Ooooook who’s your # 2?

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4 minutes ago, trc1969 said:

I do have a feeling that Dolson has set his sights on Beard, with Coach Knight back in Bloomington it could be a determining factor in Beard's choice.

There's no doubt that Beard checks off a great many of the boxes.  The Texas family factor, style of offense and possibly his buyout are the only concerns I've heard.

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3 minutes ago, trc1969 said:

I do have a feeling that Dolson has set his sights on Beard, with Coach Knight back in Bloomington it could be a determining factor in Beard's choice.

I am having trouble reconciling the Knight/Beard/IU thing... Beard worked for Knight immediately after Knight was fired at IU... Knight was extremely bitter -- even vitriolic towards IU... I cannot imagine Beard not hearing any of that, and 10 years of Knight and Patrick beating that drum has to have had some impact in Beard's head... 

All of the IU admin that fired Knight is long gone, and Knight has ultimately reconciled (at least to some extent) towards IU, but is that enough to make all of that history a non-issue for Beard?

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4 minutes ago, Indiana muskie said:

Looking for winners , I thought plus strippers are added bonus . 

Maybe yes, maybe no :D

but the possible "show cause" order is a problem... as well as the overall sleazy, slimy aspect.

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1 hour ago, Vauxhall and IU said:

 

100% on all this.

Like I said, all candidates have potential downsides. Beilein's unique downside is his age, so it's definitely something to consider. What I'm confused by is the number of people I see saying that hiring Beilein would end their IU fandom, etc. That's just bizarre to me. I don't relish the idea of another coaching search in 5 years but I'm genuinely curious why this would be such a deal breaker for so many people. Alford is like that for me, I wouldn't support this program with him as coach, but there's a perfectly good moral reason for that. Beilein's downsides are real but I can't imagine them being prohibitive to being an IU fan.

I agree because Beilein is one of the best coaches in the country and have no idea why you would stop being a fan of IU if he is hired.  I will back whoever is hired like I have other coaches.  I will give them 4 years to make a judgment on their coaching performance

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1 hour ago, Ryno6284 said:

He is old! That's not cool! lol

Winning is cool though

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Just now, IU Scott said:

Winning is cool though

Yes it is, and i'm fine with JB!

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Honestly, after Brad, I think John Beilein is the safest hire out there!

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3 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

I agree because Beilein is one of the best coaches in the country and have no idea why you would stop being a fan of IU if he is hired.  I will back whoever is hired like I have other coaches.  I will give them 4 years to make a judgment on their coaching performance

In the case of Beilein, 4 years is about all he has... I just can't see hiring a dead-end like that... even if JB turns things around, who's to say when his shelf life is up, that the next guy can keep it going?

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There's no doubt that Beard checks off a great many of the boxes.  The Texas family factor, style of offense and possibly his buyout are the only concerns I've heard.

His buyout isn’t much. 2.5 million.

His offense isn’t Alabamaesque but he has made the tournament in 4/6 years (1 year didn’t go because of Covid) and has never had a first round exit. This includes his 1 year at Arkansas Little Rock when he upset Purdue in the first round. I understand the concern about it, but it’s good enough to win the big 12 and make the national championship game. Plus have another elite 8 appearance.

He was literally 12 seconds away from winning it all against Virginia until Deandre Hunter hit a corner three for Virginia to send it to overtime. He checks all of the boxes IMO. The knight connection is an added bonus and might help sway a decision for him to make a move.

But yeah, the MAJOR factor is his connections and ties to Texas. It’s certainly a long shot, but I did have a dream Tuesday night that he would be our coach so who knows!


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1 hour ago, JJacks said:

I've heard nothing but great things about him.  He was a really nice HS and small college player too. 

My best friends son is a manager for the women's program at IWU and we have talk about Tonnegal. It appears he sees coaching more of a way to minster to kids than just coaching basketball.  That is the main reason he has never left IWU and that kind of thing probably don't go well at a lot of schools.

 

 

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Just now, Ryno6284 said:

Honestly, after Brad, I think John Beilein is the safest hire out there!

 

Just now, Ryno6284 said:

Honestly, after Brad, I think John Beilein is the safest hire out there!

Maybe John can hire Greg Tonagel as an associate head coach!

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Just now, Ryno6284 said:

 

Maybe John can hire Greg Tonagel as an associate head coach!

How much is Tonagel paying you to carry his water? I'm only half-way joking...

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Just now, AZ Hoosier said:

How much is Tonagel paying you to carry his water? I'm only half-way joking...

I wish he was.  I don't know what happened to me today?  I've been drinking and got deep in thought.  I thought I had an epiphany about IU basketball.  I guess I'm the crazy one!

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45 minutes ago, Ryno6284 said:

Man, I wish you guys were closer to me geographically.  We could sit around for hours discussing IU basketball and drinking beers!  I hate typing $hit out!  My mind goes faster than I can hunt and peck!

I would to minus the beer

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The state of Indiana has a load of coaches who know the game and could do well in Div 1.  Some will never get a shot, and others don't want to deal with it!

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Just now, IU Scott said:

I would to minus the beer

You can have a coke, I don't discriminate!

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17 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

I am having trouble reconciling the Knight/Beard/IU thing... Beard worked for Knight immediately after Knight was fired at IU... Knight was extremely bitter -- even vitriolic towards IU... I cannot imagine Beard not hearing any of that, and 10 years of Knight and Patrick beating that drum has to have had some impact in Beard's head... 

All of the IU admin that fired Knight is long gone, and Knight has ultimately reconciled (at least to some extent) towards IU, but is that enough to make all of that history a non-issue for Beard?

The thing is none of the people who fired RMK are no longer at IU

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2 minutes ago, Ryno6284 said:

You can have a coke, I don't discriminate!

D. Pepsi

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10 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

In the case of Beilein, 4 years is about all he has... I just can't see hiring a dead-end like that... even if JB turns things around, who's to say when his shelf life is up, that the next guy can keep it going?

I can see 6 easily because there are coaches still working that is over 74

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8 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

The thing is none of the people who fired RMK are no longer at IU

Actually ALL of the people who fired RMK are no longer at IU... I said as much in my post...

but RMK carried that grudge for a long time after Myles Brand died...