General Coach Candidate News

[Juwan Moye 965]

2 minutes ago, JHoosier914 said:

I know nothing but I think today is when the lid comes off and tomorrow we officially have a coach.

but then again, I could just need coffee

At the latest we should know by Monday as that’s when the portal officially opens. If we somehow don’t know by then, I’d think the most likely reason is simply that our new coach is still coaching.

The wait really shouldn’t be much longer, people spinning themselves up over nothing.

[str8baller 7,086]

7 hours ago, akumanina said:

I agree with you. Obviously, Chris Collins is not a sexy choice, but considering the level of talent he's been forced to work with, there are a few positive things. (1) He is a pretty good motivator (2) His teams play hard nosed defense because that's pretty much the only way he can win (3) From offensive standpoint, Collins seems to utilize his players' talents well and he can tweak based on what he's got. 

With that said, it's kind of a mystery why he hasn't attracted job offers.

The thing you have to wonder about Collin’s is if he can come here and leverage IU’s resources in recruiting the way he and K did at Duke when he was recruiting there. If he could do that and build out rosters like Knight did with the best kids from Indiana and the contiguous states with the occasional nation-wide 5* like K did, he could build a monster. You fill out the rest of the roster with the Barnhizers, McIntoshes, and Leals of the state.  
 

I mean any coach could theoretically do that, but I say Collin’s specifically because he’s lived it up close with K, has the regional recruiting network already, and we know he has the coaching chops to succeed in the B1G.  
 

He’s my one dark horse candidate that I can talk myself into returning IU to its former glory not only in accomplishments but in “style.”

(FWIW, my only other 3 are Stevens, Wright and Bennett. I think success under the other coaches is possible but looks and feels different)

[Juwan Moye 965]

3 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said:

Rabby probably did get a text. I think we’re going to land a coach out of left field that’s going to cause big excitement 

I still think the most likely story here is that Tucker is transferring, and Rabby caught wind of it, but the Tucker family didn’t want it known as they’re currently using Indianas NIL position as additional negotiation leverage against other schools to get a better offer.

 

edit: was covering the Rabby/Tucker bit, no clue about what Rabby has said about the coach.

[SlammySammy 1,684]

1 minute ago, str8baller said:

The thing you have to wonder about Collin’s is if he can come here and leverage IU’s resources in recruiting the way he and K did at Duke when he was recruiting there. If he could do that and build out rosters like Knight did with the best kids from Indiana and the contiguous states with the occasional nation-wide 5* like K did, he could build a monster. You fill out the rest of the roster with the Barnhizers, McIntoshes, and Leals of the state.  
 

I mean any coach could theoretically do that, but I say Collin’s specifically because he’s lived it up close with K, has the regional recruiting network already, and we know he has the coaching chops to succeed in the B1G.  
 

He’s my one dark horse candidate that I can talk myself into returning IU to its former glory not only in accomplishments but in “style.”

(FWIW, my only other 3 are Stevens, Wright and Bennett. I think success under the other coaches is possible but looks and feels different)

"IF" "COULD" ....nope.....There is a big gap between your "other 3" and Collins.....My lord, we have lost our minds.

[HoosierSadaseci 2,975]

8 hours ago, moyemayhem said:

Someone is shooting up the insider rankings.

Only if their information turns out to be accurate...

[Hoosier987 2,512]

1 minute ago, Juwan Moye said:

I still think the most likely story here is that Tucker is transferring, and Rabby caught wind of it, but the Tucker family didn’t want it known as they’re currently using Indianas NIL position as additional negotiation leverage against other schools to get a better offer.

 

edit: was covering the Rabby/Tucker bit, no clue about what Rabby has said about the coach.

He claimed he got texts from two different people last night that “it’s done.” Curry Hicks was also doing a podcast and essentially said it’s not McCollum or the other names mentioned but either DeVries or the “mystery candidate.” 

[Ryno6284 4,176]

8 hours ago, BehindTheBench said:

Anybody else like a kid on Christmas morning right now? 

Before or after opening presents? Lol

[RoadRage 2,902]

23 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

I'd be perfectly fine with DD, I would personally prefer McCollum. That said, if the noise coming out from national rumor mills is that it is done, I think you can tea leaves that to what our people here have said which is essentially that it has been done for weeks. If that is the case, it is someone big. If it just got signed, it's probably Devries. 

We may have to wait to see if Iowa chooses DeVries or McCollum, then we'll get the leftovers....that may be how far IU Basketball has fallen?

 

[JHoosier914 1,407]

6 minutes ago, Juwan Moye said:

At the latest we should know by Monday as that’s when the portal officially opens. If we somehow don’t know by then, I’d think the most likely reason is simply that our new coach is still coaching.

The wait really shouldn’t be much longer, people spinning themselves up over nothing.

Well, yes, Monday at the latest would be the intelligent thing to do so portal players can know that we have a coach and who it is…

I am operating on the assumption (a BIG assumption, I understand ) that this coaching hire could (would?) send shockwaves through the CBB landscape.

just one makes opinion, and it could be very wrong

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 10,921]

4 minutes ago, Juwan Moye said:

I still think the most likely story here is that Tucker is transferring, and Rabby caught wind of it, but the Tucker family didn’t want it known as they’re currently using Indianas NIL position as additional negotiation leverage against other schools to get a better offer.

