Mike Woodson to be next IUBB coach. Thad Matta to be associate AD

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Suppose Woody can get Spike lee to start setting court side? Since we are gonna go, go BIG ! 

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Just now, Hoosierfan222 said:

Not at Indiana it's not, it's a four-year commitment. 

If you are talking about the commitment to pay for any players 4 yr education even after they have left the school, that's true.

The interesting dynamic is how it would play out and the optics if a player said I am taking myself out of the portal and Woodson said, not so fast.

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4 minutes ago, Hoosierfan222 said:

Not at Indiana it's not, it's a four-year commitment. 

Uhhhh no? lol 

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2 minutes ago, btownqb said:

Uhhhh no? lol 

people still don't understand the Student athlete Bill of rights. Unfortunate 

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Just now, IUc2016 said:

people still don't understand the Student athlete Bill of rights. Unfortunate 

Yes, I'm very confused. 

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This talk about entering & withdrawing from the portal is best solved by what was earlier posted: set a deadline.  If a player says he likes CMW but wants to think about it, cut 'em loose.  That is not being fully on-board.

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9 minutes ago, Hoosierfan222 said:

Not at Indiana it's not, it's a four-year commitment. 

I don’t believe it’s a four year athletic scholarship commitment.

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5 minutes ago, kottke said:

I don’t believe it’s a four year athletic scholarship commitment.

I thought that was what happened with Gelon, no? Archie was trying to get him to transfer because he couldn’t just take away his scholarship

 

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7 minutes ago, pumpfake said:

This talk about entering & withdrawing from the portal is best solved by what was earlier posted: set a deadline.  If a player says he likes CMW but wants to think about it, cut 'em loose.  That is not being fully on-board.

I agree. I'm sure we will. 

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4 minutes ago, Hoosierfan222 said:

I thought that was what happened with Gelon, no? Archie was trying to get him to transfer because he couldn’t just take away his scholarship

 

Scholarships have always technically been year to year, but to yank a player in good standing's scholarship when he didn't agree to leave would be committing recruiting suicide.

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Doesn't Matt Roth still have a year of eligibility? 

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This is from the IU Student-Athlete Bill of Rights in 2014. Not exactly sure what happens, though, when a player enters the transfer portal. I don't know if this was amended after that or not. 


IU Athletics is also making a Four Year Scholarship Commitment to every full head count scholarship student-athlete regardless of sport entering Indiana University to ensure that they have the time needed to earn an undergraduate degree. No athletic scholarship will be reduced because of injury, illness, physical or mental condition, or on the basis of a student-athlete's ability, performance or contribution to the team's success. 

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5 minutes ago, iu eyedoc said:

Scholarships have always technically been year to year, but to yank a player in good standing's scholarship when he didn't agree to leave would be committing recruiting suicide.

Yeah I agree with that, I remember Gelon’s family talking about Archie basically trying to do everything he could to make Gelon leave, even threatening to allow him to keep his scholarship but be off the basketball team.

hence my understanding you can’t just take away a player’s scholarship.

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7 minutes ago, iu eyedoc said:

Scholarships have always technically been year to year, but to yank a player in good standing's scholarship when he didn't agree to leave would be committing recruiting suicide.

This happens like daily. 

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2 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

This is from the IU Student-Athlete Bill of Rights in 2014. Not exactly sure what happens, though, when a player enters the transfer portal. I don't know if this was amended after that or not. 


IU Athletics is also making a Four Year Scholarship Commitment to every full head count scholarship student-athlete regardless of sport entering Indiana University to ensure that they have the time needed to earn an undergraduate degree. No athletic scholarship will be reduced because of injury, illness, physical or mental condition, or on the basis of a student-athlete's ability, performance or contribution to the team's success. 

It isn't a 4 year guarantee that they are part of the team. 

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25 minutes ago, Hoosierfan222 said:

Not at Indiana it's not, it's a four-year commitment. 

Student bill of rights guarantees them a scholarship, but it doesn’t guarantee them a spot on the basketball team, and their scholarship no longer counts against the # allowed if they’re removed. If Coach Woodson doesn’t want a kid on the team he can yank his scholarship and it won’t count against the #. The kid would still have a scholarship to attend IU, but it wouldn’t be a basketball scholarship. 

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1 minute ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Student bill of rights guarantees them a scholarship, but it doesn’t guarantee them a spot on the basketball team, and their scholarship no longer counts against the # allowed if they’re removed. If Coach Woodson doesn’t want a kid on the team he can yank his scholarship and it won’t count against the #. The kid would still have a scholarship to attend IU, but it wouldn’t be a basketball scholarship. 

Thank you

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1 hour ago, Chris007 said:

Why couldn't Hunter be the stretch 4?

He could, but I would like to have some competition for that spot.  I think the team has gotten used to the idea that these 5 guys are the starters and will remain that way barring injuries for the rest of the year.

The Miller model of running a team is dead, I want to throw as much dirt on it as possible.  Competition for positions is a very good thing.

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1 hour ago, btownqb said:

I was confused when he said we needed a stretch floor and then said "a Justin Smith type"

Yeah that comment was quite a stretch.

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I thought that was what happened with Gelon, no? Archie was trying to get him to transfer because he couldn’t just take away his scholarship
 

That was because of APR issues.

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