IU Basketball News and Notes

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34 minutes ago, Honkyman said:

Either that or IU has been overrated in the pre-season polls. I think the team will be good and easily make the tourney.  But we still have a serious flaw--namely reliable 3-point shooters. As good as the recruiting class was, IU did not bring in a sharp shooter.  Fans are pointing to a good showing in an exhibition game against a weak opponent as proof that perimeter shooting will be significantly better than it has been. We need to wait until the competition is more serious before jumping to any conclusions about our shooting.

How do we know this year's team flaw is outside shooting.

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56 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

How do we know this year's team flaw is outside shooting.

It’s pretty obvious. Last year’s team was 13th in the conference/216th in the nation in 3 pt percentage, 14th in the conference/311th in the nation in 3 pt makes, and we lost our best shooter to the portal. We were one of the worst in the country in outside shooting, we lost our best shooter, and we didn’t bring in any shooters. 

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12 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

It’s pretty obvious. Last year’s team was 13th in the conference/216th in the nation in 3 pt percentage, 14th in the conference/311th in the nation in 3 pt makes, and we lost our best shooter to the portal. We were one of the worst in the country in outside shooting, we lost our best shooter, and we didn’t bring in any shooters. 

WE DID NOT LOSE OUR BEST SHOOTER TO THE PORTAL! (sorry to yell ... lol)

Parker Stewart was our best shooter against sh!tty teams and/or teams with sh!tty defenses. He absolutely tore it up from 3pt against Louisiana U (6-7), Syracuse (6-12), Jackson State (3-6), and Minnesota (6-10). That's 21-35 in those games and 32-100 in all other games. And even that 32% is complimentary; he started 'okay' against decent teams and got worse. After mid-February is when he really sank - he was 6-29 from three in his last nine games at IU.

Against good/very good teams he was largely a crappy, mediocre, frustrating outside shooter. X was so much better from deep against 'non-cupcake' schools it isn't even comparable! Hell, even Race was better from deep against non-cupcakes.

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14 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

It’s pretty obvious. Last year’s team was 13th in the conference/216th in the nation in 3 pt percentage, 14th in the conference/311th in the nation in 3 pt makes, and we lost our best shooter to the portal. We were one of the worst in the country in outside shooting, we lost our best shooter, and we didn’t bring in any shooters. 

That was last year and doesn't have anything nto do with this year. Look how XJ and Race finished the year shooting the 3. Also I think taking Stewart out of the lineup will be better for our offense because all he did was stay in the corner waiting to shoot. Get JHS and XJ out there who both can create off the dribble to get guys open shots. Also this team doesn't need to shoot 40% from 3 to be a great team.

I say Gunn in the long run will be a better shooter and player than Stewart was.  I think Race will be a more consistent shooter this year and XJ is better when stepping into his 3's and having JHS handling the ball it will open XJ to shoot.  I think you will see more consistent shooter with Kopp and I think JHS can be a reliable shooter.

JHS over RP 

Gunn over Stewart 

Reneau over Durr 

Banks over Lander 

I say what we brought in is a big upgrade over what we lost

 

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6 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

That was last year and doesn't have anything nto do with this year. Look how XJ and Race finished the year shooting the 3. Also I think taking Stewart out of the lineup will be better for our offense because all he did was stay in the corner waiting to shoot. Get JHS and XJ out there who both can create off the dribble to get guys open shots. Also this team doesn't need to shoot 40% from 3 to be a great team.

I say Gunn in the long run will be a better shooter and player than Stewart was.  I think Race will be a more consistent shooter this year and XJ is better when stepping into his 3's and having JHS handling the ball it will open XJ to shoot.  I think you will see more consistent shooter with Kopp and I think JHS can be a reliable shooter.

JHS over RP 

Gunn over Stewart 

Reneau over Durr 

Banks over Lander 

I say what we brought in is a big upgrade over what we lost

 

Disagree.

Durr is clearly a superior player to Malik Reneau.

 

;)

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32 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

It’s pretty obvious. Last year’s team was 13th in the conference/216th in the nation in 3 pt percentage, 14th in the conference/311th in the nation in 3 pt makes, and we lost our best shooter to the portal. We were one of the worst in the country in outside shooting, we lost our best shooter, and we didn’t bring in any shooters. 

God-tier shooter. Pretty average maker.

And kind of a turd.

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42 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

That was last year and doesn't have anything nto do with this year. Look how XJ and Race finished the year shooting the 3. Also I think taking Stewart out of the lineup will be better for our offense because all he did was stay in the corner waiting to shoot. Get JHS and XJ out there who both can create off the dribble to get guys open shots. Also this team doesn't need to shoot 40% from 3 to be a great team.

I say Gunn in the long run will be a better shooter and player than Stewart was.  I think Race will be a more consistent shooter this year and XJ is better when stepping into his 3's and having JHS handling the ball it will open XJ to shoot.  I think you will see more consistent shooter with Kopp and I think JHS can be a reliable shooter.

JHS over RP 

Gunn over Stewart 

Reneau over Durr 

Banks over Lander 

I say what we brought in is a big upgrade over what we lost

 

You left out Bates, we'll have to wait and see (of course) what he does in the games but he was a strong HS shooter, the talk from staff and players is that he's shooting very well, his shot looked very good at HH, and I'd bank on him shooting and scoring at a significantly improved level this season. Also, JG can shoot and in big moments, I'd bank on his low 30's percentage getting up to the 35% or so range, and I'm hoping he shoots more, he nailed a number of big moment - clutch shots last season.

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44 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Disagree.

Durr is clearly a superior player to Malik Reneau.