 

edit: was covering the Rabby/Tucker bit, no clue about what Rabby has said about the coach.

Ok but he's either in the portal or not. And he's not. 

[Pagoda 3,833]

35 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

I said (and it is) a “not IU” source.

The source was quite confident that Stevens was a no. However, I also added that any source, unless it’s a direct family member or the candidate or candidate’s agent, is not an absolute guarantee on any information.

 

On this note, I've heard that people sometimes ask his kids if their dad would take the IU job -- not surprising.  I've heard their response is he would not.  Is that the truth?  Or the only answer they can give?  I don't know.

I continue to think Scott will get us a good coach.  It's sort of funny, some people get mad at him, but he's probably a bigger IUBB fan than anyone on this board.  He's on our side and he has been doing a great job the past few years.

And lastly, unless we see someone like an Osterman or Thamel say we are getting close to ending this process, I don't put any stock in these endless donor/agent rumors and "it's done" stuff.  A lot of media are not using good judgement to filter out rumors and legit facts.

Anyways, I'm still optimistic here down the stretch.

[Artie86 3,320]

7 hours ago, Bowhunter said:

Maybe people are just messing with Rabby since he messed up today, 

 

.....his hiccup is definitely going to follow him around for a while. It almost seems he was waiting with baited breath for some juicy IU news and totally botched it! 

Very cringeworthy on his part.....lol

[Tasmanian Devil 1,904]

26 minutes ago, SlammySammy said:

Which one of you maroons think Collins is the guy???? Oh, I know, I know....if only he had IU NIL....right??? Oh the grades.right? Sorry, but NO. If we are going purely off potential, I will take Devries or McCollum...not this dud....Also, we poo poo the possibility of Brownell but welcome Collins??? FFS, we have lost our minds.

Yeah, because Collins obviously is coaching under the same situation as either of those two.

Some people just don’t understand . . .

[Tasmanian Devil 1,904]

9 minutes ago, str8baller said:

The thing you have to wonder about Collin’s is if he can come here and leverage IU’s resources in recruiting the way he and K did at Duke when he was recruiting there. If he could do that and build out rosters like Knight did with the best kids from Indiana and the contiguous states with the occasional nation-wide 5* like K did, he could build a monster. You fill out the rest of the roster with the Barnhizers, McIntoshes, and Leals of the state.  
 

I mean any coach could theoretically do that, but I say Collin’s specifically because he’s lived it up close with K, has the regional recruiting network already, and we know he has the coaching chops to succeed in the B1G.  
 

He’s my one dark horse candidate that I can talk myself into returning IU to its former glory not only in accomplishments but in “style.”

(FWIW, my only other 3 are Stevens, Wright and Bennett. I think success under the other coaches is possible but looks and feels different)

Very well said

[Hoosier987 2,512]

53 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Did I mention I confirmed that Stevens was at the B1G tournament last weekend?

Whoa. Alright. 

[Jet812 512]

1 minute ago, Tasmanian Devil said:

Yeah, because Collins obviously is coaching under the same situation as either of those two.

Some people just don’t understand . . .

To say they don’t understand is probably not a fair characterization.  Perhaps a reasonable position for some is that because Collins is N’western’s best coach, that means he’s better than Bill Foster, Bill Carmody, etc, & I don’t think they or any other Northwestern coach has done much elsewhere, so that may just be a tallest midget accolade.  The bottom line is, some believe in the old Bill Parcells adage that you are who your record says you are…

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12 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said:

He claimed he got texts from two different people last night that “it’s done.” Curry Hicks was also doing a podcast and essentially said it’s not McCollum or the other names mentioned but either DeVries or the “mystery candidate.” 

And Devries is Iowa bound 

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32 minutes ago, SlammySammy said:

Which one of you maroons think Collins is the guy???? Oh, I know, I know....if only he had IU NIL....right??? Oh the grades.right? Sorry, but NO. If we are going purely off potential, I will take Devries or McCollum...not this dud....Also, we poo poo the possibility of Brownell but welcome Collins??? FFS, we have lost our minds.

Collins would be a fantastic choice. How many players can you name that he had that we’re all Big Ten. Making the big dance at Northwestern is like winning the national title at I U . He has kicked our tail most of the time with far less talent. I 100% support Collins as next coach.

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1 minute ago, Jet812 said:

To say they don’t understand is probably not a fair characterization.  Perhaps a reasonable position for some is that because Collins is N’western’s best coach, that means he’s better than Bill Foster, Bill Carmody, etc, & I don’t think they or any other Northwestern coach has done much elsewhere, so that may just be a tallest midget accolade.  The bottom line is, some believe in the old Bill Parcells adage that you are who your record says you are…

But does it?

Just look at academic requirements. Do other schools deal with that?

And the other NU coaches? Did they have to deal with the transfer portal? NIL? Collins probably had NU in the dance before Barnhizer went down with injury.

I’m not saying he should be the first choice. But he’d do well in Bloomington.

[Stuhoo 87,531]

32 minutes ago, SlammySammy said:

ridiculous

You’re completely ignoring the context.

If you want more context, check out FSU’s record before, during, and after when Gates was Hamilton’s top assistant. It’s truly notable.