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[Mr. Hoosier Pride 1,184]

3 minutes ago, tyappleg said:

It's like the peanut butter, and anybody who answers differently is wrong. 

[Artie86 3,066]

Just now, Silat Player said:

This. IU You don't make made a scared hire (last time with Woodson). They ended up Don't hire for worse than mediocrity mediocracy. 

If you can't hire your home run (Stevens, Donvan, etc...), then you hire somebody who MIGHT be a home run in the future. 

You don't hire someone who has already proven themselves to be a singles or doubles hitter at a high major level already (Cronin, Brownell, etc...).

And I honestly don't believe that IU is going to hire someone like Wade or Beard. I think that IU is too fearful of bad PR. While the faces have changed, this is the same university who self-reported and fired their coach for illegal phone calls...

....fixed it for you! lol

[Mr. Hoosier Pride 1,184]

6 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

I thought so too, but the creator of it pronounces it JIF, in his acceptance speech even had a PowerPoint with a slide saying "it's JIF not GIF".

smokescreen

[Home Jersey 12,867]

1 minute ago, JSHoosier said:

Without the buyout I'd take Cronin over McCollum every time, even if the ceiling is Crean level; he's not worth that buyout though.

If you thought Cronin had the same ceiling as Crean (I don’t) not sure why you’d pick him over McCollum. Maybe you believe McCollum doesn’t have championship upside at this level, which would be a fair enough take at this point in time. Suppose this is the crux of the floor vs ceiling debate

Just now, mdiu28 said:

IF the choice is one of those three or McCollum - give me Collins all day every day. Brad Brownell shouldn't even be in our hc conversation. If we end up with him, it's because everyone else said no and Beard was a non-starter. 

I'd rather take a chance on someone who knows the league inside and out and has been on a P5 staff forever with the other being Duke (I believe Collins has 2 rings).

I will be interested to see how Drake does in the tourney when they play big boy schools. 

Totally, I’d prefer Cronin and Collins to McCollum, just doubt they leave where they are. I’m going to be watching / rooting for Drake, but don’t expect them to make much noise to be honest. Probably depends on match ups. I’m bullish on him regardless of their March outcome. Will be interesting to see how well he game plans something like that. Love March

[Motley's 389]

10 minutes ago, ronzo4IU said:

Well, maybe there in lies the problem with coaching at Indiana (if true) and maybe that needs to change. We don’t need a coach being concerned with being the face of Indiana and schmoozing boosters, etc. as much as we need him to focus on doing his job, which is recruiting/coaching basketball and winning games.

Right. I don't really see Cig as a "schmoozer", salesman type. He probably ranks donor meetings alongside colonoscopies. But the guy is supremely confident in his abilities and projects that. Also very media savvy. 

[AH1971 2,333]

10 minutes ago, EasyEJay said:

I put McDermott in the same category as Cronin, does he hang a banner ? Probably not but do we win 20 + games every year and compete for Big Ten title/get to tourney every year and see where the chips fall ? Most years yes. 

This is a really good perspective.

There is a far better chance that someone like McCollum last 3-4 years than hangs a banner. When you hire a guy who has one complete season at the D1 level in any capacity with the expectations of "banners", you're going to fail more times than not.

Cronin and McDermott will win you 20+ games, have you competing for B10 titles and subsequent protective seeds nearly every season. Get a top 4-5 seed every season and your chances of hanging the next banner increase drastically. 

[EasyEJay 398]

1 minute ago, realTomCrean said:

For a fanbase who has experienced the Cig effect, you'd think the concept of hiring is much easier now: Get a guy who wins

This is another thing I don't understand you think the talent needed to compete at a high level in the Big ten cares about how many D2 titles this dude won ? 

And when it comes to Cig we act like he had NO Power Conference experience LOL do you think he spends times talking to recruits about his time at IUP or Elon. Or his time at NC State coaching Phillip Rivers and Russell Wilson or His time at Alabama under Saban how he recruited Mark Ingram and Julio Jones. You think recruits that come to his office see displayed his Bama title rings or his IUP conference title rings ? LOL 

[AZ Hoosier 9,629]

23 minutes ago, SlammySammy said:

Didn't we have someone doing haikus about 100 pages back? Bring those back...we need a change of pace today

just loaded up a few...

[Artie86 3,066]

5 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

Correct.  I'm not here to date the 5th hottest chick. Cronin under any circumstances is boring af. 

