Coach Curt Cignetti to INDIANA

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14 minutes ago, NashvilleHoosier said:

My friend, Tom Allen had to take a timeout just last season, on the road at Nebraska, before a single second ran off the clock. Got the ball first, touch back on the kick off, so much confusion before even running a play he had to burn a timeout. This was after talking during the week about getting better starts to games. The most inconceivable of weird timeouts. No matter how weird Coach Cig's TOs have been during his JMU tenure, I don't need to know any details to be confident they won't sniff the weirdness of a Tom Allen timeout.

LOL...oof, that's a face-palm right there Coach Allen....

Here is what you'll see sometimes - yourself yelling at the TV - "call a timeout. why no timeout? CALL A TIMEOUT!!"....

7 seconds later from the announcers...."coach Cignetti has called a timeout"

Again - I'm not trying to run the guy ragged, but you'll see "too cute" - against NDSU in the championship we are running it on them. i mean, all over them...so he abandons it and switches to pass happy (in *advance* of them adjusting...). We lost.

 

Edited December 12, 2023 by bcp_jmu

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@bcp_jmu welcome to btb and hope you stick around for awhile.  Really appreciate the amount of info you've brought to the board in just a few posts.  

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2 hours ago, bcp_jmu said:

LOL...oof, that's a face-palm right there Coach Allen....

Here is what you'll see sometimes - yourself yelling at the TV - "call a timeout. why no timeout? CALL A TIMEOUT!!"....

7 seconds later from the announcers...."coach Cignetti has called a timeout"

Again - I'm not trying to run the guy ragged, but you'll see "too cute" - against NDSU in the championship we are running it on them. i mean, all over them...so he abandons it and switches to pass happy (in *advance* of them adjusting...). We lost.

 

"in the national championship" 

(Thumbs up) 

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3 hours ago, bcp_jmu said:

LOL...oof, that's a face-palm right there Coach Allen....

Here is what you'll see sometimes - yourself yelling at the TV - "call a timeout. why no timeout? CALL A TIMEOUT!!"....

7 seconds later from the announcers...."coach Cignetti has called a timeout"

Again - I'm not trying to run the guy ragged, but you'll see "too cute" - against NDSU in the championship we are running it on them. i mean, all over them...so he abandons it and switches to pass happy (in *advance* of them adjusting...). We lost.

 

The only thing IU fans are reading from this is the word ‘championship’…..we are hoping that our complaints get to the point where the main complaint is what happened in a game against top teams.

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20 hours ago, bcp_jmu said:

Hey Hoosier fans - I come in peace!

Glad to see the excitement over this hire - mixed feelings at JMU, but cannot deny that the man kept the winning going and took us through an incredible transition to FBS. CC has some serious swagger - the only real knock on him is that sometimes BIG moments scramble his brains a little (very weird TOs, clock management, and play calling on rare occasions). The phrase "don't get too cute" was thrown around his first couple years...if you know what I mean. The guy is world class at recruiting, eyeing talent, and getting other coaches on board. 

This interview that someone posted a few pages back is pretty spot on - good luck this year...we'll sorta be rooting for you.

https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/qa-on-cu...orts-news/

 

 

Thanks for sharing.  Questions, what was your experience watching him coach Elon against your Dukes? Do you know if he cleaned house at Elon or if he won with the same players that were already there? And how surprised were you to see the quick turnaround with that school?

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22 minutes ago, Lebowski said:

Thanks for sharing.  Questions, what was your experience watching him coach Elon against your Dukes? Do you know if he cleaned house at Elon or if he won with the same players that were already there? And how surprised were you to see the quick turnaround with that school?

Thanks for the great question - Elon was a dog for a long time...so didn't follow them closely - but we knew by halftime that we were going to lose. CC had clearly out-thought and out-prepped our coach for that game...went right after our weaknesses and Elon played "up" that day...probably a big part of why we hired him.

If memory serves me....Elon already had a beast of an RB that year, probably should have been FBS but this was prior to the "free for all where IU keeps taking JMU recruits" days ... ;)

Edited December 13, 2023 by bcp_jmu

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1 minute ago, bcp_jmu said:

Thanks for the great question - Elon was a dog for a long time...so didn't follow them closely - but we knew by halftime that we were going to lose. CC had clearly out-thought and out-prepped our coach for that game...went right after our weaknesses and Elon played "up" that day...probably a big part of why we hired him.

For some of the things that might not be perfect about his coaching that you and others have mentioned, he does bring a lot of things that IU has been missing. Game prep is certainly one of them, so having a coach that does that well will be welcome. Same with player development, which is key if IU to ever turn it around since we're not going to be landing tons of talent any time soon.

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I feel Coach Cignetti's approach to the development of "his" players and the team is similar to boot camp and military.

He wants to break them down, then teach, train, and develop. JMO

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37 minutes ago, Artie86 said:

I feel Coach Cignetti's approach to the development of "his" players and the team is similar to boot camp and military.

He wants to break them down, then teach, train, and develop. JMO

I'd say you're probably right on this.....it gets back to "the standard" and "the process".....earlier we discussed being player-friendly - I know that Cig removed some of the BS / barriers for student athletes (an incredibly tough thing to do both successfully!). For example - bring the tutors closer to the students (why trudge across campus 4 times?)....rearrange the schedule so they can sleep, focus, etc.

