IUBB vs Iowa - Tuesday, 2/28/23 @ 7:00 on ESPN2

[Whoozhers 3,781]

Optimism isn’t rational at this point but….. it’s all we got.

Get it together HOOSIERS and never let a debacle like last night happen again.

Crush the Wolverines!!

[Alford Bailey 13,228]

Awesome! Just sat down at BDubs for lunch and guess what is replaying ? 

[JSHoosier 22,211]

1 minute ago, Alford Bailey said:

Awesome! Just sat down at BDubs for lunch and guess what is replaying ? 

Glutton for punishment, eh?

[Rico 3,555]

15 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

Nobody got injured that we know of so maybe that is the bright side

I suppose if there is a straw to grab ahold of that would be it.  Doesn't make me feel any better though.

[JSHoosier 22,211]

19 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I think I would be the opposite. Point out every single mistake on the game tape. Film doesn’t lie. Maybe have a hard practice but not sure what that does other than make us more tired. But definitely make them watch that embarrassing performance a couple times.

Definitely go through the tape.  I'd run box out drills until they were sick too.

[HoosierFan1994 5,344]

Last night was bad. It makes things so much more difficult for a team that worked so hard to put themselves in a good spot. Can probably kiss a double bye away and a 3 seed. However, you would have thought it was the 6-25 season when I logged on last night to this site.

Don't get me wrong, I'm mad they blew this opportunity and it's by far the worst loss of the season. Big picture...starting with the home game against Purdue I would have been thrilled with going 5-3 in our last 8 games. 7 of the 8 games IU played a tournament team. Michigan is a bubble team. Now, if they come out flat against Michigan and get bounced in the Big Ten Tournament on Thursday/Friday we have reason to be upset. But this season isn't over. I want to see how these guys respond. IMO they're in a similar position they were in right after the Penn State game. They responded pretty well. 

One last thing..I don't understand the worry yet over next year. It sucks to lose Trayce and probably Jalen. If IU's roster in May has Malik/Trey as our best players, we can worry. However, Mike Woodson isn't dumb. He knows the second this season ends he has to hit the portal. If he doesn't, he deserves to lose his job. I wouldn't be surprised if he has an idea of guys who may want to transfer to IU. Everyone just wait and see what happens. 

That being said, I feel like Woodson has to win at least couple of games in the tournament for this season to feel like it was a success. Indiana has one of the best all-time players with a legit one and done freshman. Not saying Coach Woodson won't be able to field another good team, but when you have that combo you need to do something with it. 

[Alford Bailey 13,228]

9 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

Glutton for punishment, eh?

Trying to watch hockey….

[JSHoosier 22,211]

Is it just me or does it seem like Iowa has been a thorn in our side longer than Wisconsin has?

[Rico 3,555]

15 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

Trying to watch hockey….

[LIHoosier 27,735]

Is it just me or does it seem like Iowa has been a thorn in our side longer than Wisconsin has?

It's probably cuz we've only played at the Call Center once in the last 3-4 years.

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[bigrod 3,182]

1 hour ago, HoosierFan1994 said:

Last night was bad. It makes things so much more difficult for a team that worked so hard to put themselves in a good spot. Can probably kiss a double bye away and a 3 seed. However, you would have thought it was the 6-25 season when I logged on last night to this site.

Don't get me wrong, I'm mad they blew this opportunity and it's by far the worst loss of the season. Big picture...starting with the home game against Purdue I would have been thrilled with going 5-3 in our last 8 games. 7 of the 8 games IU played a tournament team. Michigan is a bubble team. Now, if they come out flat against Michigan and get bounced in the Big Ten Tournament on Thursday/Friday we have reason to be upset. But this season isn't over. I want to see how these guys respond. IMO they're in a similar position they were in right after the Penn State game. They responded pretty well. 

One last thing..I don't understand the worry yet over next year. It sucks to lose Trayce and probably Jalen. If IU's roster in May has Malik/Trey as our best players, we can worry. However, Mike Woodson isn't dumb. He knows the second this season ends he has to hit the portal. If he doesn't, he deserves to lose his job. I wouldn't be surprised if he has an idea of guys who may want to transfer to IU. Everyone just wait and see what happens. 

That being said, I feel like Woodson has to win at least couple of games in the tournament for this season to feel like it was a success. Indiana has one of the best all-time players with a legit one and done freshman. Not saying Coach Woodson won't be able to field another good team, but when you have that combo you need to do something with it. 

In my opinion it's the way it happened and the time of the year it happened. This team had a lot to play for and could have used the PU game as a surge to finish the season. Instead, it looked like one of the games where no one seemed interested in doing any more than the bare minimum. Everyone TALKED about not letting the Purdue game be a waste and finishing strong, but it turned out to be just talk. Why follow up one of your best games with the worst?

If you're going to advance in a tournament, by definition, you have to be able to handle success. Mental>physical, as some other coach used to say.

[HoosierHoopster 8,312]

13 minutes ago, bigrod said:

In my opinion it's the way it happened and the time of the year it happened. This team had a lot to play for and could have used the PU game as a surge to finish the season. Instead, it looked like one of the games where no one seemed interested in doing any more than the bare minimum. Everyone TALKED about not letting the Purdue game be a waste and finishing strong, but it turned out to be just talk. Why follow up one of your best games with the worst?

If you're going to advance in a tournament, by definition, you have to be able to handle success. Mental>physical, as some other coach used to say.

