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[Stuhoo 80,097]

2 hours ago, Brass Cannon said:

But but but but 
 

He just needs his players

It takes 3 years to implement his system 

Its all Justin Smith and Devonte Greens fault good riddance 

It was all Ed Schilling and Bruiser Flints fault good riddance 

Injuries 

Covid 

Mercury is in retrograde 

Hollywood makes unnecessary remakes 

 

[8bucks 6,389]

15 hours ago, coonhounds said:

If archie does indeed get one more year and tjd stays for the sake of this argument how well do we need to do to keep archie? You can also say if we are getting some good recruits or also without. I remember crean looked to be on his way out but landed thomas Bryant I doubt it played a role but maybe it did. Just a example

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The other side of the coin is what is the minimum he needs to be retained?  not what I want but what will prevent the AD from making a change.

I would say if he gets the team to a sweet 16 he is safely back. He might even be safe in the AD and media’s eyes if we finish in top 5 of the conference but flame out early in the tournament. 
 

What if he finishes top 4 of the conference and gets us to the elite 8. I would not be surprised then to start hearing about an extension. A “good” coach can’t recruit if his contract is in its latter years. 

[lillurk 3,738]

2 hours ago, Chris007 said:

People can complain, whine do whatever they want but IU isn't firing Archie after this season. 

That gives Nate Oats step tournaments to make a run that silences the one remaining knock some have against him

[Chris007 43,628]

7 minutes ago, lillurk said:

That gives Nate Oats step tournaments to make a run that silences the one remaining knock some have against him

I've been told he is a very smart guy. If that is true he's not leaving the SEC

[NashvilleHoosier 3,696]

2 hours ago, Chris007 said:

People can complain, whine do whatever they want but IU isn't firing Archie after this season. 

I look forward to reading the same thing over and over again, and then again, and then over and over again a few more times, from the same people for another offseason and all of next season. Also excited about anyone who accepts the statement you make,  understands there is nothing that will happen to change it, and chooses to try to focus on anything other than constant negativity as people who just don't get it. Long live the pumpers vs. the dumpers. 

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan 6,204]

People can complain, whine do whatever they want but IU isn't firing Archie after this season. 

Yep, I want to see him gone, but I'm 99.9% positive he will be back for at leastb1 more year. I can't see them paying this year's salary, the 10 mil payoff, plus whatever they pay a new coach with revenue being down

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[Trish 11,524]

2 hours ago, Chris007 said:

People can complain, whine do whatever they want but IU isn't firing Archie after this season. 

Exactly. 

Arch is here to stay! Until maybe next year if he can't pull it together lol. 

Nonetheless, if we do get a new coach, can we please bring back the old uniforms? These updated jerseys are terrible. Bring back the old school look!

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan 6,204]

I look forward to reading the same thing over and over again, and then again, and then over and over again a few more times, from the same people for another offseason and all of next season. Also excited about anyone who accepts the statement you make,  understands there is nothing that will happen to change it, and chooses to try to focus on anything other than constant negativity as people who just don't get it. Long live the pumpers vs. the dumpers. 

And it bleeding over to other threads

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4 minutes ago, woodenshoemanHoosierfan said:

Yep, I want to see him gone, but I'm 99.9% positive he will be back for at leastb1 more year. I can't see them paying this year's salary, the 10 mil payoff, plus whatever they pay a new coach with revenue being down

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Exactly if other departments here at IU have to give the athletic department money to get buy, then no way we can afford a buyout. Also, remember we have a new president coming in this summer. So unless a booster wants to step up and pay the whole buyout, then nothing is changing

[OldBuddy67 252]

20 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Exactly if other departments here at IU have to give the athletic department money to get buy, then no way we can afford a buyout. Also, remember we have a new president coming in this summer. So unless a booster wants to step up and pay the whole buyout, then nothing is changing

Unfortunately I believe you Chris. Archie is not the answer and never will be. If anyone thinks we are better next year they are crazy. My question is this: As you are connected at IU does he have a good relationship with his peers? Dolson? Archie seems arrogant, standoff-ish. Is perception reality? If true all things mentioned can't do him many favors with his peers and Dolson. Maybe he knows whose *ss to kiss. Curious to hear your thoughts.

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[Chris007 43,628]

1 minute ago, OldBuddy67 said:

Unfortunately I believe you Chris. Archie is not the answer and never will be. If anyone thinks we are better next year they are crazy. My questions is this: As you are connected at IU does he have a good relationship with his peers? Dolson? Archie seems arrogant, standoff-ish. Is perception reality? If true all things mentioned can't do him many favors with is peers and Dolson. Maybe he knows whose *ss to kiss. Curious to hear your thoughts.