 

;)

I'll have what you're having, it must be some great stuff.;)

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1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

WE DID NOT LOSE OUR BEST SHOOTER TO THE PORTAL! (sorry to yell ... lol)

Parker Stewart was our best shooter against sh!tty teams and/or teams with sh!tty defenses. He absolutely tore it up from 3pt against Louisiana U (6-7), Syracuse (6-12), Jackson State (3-6), and Minnesota (6-10). That's 21-35 in those games and 32-100 in all other games. And even that 32% is complimentary; he started 'okay' against decent teams and got worse. After mid-February is when he really sank - he was 6-29 from three in his last nine games at IU.

Against good/very good teams he was largely a crappy, mediocre, frustrating outside shooter. X was so much better from deep against 'non-cupcake' schools it isn't even comparable! Hell, even Race was better from deep against non-cupcakes.

Statistically he was our best shooter at 39.3% from 3 overall on the season and 36.3% from 3 during conference play. He also led the team in makes per game both overall and during conference play. If you want to break down individual games to make the argument that his numbers are flawed, sure, maybe there’s an argument there. But he led the team in both percentage and makes. IU shot 33.3% from 3 last year. Take Stewart out and that goes down to 31.6%. Xavier Johnson was left wide open on a ton of his 3s last season. Credit to him for making them, but it’s not really comparable. And even at your 32% figure, that puts Stewart as the 3rd best shooter on the team last season (unless you count Lander and Nate Childress). No matter how you slice it, we were a terrible outside shooting team last season and lost our leader in makes and percentage.

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15 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

I'll have what you're having, it must be some great stuff.;)

@Stuhoo : 

 

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3 hours ago, IU Scott said:

How do we know this year's team flaw is outside shooting.

There may be other flaws. What we do know is that outside shooting was a major liability for last year's IU team. All but one of the starters from last year's team are back this year except the best 3-point shooter (percentage wise). The one disappointment with the incoming class was the failure to land a top outside shooter. So it stands to reason that last year's primary weakness without the addition of a sharpshooter will likely be this year's principle weakness.  Yes, players improve over the summer. But it is rare for a player to develop from being a poor shooter to being a very good shooter. We can predict great improvement, but at best that is conjecture.

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Sorry off topic. Didn’t know where else to post/ask this > Does anybody have a way to contact Big10+? Phone number, email? I signed up so I can get the game tomorrow but it signed me up to Illinois-ING! I searched all over the net…. I couldn’t find a phone number nor email.

Any help would be appreciated. 

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1 hour ago, Honkyman said:

There may be other flaws. What we do know is that outside shooting was a major liability for last year's IU team. All but one of the starters from last year's team are back this year except the best 3-point shooter (percentage wise). The one disappointment with the incoming class was the failure to land a top outside shooter. So it stands to reason that last year's primary weakness without the addition of a sharpshooter will likely be this year's principle weakness.  Yes, players improve over the summer. But it is rare for a player to develop from being a poor shooter to being a very good shooter. We can predict great improvement, but at best that is conjecture.

I agree with IU Scott, how do we know 3 point shooting is their weakness!  I know the opponent wasn’t good but they still had to knock down open shots and they did to the tune of 42%.  A very, very small sample size but they did shoot it better than they have in most games last year!

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3 hours ago, HoosierHoopster said:

You left out Bates, we'll have to wait and see (of course) what he does in the games but he was a strong HS shooter, the talk from staff and players is that he's shooting very well, his shot looked very good at HH, and I'd bank on him shooting and scoring at a significantly improved level this season. Also, JG can shoot and in big moments, I'd bank on his low 30's percentage getting up to the 35% or so range, and I'm hoping he shoots more, he nailed a number of big moment - clutch shots last season.

You are correct and I believe he will have a breakout year

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2 hours ago, Honkyman said:

There may be other flaws. What we do know is that outside shooting was a major liability for last year's IU team. All but one of the starters from last year's team are back this year except the best 3-point shooter (percentage wise). The one disappointment with the incoming class was the failure to land a top outside shooter. So it stands to reason that last year's primary weakness without the addition of a sharpshooter will likely be this year's principle weakness.  Yes, players improve over the summer. But it is rare for a player to develop from being a poor shooter to being a very good shooter. We can predict great improvement, but at best that is conjecture.

Gunn is a top 3 point shooter and Banks shot it well in high school 

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Sorry off topic. Didn’t know where else to post/ask this > Does anybody have a way to contact Big10+? Phone number, email? I signed up so I can get the game tomorrow but it signed me up to Illinois-ING! I searched all over the net…. I couldn’t find a phone number nor email.
Any help would be appreciated. 

https://support.bigtenplus.com/hc/en-us

Try this

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That was last year and doesn't have anything nto do with this year. Look how XJ and Race finished the year shooting the 3.

I think Race will be a more consistent shooter this year and XJ is better when stepping into his 3's
 

Nobody..? Am I on an island here?


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3 hours ago, HoosierAloha said:

 

Nobody..? Am I on an island here?


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Duh! Your name kinda gives it away!

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10 hours ago, rcs29 said:

https://support.bigtenplus.com/hc/en-us

Try this

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rsc29…. I looked high and low trying to find a way to contact them last night. I tried the link you provided this morning and BINGO! Got a live chat and the issue resolved. For some reason they don’t make it easy to contact them. 
Thanks to you… guess who’s watching the HOOSIERS tonight? ME!!

GO HOOSIERS!!

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10 hours ago, IU Scott said:

Gunn is a top 3 point shooter and Banks shot it well in high school 

Neither Gunn nor Banks seems to be among IU's top 9 rotation players. I hope Gunn gets playing time. He can definitely shoot it. The question with him is whether he is ready to play defense against teams like North Carolina, Kansas and against conference opponents. Banks was the last player to enter the game against Marion which suggests coaches don't believe he is ready yet.