Agree, they played a BS game as Woodson commented.

However, also agree with HoosierFan1994 on this one. Pathetic showing, but at the end of the day it's one game after we swept PU, and are at least in the market for a 3-4 seed in the tourney. 

I have some issues with the lineups and how they're played, but the team and staff have shown they can play with and defeat the best B1G teams, as well as teams like Xavier. 

The UM game is now a lot bigger -- it's a mindset game, and one we should win. I think we all know Woodson will be laying into the guys heading into that game, and that we should expect to see them come out with a lot more fight, and focus. Think we will.

[Alford Bailey 13,228]

Indy Star had a nice article on Perkins. Not much high major interest til Iowa came in late.

[HoosierFan1994 5,344]

2 hours ago, bigrod said:

In my opinion it's the way it happened and the time of the year it happened. This team had a lot to play for and could have used the PU game as a surge to finish the season. Instead, it looked like one of the games where no one seemed interested in doing any more than the bare minimum. Everyone TALKED about not letting the Purdue game be a waste and finishing strong, but it turned out to be just talk. Why follow up one of your best games with the worst?

If you're going to advance in a tournament, by definition, you have to be able to handle success. Mental>physical, as some other coach used to say.

I 100% understand looking at it from this lens. It was unacceptable. I'm most upset that A) we probably have to play another B1G Tournament game and B) We may not get to play close to home because we fell on the S-Curve because of this loss. However, this team can most certainly rebound. I know they can. 

[HoosierFan1994 5,344]

2 hours ago, HoosierHoopster said:

Agree, they played a BS game as Woodson commented.

However, also agree with HoosierFan1994 on this one. Pathetic showing, but at the end of the day it's one game after we swept PU, and are at least in the market for a 3-4 seed in the tourney. 

I have some issues with the lineups and how they're played, but the team and staff have shown they can play with and defeat the best B1G teams, as well as teams like Xavier. 

The UM game is now a lot bigger -- it's a mindset game, and one we should win. I think we all know Woodson will be laying into the guys heading into that game, and that we should expect to see them come out with a lot more fight, and focus. Think we will.

For the first part that's all I was saying. For sure practice needs to be uncomfortable this week. However, move on and get ready for Michigan and the tournament. Let's say the Hoosiers win Sunday and win a couple of games in the Big Ten Tournament (make it to Saturday/Sunday) I'll be pleased and feel better.

For the second part IU just has no depth outside of Malik. I feel like I pick on him but Bates just gives them nothing at all and he's supposed to be the 6th man. I'm curious as to what his plus/minus is in the last 8 games. 

[Stuhoo 89,503]

32 minutes ago, HoosierFan1994 said:

For the first part that's all I was saying. For sure practice needs to be uncomfortable this week. However, move on and get ready for Michigan and the tournament. Let's say the Hoosiers win Sunday and win a couple of games in the Big Ten Tournament (make it to Saturday/Sunday) I'll be pleased and feel better.

For the second part IU just has no depth outside of Malik. I feel like I pick on him but Bates just gives them nothing at all and he's supposed to be the 6th man. I'm curious as to what his plus/minus is in the last 8 games. 

For March Madness we should have real depth - Malik and whoever doesn't start between Trey Galloway and Xavier Johnson.

• 15-20 minutes per game for Malik; 35 minutes per game for Trayce 25-ish for Race.
• 120 minutes per game between JHS, X,  Miller, and Trey = 30 minutes per player.

 

[Banksyrules 5,342]

Guys some of you know the details of the game better than I but I have question. Why do we over play at the post? Shouldn't we rely on TJD and Race to handle one on one matchups? just feels we over hedge and it just leads to a lot of open threes and that's when it gets nuts. 

[str8baller 7,476]

31 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Xavier Johnson.

Are we sure he’s coming back? At this point,  I just assume he isn’t or will give us very little if he does. At most he has about ten days to round into shape before the tourney.

[str8baller 7,476]

11 minutes ago, Banksyrules said:

Guys some of you know the details of the game better than I but I have question. Why do we over play at the post? Shouldn't we rely on TJD and Race to handle one on one matchups? just feels we over hedge and it just leads to a lot of open threes and that's when it gets nuts. 

Good question. A lot of our bad defensive possessions happen because of that.   
 

I have no idea what they’re doing, but my best guess is they’re running a defense that only calls for situational doubling of the post and our guys make too many mental errors trying to keep that straight. A couple of games ago a guard was posting up TJD and somebody doubled down leading to a kick out 3. I’m quite sure Woodys scheme didn’t call for that and someone just screwed the pooch. 

[Golfman25 6,789]

14 minutes ago, Banksyrules said:

Guys some of you know the details of the game better than I but I have question. Why do we over play at the post? Shouldn't we rely on TJD and Race to handle one on one matchups? just feels we over hedge and it just leads to a lot of open threes and that's when it gets nuts. 

My own simple minded answer is it's a belief by the older crowd that the 3 pt. shot is ineffective.  Sure it's flashy, but it's the old win by the 3, die by the 3 -- in other words luck had a lot to do with it.  (I saw that mentality in my Kid's high school a few years ago with the old coaches, and boy did we take some beatings)  What coaches need to understand is that the game is changing and today's kids can hit the three very effectively.  So no longer can you rely on luck.  You have to figure out a way to guard the 3, maybe at the expense of giving up a 2.  Just MHO.