2023-24 IUBB ROSTER

[HoosierHoopster 8,660]

1 hour ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

My wish list today is:

1. Knecht 

2. Ledlum-i'm trying to sell myself on him a little more but i can see it.

3. A guard that can PG if necessary.  (I have a hard time see significant minutes for this spot if we get 1 and 2)

 

I think Gallo, Banks, Gunn should see good minutes.  See if Gunn or Banks can earn more.  Gallo should likely get 20+ as he can play 1,2,3 and if shooting stays hot he needs to play.  

Where I am on Banks and Gunn is we really don't know at this point. Will they be developed and ready as sophs to play good minutes, on a team that we think is trying to develop its roster into a contending team? Just haven't seen enough of either to know at this point imo.

[fwgreenway 520]

1 hour ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

 

3. A guard that can PG if necessary.  (I have a hard time see significant minutes for this spot if we get 1 and 2) 

Do you or anyone think the staff would look for someone like a El Ellis to help with PG or more players on the floor that can get to the rim and dish?

[Hardwood83 5,081]

2 hours ago, btownqb said:

I asked why @Hardwood83 thinks the coaching staff doesn't agree. I can see what DeLoach does well. Is there something @Hardwood83 has heard on Peegs/other sources/does he KNOW what he stated here to be true? I was asking if HE knew MORE. 

I have ZERO intel and didn't mean to imply I did. My point was, as of now he's still got a visit scheduled a few days from now. I would hope they wouldn't waste everyone's time & money to host him unless they genuinely wanted him.  

[SamIam 733]

We may be out on Knecht but it looks like we are still in a good spot for Ledlum. 

I'm really interested in the rotation next year and I'm bored right now so I am going to try and guess at the rotation. Feel free to roast my thoughts here.  Ledlum is a 3/4 and I think he could probably shoot around 35% in our offense since our players tend to get open 3s. But his best skill is being long and athletic enough to play a small four and attack closeouts of smaller, less athletic 4's. Hopefully we get another wing to reduce the minutes he sees at the 3. I see our big rotation of MR, Ledlum, Ware, and Sparks with MR splitting time between 4/5, Ware playing less minutes than we expect due to general fatigue and foul trouble, Ledlum sliding down to the 4 for lineups with MR and Ware at the 5, and Sparks playing spot minutes at the five (he's too slow to play the 4 but energy minutes at the five is perfect for him).

X and Gallo will start. We've had a lot of discussions on Gallo but every year he gets himself on the floor because he makes it hard for the coaches not to play him. Watching some of our games back this year I've realized how many of Gallo's defensive lapses were due to him trying to help off his man to help JHS contain the ball handler.  I think with X back those lapses more or less disappear and thats one of the best defensive backcourts in the B1G. People talk a lot about the work he put in to be a good shooter but we have to remember that he had surgery in the offseason and he still improved his 3PT% from 21 to 46(!!!)%. I'm excited to see what he can do with a full offseason to work.

So that leaves the rotation as follows (with their minutes in parenthesis):

PG: X (32), Cupps (8)

SG: Gallo (28), Gunn (6), Leal/Newton (6)

SF: Ledlum (15), Gunn (15), Banks (10)

PF: MR (25), Ledlum (13), Banks (2)

C: Ware (28), MR (7), Sparks (5) 

The shooting of this lineup worries me. Would love to nab a shooter at the three and bump Ledlum into being a sixth man, which is a role I think he would be best in.

[CSP 12,139]

I would put a solid amount of money on the fact that MR is not going to avg 32mpg, Sparks will avg more than 5mpg, Gunn won't avg anything close to 20mpg when it matters, and Banks plays more than Gunn per game. 

[WayneFleekHoosier 51,672]

So, what’s with the situation with us being “out” on Knecht?  Is it the Oregon visit or something else I missed?

[rcbowla 8,281]

So, what’s with the situation with us being “out” on Knecht?  Is it the Oregon visit or something else I missed?

CB put in for Oregon today

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[CSP 12,139]

Just now, WayneFleekHoosier said:

So, what’s with the situation with us being “out” on Knecht?  Is it the Oregon visit or something else I missed?

There were, I think two predictions, for Dalton Knecht to Oregon.  

[SamIam 733]

18 minutes ago, btownqb said:

I would put a solid amount of money on the fact that MR is not going to avg 32mpg, Sparks will avg more than 5mpg, Gunn won't avg anything close to 20mpg when it matters, and Banks plays more than Gunn per game. 

All fair. I thought MR really improved in terms of moving his feet and not fouling as the season went on so I am confident in him playing heavy minutes. As for Banks and Gunn its hard to project their PT hopefully we get another transfer that takes the bulk of those minutes.