.....what if it's 3 in the am and pickin's are slim??......lol ;)

....she'z gonna have to be purty! lol

[realTomCrean 2,251]

4 minutes ago, mdiu28 said:

I will be interested to see how Drake does in the tourney when they play big boy schools. 

Drake S16 inbound

[BleedCubbieBlue 1,822]

1 hour ago, MikeRoberts said:

But there is no wiggle room, back pocket needed if you truly have a deal in place. If you just have a handshake then yes, backup plans are necessary

I went back and looked at Archie and Woody’s contracts and both had an execution date that was after the date they were announced as the new coach. Maybe Brad & Scott just have a handshake agreement or memorandum of understanding at this point.

[Artie86 3,066]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Hoosier Pride said:

smokescreen

...hey, that's my line! lol!!!

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 10,438]

1 minute ago, EasyEJay said:

This is another thing I don't understand you think the talent needed to compete at a high level in the Big ten cares about how many D2 titles this dude won ? 

And when it comes to Cig we act like he had NO Power Conference experience LOL do you think he spends times talking to recruits about his time at IUP or Elon. Or his time at NC State coaching Phillip Rivers and Russell Wilson or His time at Alabama under Saban how he recruited Mark Ingram and Julio Jones. You think recruits that come to his office see displayed his Bama title rings or his IUP conference title rings ? LOL 

I think the convos either way would make me yawn... 

If you don't have the right plan to develop me as a player and person, I'm probably not interested. 

[realTomCrean 2,251]

In 3 games v P5 for Mccollum: 80pts, 81 pts, 73pts. The narrative of miserable offense isn't accurate, might not be the Hurryin' Hoosiers tempo but you don't score 80+ with an Off. system as has been described here

[Silat Player 1,191]

5 minutes ago, mdiu28 said:

IF the choice is one of those three or McCollum - give me Collins all day every day. Brad Brownell shouldn't even be in our hc conversation. If we end up with him, it's because everyone else said no and Beard was a non-starter. 

I'd rather take a chance on someone who knows the league inside and out and has been on a P5 staff forever with the other being Duke (I believe Collins has 2 rings).

I will be interested to see how Drake does in the tourney when they play big boy schools. 

The problem is that Drake doesn't exactly have big boy talent. How well they do is mostly going to be determined by who they're matched up with. 

 

[AZ Hoosier 9,629]

26 minutes ago, JustWinBaby said:

Now, how is GIF pronounced? Like gift without the "t", or like Jif peanut butter? Discuss

yes

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Wilhite and the team who developed the file format included in the technical specifications that the acronym was to be pronounced with a soft g. In the specifications, the team wrote that "choosy programmers choose ... 'jif'", in homage to the peanut butter company Jif's advertising slogan of "choosy moms choose Jif". According to ABC News, the debate stretches as far back as 1994, with an author of an encyclopedia of image formats stating that "most people" seem to prefer the hard g pronunciation over his preferred soft g.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pronunciation_of_GIF

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2 minutes ago, EasyEJay said:

This is another thing I don't understand you think the talent needed to compete at a high level in the Big ten cares about how many D2 titles this dude won ? 

And when it comes to Cig we act like he had NO Power Conference experience LOL do you think he spends times talking to recruits about his time at IUP or Elon. Or his time at NC State coaching Phillip Rivers and Russell Wilson or His time at Alabama under Saban how he recruited Mark Ingram and Julio Jones. You think recruits that come to his office see displayed his Bama title rings or his IUP conference title rings ? LOL 

The Cig experience at Bama is a huge difference for sure. RE: the D2 championships, it’s not about the fact he won 4 of them. It’s about the demonstrable fact this guy knows how to build a championship level culture. That’s proven at the D1 level too now with the sole share of the MVC title, setting Drake’s single season wins record. 

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 10,438]

Just now, realTomCrean said:

In 3 games v P5 for Mccollum: 80pts, 81 pts, 73pts. The narrative of miserable offense isn't accurate, might not be the Hurryin' Hoosiers tempo but you don't score 80+ with an Off. system as has been described here

They're gunna move the goal posts on you 

[EasyEJay 398]

Just now, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

I think the convos either way would make me yawn... 

If you don't have the right plan to develop me as a player and person, I'm probably not interested. 

kind of a rhetorical statement,  You can choose to believe me or not but I coach HS kids its most definitely the latter 

[Silat Player 1,191]

2 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

I think the convos either way would make me yawn... 

If you don't have the right plan to develop me as a player and person, I'm probably not interested. 

And how much are you going to pay me?

And I want to get to the league, so I want playing time. 

I also want to get a sweet ride while I'm in college. Can you help me with that?