Fire Scott Dolson

[Napleshoosier]

2 hours ago, str8baller said:

FWIW, Knight and Yeagly were hired by Ryan I think, who is/was? considered a good president.  Pretty sure Doc Councilman was here when they got here. But at one point IU was something of an example of good leadership. Even Mallory was pretty good, all things considered.  
 

People used to point Brand as the turning point. I don’t know if that’s just because he fired Knight or if he really sucked. But it wasn’t always this way. 

If I knew where he was buried I’d piss on his grave!

[AZ Hoosier]

2 hours ago, str8baller said:

FWIW, Knight and Yeagly were hired by Ryan I think, who is/was? considered a good president.  Pretty sure Doc Councilman was here when they got here. But at one point IU was something of an example of good leadership. Even Mallory was pretty good, all things considered.  
 

People used to point Brand as the turning point. I don’t know if that’s just because he fired Knight or if he really sucked. But it wasn’t always this way. 

Murray Sperber was a key player. He could not stand that anything in the athletics department was more well known and drew more attention than his English class.

Sperber was involved in the events in 2000 surrounding the firing of Indiana University men's basketball coach, Bob Knight. Sperber criticized the university's handling of the situation and incurred the wrath of many of Knight's fans. As a result, he had to take a leave-of-absence from the university. He later returned but, in 2004, retired from Indiana University, and left the state of Indiana.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murray_Sperber

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

24 minutes ago, Napleshoosier said:

If I knew where he was buried I’d piss on his grave!

You're out of luck.  He was burned at the stake probably so people like you couldn't piss on his grave.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/49471331/myles-neil-brand

[AZ Hoosier]

4 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

You're out of luck.  He was burned at the stake probably so people like you couldn't piss on his grave.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/49471331/myles-neil-brand

maybe as a witch?

[Lebowski]

@Stuhoo can we move this pish out of the football section please. Thanks. 

[str8baller]

4 minutes ago, Lebowski said:

@Stuhoo can we move this pish out of the football section please. Thanks. 

I kind of wondered why it was in the football section. It being on the basketball board feels like an ominous sign. Lol…

[Hovadipo]

10 minutes ago, str8baller said:

I kind of wondered why it was in the football section. It being on the basketball board feels like an ominous sign. Lol…

The original post makes it make some sense and also shows how far we've come in 2 short years. But it definitely no longer belongs in the football section.

[Stuhoo]

For me? 

No matter what section this topic is in, any discussion of the potential of firing Scott Dolson might be the most ridiculous take imaginable. Why?

• Cignetti
• Moren
• Aird
• Yeagley
• Fundraising

Even if Devries doesn't succeed (I generally expect he will) the University is far more likely to build a statue for Dolson than ever remotely consider firing him. He has been a major success as AD IMO.

I think that this thread should be buried, even after we occasionally lose a hoops game that we arguably shouldn't. But deleting a thread full of opinions that I disagree with is not my place, so carry on. I am glad it's now in the hoops forum, because that undoubtedly is where the fanbase's collective undies are most likely to get into an overreactive knot.

[Aaron]

This thread is a microcosm of our massive issue as a fan base. Any other fan base would not even utter such a thought when they get elite football and understand that is the driver of athletics.

We have far to many fans who have decided IU basketball is only team they can support and all others IU teams are irrelevant while others refuse to support any IU squad that is outside top-5. We will never sustain success anywhere with this attitude and will continue to have 3-5 yr up cycles across every sport followed by not sustaining winning.

Its awful early to be down on DeVries already (although I get the frustration here). However, until our so-called fans decide IU sports is more than just men's basketball and it is OK to support good non-elite teams in other sports we will not sustain healthy success an an athletic department. 

Supporting the other 23 sports is a necessity (especially football) or no sport will succeed including men's basketball as everyone seems to want. To not sell out volleyball for NCAA Tournament in tiny stadium and have no interest in sport by many, losing thousands of season ticket holders over a 20-13 NCAA year in women's basketball, amongst other things will never lead to success here.

Everyone is entitled to support what they want, but just realize that 'basketball is only important sport' attitude will never lead to success anywhere consistently at IU including in basketball. Just wait till we have our first 8 win football season next year and lose thousands of season ticket holders. If attitude doesn't change this will happen.

 

[southsidehoosier]

2 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

For me? 

No matter what section this topic is in, any discussion of the potential of firing Scott Dolson might be the most ridiculous take imaginable. Why?

• Cignetti
• Moren
• Aird
• Yeagley

Even if Devries doesn't succeed (I generally expect he will) the University is far more likely to build a statue for Dolson than ever remotely consider firing him. He has been a major success as AD IMO.

I think that this thread should be buried, even after we occasionally lose a hoops game that we arguably shouldn't. But deleting a thread full of opinions that I disagree with is not my place, so carry on. I am glad it's now in the hoops forum, because that undoubtedly is where the fanbase's collective undies is most likely to get into an overreactive knot.

I’d add Escobedo as he’s had IU ranked in the top 25 in the deepest conference for wrestling 

[TheWatShot]

21 minutes ago, Aaron said:

We have far to many fans who have decided IU basketball is only team they can support and all others IU teams are irrelevant while others refuse to support any IU squad that is outside top-5.

 

Unfortunately, this has been a problem for a long time. But I think that contingent is getting smaller every year, for obvious reasons. 

[Napleshoosier]

1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

For me? 

No matter what section this topic is in, any discussion of the potential of firing Scott Dolson might be the most ridiculous take imaginable. Why?

• Cignetti
• Moren
• Aird
• Yeagley
• Fundraising

Even if Devries doesn't succeed (I generally expect he will) the University is far more likely to build a statue for Dolson than ever remotely consider firing him. He has been a major success as AD IMO.

I think that this thread should be buried, even after we occasionally lose a hoops game that we arguably shouldn't. But deleting a thread full of opinions that I disagree with is not my place, so carry on. I am glad it's now in the hoops forum, because that undoubtedly is where the fanbase's collective undies is most likely to get into an overreactive knot.

Can we move it to the rugby thread?

[str8baller]

1 hour ago, Aaron said:

However, until our so-called fans decide IU sports is more than just men's basketball and it is OK to support good non-elite teams in other sports we will not sustain healthy success an an athletic department. 

I think you have the cart in front of the horse

[Stuhoo]

4 hours ago, Napleshoosier said:

Can we move it to the rugby thread?

We DO have an IU Rugby thread.

Hmmmmmm....