[CSP 12,139]

1 minute ago, SamIam said:

All fair. I thought MR really improved in terms of moving his feet and not fouling as the season went on so I am confident in him playing heavy minutes. As for Banks and Gunn its hard to project their PT hopefully we get another transfer that takes the bulk of those minutes.

He isn't going to avg 32mpg.... more like 24-ish. I love Malik, this opinion has nothing to do with my thoughts on his play. Malik 24, Sparks 13--- that is way closer to what their min distribution will be than 32 and 5. 

I agree, I would like another wing transfer, as well. But, predicting Gunn to play 20+mpg.... crazy to me. I think CJ has quite a ways to go on both ends of the court. 

[WayneFleekHoosier 51,672]

If Ledlum is questionable and Knecht is off the board it makes ya wonder what Ya is cooking with.  Seems like 2 recruits he alluded to.  One very soon and the other soon.  
 

interesting. Knecht would be a bummer. I fell for his game big, he’s legit.  

[JSHoosier 22,243]

9 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

If Ledlum is questionable and Knecht is off the board it makes ya wonder what Ya is cooking with.  Seems like 2 recruits he alluded to.  One very soon and the other soon.  
 

interesting. Knecht would be a bummer. I fell for his game big, he’s legit.  

We need a scorer, Knecht was option 1 for me.

[WayneFleekHoosier 51,672]

1 hour ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

If Ledlum is questionable and Knecht is off the board it makes ya wonder what Ya is cooking with.  Seems like 2 recruits he alluded to.  One very soon and the other soon.  
 

interesting. Knecht would be a bummer. I fell for his game big, he’s legit.  

re-read my post and I'm impressed with my unintentional "makes ya wonder what Ya" quip.  lol

[Stuhoo 90,321]

Still three spots open.

We will fill at least two of them.

For those analyzing the potential liabilities and gaps in our current roster? For better or worse, this is not our final roster.

[Chris007 62,614]

On 4/12/2023 at 1:18 PM, WayneFleekHoosier said:

If Ledlum is questionable and Knecht is off the board it makes ya wonder what Ya is cooking with.  Seems like 2 recruits he alluded to.  One very soon and the other soon.  
 

interesting. Knecht would be a bummer. I fell for his game big, he’s legit.  

I thought one was Ledlum for sure he was talking about, But maybe not

[str8baller 7,703]

3 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

For those analyzing the potential liabilities and gaps in our current roster? For better or worse, this is not our final roster.

You can pretty much look at what we have and go from there. We need a couple shooters and likely another ballhandler.   
 

If the guys coming in don’t bring that, we’ll have a good handle on our liabilities. The biggest question mark will be how they fit defensively. XJ, Galloway, Banks (lets assume he progresses nicely), reneau, and Ware *could* be similar to that first woody team that struggled to score but clamped down defensively. That’s probably a tourney team.  But if they can’t defend….whoa boy… 

[Stuhoo 90,321]

21 minutes ago, str8baller said:

You can pretty much look at what we have and go from there. We need a couple shooters and likely another ballhandler.   
 

If the guys coming in don’t bring that, we’ll have a good handle on our liabilities. The biggest question mark will be how they fit defensively. XJ, Galloway, Banks (lets assume he progresses nicely), reneau, and Ware *could* be similar to that first woody team that struggled to score but clamped down defensively. That’s probably a tourney team.  But if they can’t defend….whoa boy… 

What do we need?

[Hardwood83 5,081]

21 minutes ago, str8baller said:

You can pretty much look at what we have and go from there. We need a couple shooters and likely another ballhandler.   
 

If the guys coming in don’t bring that, we’ll have a good handle on our liabilities. The biggest question mark will be how they fit defensively. XJ, Galloway, Banks (lets assume he progresses nicely), reneau, and Ware *could* be similar to that first woody team that struggled to score but clamped down defensively. That’s probably a tourney team.  But if they can’t defend….whoa boy… 

This is mostly how I see it too- add a 15-16ppg wing scorer and that takes this team from "ehhhh" to "mmmmm" IMO. 

Add a little more dynamic 2 guard AND that wing, allowing Galloway to be 6th man? Now I think that is a top 3 conference team. 

 

[bigrod 3,204]

42 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

What do we need?

Who doesn't want some really good wings? They make everything better...

[Stuhoo 90,321]

UPDATED

Guards 

1. X Johnson
2. A Leal
3. T Galloway
4. G Cupps

Wings

1. K Banks
2. CJ Gunn
3. J Newton

Posts/Bigs

1. M Reneau
2. Kel’el Ware
3. P. Sparks
4. A Walker