I'm not as connected as I used to be because of coaches leaving and mainly because of COVID but he is much more liked than Crean was. Archie doesn't try to tell everyone how to do their job as Crean did. He stays mostly with the basketball program. He does come off that way from afar, but when you are talking to him it's different. He can seem like he thinks he's the smartest person in the room but being around college coaches at AAU tourneys they all think highly of themselves. Izzo is the worst. Dolson is one of the nicest guys I've ever been around. Not sure he has a bad relationship with anyone. I have been told that the alumni association, boosters, and some former players do think he is arrogant. Me personally I've really liked him ever since he first got hired, but like everyone, I wish he would win a little more. You can always message me if you have other questions. 

[Trish 11,524]

15 minutes ago, OldBuddy67 said:

Unfortunately I believe you Chris. Archie is not the answer and never will be. If anyone thinks we are better next year they are crazy. My question is this: As you are connected at IU does he have a good relationship with his peers? Dolson? Archie seems arrogant, standoff-ish. Is perception reality? If true all things mentioned can't do him many favors with his peers and Dolson. Maybe he knows whose *ss to kiss. Curious to hear your thoughts.

Call me crazy as the leader of the Archie bandwagon, but I think there is a chance.. a chance to be better next year. Assuming nature take it's course and our players develop, TJD returns, and we add Parker and Joey / Luke.. I mean.. on paper... and don't forget.. Al can return for another year... yeah it's all wishful thinking but...

 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 8,660]

6 minutes ago, Treesh said:

Call me crazy as the leader of the Archie bandwagon, but I think there is a chance.. a chance to be better next year. Assuming nature take it's course and our players develop, TJD returns, and we add Parker and Joey / Luke.. I mean.. on paper... and don't forget.. Al can return for another year... yeah it's all wishful thinking but...

 

But do we really want Al to return? No. He just eats up minutes for guys like Leal who can be better. 

[Chris007 43,628]

5 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

But do we really want Al to return? No. He just eats up minutes for guys like Leal who can be better. 

There is no reason in this world that Al needs to come back for another year

[Hoosierfan2017 21,121]

6 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

But do we really want Al to return? No. He just eats up minutes for guys like Leal who can be better. 

Yeah I agree. Nothing against him, he’s been a decent player, but he’s had his time and doesn’t fill a position of need. 

[coonhounds 8,861]

Call me crazy as the leader of the Archie bandwagon, but I think there is a chance.. a chance to be better next year. Assuming nature take it's course and our players develop, TJD returns, and we add Parker and Joey / Luke.. I mean.. on paper... and don't forget.. Al can return for another year... yeah it's all wishful thinking but...

 

I fully believe if tjd returns we are definitely better next year and anyone who says otherwise is crazy imo. How much better and will we have a future after with recruiting being down? That the big question. We need to be better but also need to land some impact players to have a future with archie imo

 

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[mamasa 15,244]

15 minutes ago, Treesh said:

Call me crazy as the leader of the Archie bandwagon, but I think there is a chance.. a chance to be better next year. Assuming nature take it's course and our players develop, TJD returns, and we add Parker and Joey / Luke.. I mean.. on paper... and don't forget.. Al can return for another year... yeah it's all wishful thinking but...

 

And, I'm still really intrigued by what Chris007 mentioned about Brooks and Henry having been discussed. Not getting hopes up, and certainly not implying that he made it seem likely, but.....

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 8,660]

4 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Yeah I agree. Nothing against him, he’s been a decent player, but he’s had his time and doesn’t fill a position of need. 

If he were still a 40% 3pt shooter and we had an offense that got shooters open and he was just a compliment to the offense and not a big part of it... He'd be better. He really is a bench player on a B1G title contender. At best. What other Big Ten school would he start for? Nebraska?

[Trish 11,524]

12 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

But do we really want Al to return? No. He just eats up minutes for guys like Leal who can be better. 

I can agree with this. Al doesn't have a future in the NBA, maybe oversea's he could play. 

But we could maybe use the depth since we're only bringing in Parker and Luke. Unless another transfer / recruit is in the works? Leal / Kristian / Trey / Jordan all need the playing time for sure.. but Al supplies good defense and the occasional 3 here and there. Bone head decisions yes but depth wouldn't be a bad thing for Archie's run at the tourney next year. With our injury history.. hell we might need him.lol 

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1 hour ago, Chris007 said:

Exactly if other departments here at IU have to give the athletic department money to get buy, then no way we can afford a buyout. Also, remember we have a new president coming in this summer. So unless a booster wants to step up and pay the whole buyout, then nothing is changing

I figured this as well. In fact I told several people that we need to get used to mediocrity until his contract is up.

The only thing that makes me wonder is that next year he would only have a year left on his contract. That makes recruiting even harder than it seems it has been for him lately. Who wants to play for a coach on the hot seat with a year left on his contract?