If your football culture didn't study film - that's about to change. Was always impressed when players would say post-game "oh yes, we saw that on film and we weren't surprised when they did x,y,z"

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7 minutes ago, bcp_jmu said:

I'd say you're probably right on this.....it gets back to "the standard" and "the process".....earlier we discussed being player-friendly - I know that Cig removed some of the BS / barriers for student athletes (an incredibly tough thing to do both successfully!). For example - bring the tutors closer to the students (why trudge across campus 4 times?)....rearrange the schedule so they can sleep, focus, etc.

On the flip side, this is the type of thing already built in here that will make Cig's life easier too. Just going off of your example - and I understand that he made this happen already at JMU - but IU's student-athlete academic center is amazing, a 30-second walk through the stadium from position meeting rooms, and staffed with some wonderful people. IU isn't toward the top in the B1G/P5 for a lot of logistical things like this, but simply coming up to this level will give him the types of resources he's never had as a head coach. I'm really excited to see him maximize them.

(And none of that is to say that JMU's facilities/resources are anything to scoff at)

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8 minutes ago, bcp_jmu said:

If your football culture didn't study film - that's about to change. Was always impressed when players would say post-game "oh yes, we saw that on film and we weren't surprised when they did x,y,z"

That's good to hear.  Especially as it relates to opponents attempting (aka completing) big plays against our D, I would describe our past culture as one of "surprise!"  :)

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32 minutes ago, triple said:

That's good to hear.  Especially as it relates to opponents attempting (aka completing) big plays against our D, I would describe our past culture as one of "surprise!"  :)

I think that was the secondary game plan, receivers surprised at being so open that they drop it.

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57 minutes ago, bcp_jmu said:

Thanks for the great question - Elon was a dog for a long time...so didn't follow them closely - but we knew by halftime that we were going to lose. CC had clearly out-thought and out-prepped our coach for that game...went right after our weaknesses and Elon played "up" that day...probably a big part of why we hired him.

If memory serves me....Elon already had a beast of an RB that year, probably should have been FBS but this was prior to the "free for all where IU keeps taking JMU recruits" days ... ;)

Appreciate your response here. I asked the question because I wanted my IUFB brethren try to understand just how special this coach is. He's the guy I wanted before we parted ways with the coach he's replacing. IUFB is probably one of the worst programs in college football history. So we typically have low expectation. Most of us are excited to finish .500, because it's so rare. All of us have a desire of expectations that you have for your Dukes football. My hope is that he can create something special in Btown. Time will tell and IUFB is what it is. 

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https://247sports.com/college/indiana/Article/indiana-football-officially-announces-new-coaching-staff-under-curt-cignetti-223006457/?utm_source=247Sports%20Newsletter&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_campaign=231213_113531_IndianaHoosiers&utm_content=Link&eid=98e573b39e4c9d14d582f84a666b8f1b016daa92e90f91dbbce806cfa0461e13

Full staff. We've mentioned all of them in this thread already at different points but this officially lists them all in one place.

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https://247sports.com/Article/jah-jah-boyd-indiana-visit-jmu-decommit-football-recruiting-222941549/Amp/

Didn't see a thread for this. Jah Jah Boyd visited, former JMU commit. Days it's between us and Pitt.

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New recruiting tool for us.

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Details on Cignetti's contract.

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/indiana/2023/12/13/indiana-football-curt-cignetti-contract-27-million-iu-six-seasons/71911438007/

6 years/$27m guaranteed. Heavily incentives. Buyout drops by 3 mil each year on Dec 1, it'd be 20m for 2024.

Maybe Dolson learned a little from Allen’s agent taking behind the woodshed.

 

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On 12/12/2023 at 3:39 PM, bcp_jmu said:

LOL...oof, that's a face-palm right there Coach Allen....

Here is what you'll see sometimes - yourself yelling at the TV - "call a timeout. why no timeout? CALL A TIMEOUT!!"....

7 seconds later from the announcers...."coach Cignetti has called a timeout"

Again - I'm not trying to run the guy ragged, but you'll see "too cute" - against NDSU in the championship we are running it on them. i mean, all over them...so he abandons it and switches to pass happy (in *advance* of them adjusting...). We lost.

 

At least it happened in the FCS Championship game against a titan like North Dakota State and not against a MAC school that regularly loses 10 games like Akron. 

You don't know a bad timeout until you saw the worst of Tom Allen. 

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Increasing the assistant pool by $500k per bowl appearance is an awesome incentive. That’ll do wonders for replacing a hot-named coordinator that we didn’t account for in the past. 

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1 hour ago, JSHoosier said:

Details on Cignetti's contract.

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/indiana/2023/12/13/indiana-football-curt-cignetti-contract-27-million-iu-six-seasons/71911438007/

6 years/$27m guaranteed. Heavily incentives. Buyout drops by 3 mil each year on Dec 1, it'd be 20m for 2024.

Maybe Dolson learned a little from Allen’s agent taking behind the woodshed.

 

Interesting I didn’t see the word adidas anywhere… could this mean we’re switching up our sponsorship?