel like he does more to divide the fanbase than unite it. But over the last few years, I catch myself being more and more pissed that he’s right about things. 

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18 minutes ago, IUHoosierJoe said:

I don’t know, Dakich is probably right about some things.  But a guy who littered his radio show with his politics and then accuses Woodson of being political doesn’t have much credibility.

What do “politics” have to do with his assessment of the IU program in its current state? I swear some people dismiss anything he says simply because he leans a different way. He’s spot on about the culture and direction of the program and who he votes for doesn’t change that fact one iota.

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Just now, HoosierTrav said:

Like his politics or not, he’s been right about a lot of things and probably is not far from the target with the current situation. This is coming from a guy who absolutely despises Dan Dakich. I cannot stand people who boldly display their narcissism. I feel like he does more to divide the fanbase than unite it. But over the last few years, I catch myself being more and more pissed that he’s right about things. 

Except he's not really saying things that you hadn't already read on most message boards.  Giving a guy a microphone doesn't make him smarter, just gives him a platform.

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Just now, IndyResident16 said:

What do “politics” have to do with anything about his assessment of the IU program in its current state? I swear some people dismiss anything he says simply because he leans a different way. He’s spot on about the culture and direction of the program and who he votes for doesn’t change that fact one iota.

My point is the hypocrisy, not which side of the fence he is on politically.

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4 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Except he's not really saying things that you hadn't already read on most message boards.  Giving a guy a microphone doesn't make him smarter, just gives him a platform.

Most things you read on a message board parrot what Dakich has been saying for the last 10-15 years that people are now just catching on. IU doesn’t care about having a winning basketball program and Dakich has been on this forefront for quite some time.

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2 minutes ago, IndyResident16 said:

What do “politics” have to do with his assessment of the IU program in its current state? I swear some people dismiss anything he says simply because he leans a different way. He’s spot on about the culture and direction of the program and who he votes for doesn’t change that fact one iota.

And some people listen to him and think he is correct more than he actually is because they agree with his politics.  C'est la vie.

But in terms of culture of the program, exactly what has he said that hasn't been said a thousand times on this site?  His message isn't unique, period.

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The way UM won a national title, so OSU went out and spent upwards of $13M on building the best roster and staff they could possibly find... Seems like Hoosiers can only dream of our administration responding in a similar fashion. PU is at the top of the conference and we are not... and the admin does not care. We may catch lightning in a bottle with the next hire (more likely won't). But it's so disheartening to be a fan of a program/product that you know is being undermined/deprioritized from the top. How are you supposed to feel anything but apathy toward that kind of environment? Yesterday was definitely a low point in my time as a fan... and I've had plenty of lows over the years with IU Basketball. It's just getting tougher to believe better days are ahead.

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1 minute ago, IndyResident16 said:

Most things you read on a message board parrot what Dakich has been saying for the last 10-15 years that people are now just catching on. IU doesn’t care about having a winning basketball program and Dakich has been on this forefront for quite some time.

LOL.  Yeah, posters haven't been littering IU message boards with those thoughts the last 10 to 15 years.  Have a good day.

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