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[iu eyedoc 2,959]

Got a tie in the coaching FF thread need someone to break it.

 

[lillurk 4,239]

36 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

It kind of looks like he’s lost his fastball this season.

Yeah, I think he’s good but he could certainly wear out his welcome, will probably continue to have NBA options, his wife allegedly doesn’t want to leave the NE corridor — combine those two and what if the Knicks run off Thibs? — and what if his well-regarded assistants don’t join him? Or get head jobs themselves?

I think it’s all moot

[IvanRenkosillegitimatechild 198]

Anyone know why they are just now announcing Indiana is hiring a search firm? I thought that was known a while ago?

[Home Jersey 11,680]

49 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

It kind of looks like he’s lost his fastball this season.

My obligatory defense of Hurley as his #1 fan on this board 

He did not do as good of a job in the portal as he had to for a 3 peat IMO. Mahaney from St Mary’s has been mostly a dud with a few bright spots. No Cam Spencer replacement. That’s been McNeeley, who also is the Steph Castle replacement. He is a key player for them and has been injured for a few games. Karaban who they also rely on has been dinged up too. Their perimeter defense is worse this year than the past 2. If they got a guy like Koby Brea at Kentucky who they were in on they’d be looking much better. I forget who else but there was a very good PG they were in on and Hurley supposedly chose Mahaney over. So miss there.

And they got Tarris Reed from Michigan in the portal. He has looked good, but he’s not Clingan and the duo with Samson Johnson just doesn’t work as well. Johnson is a decent but frustrating player. I like Hassan Diarra but same thing to an extent. They got a highly rated freshman guard Nowell but he has only really seen spot minutes. Fans have wanted to see more of him. Hurley has been bringing along Ross and Stewart, two wings / stretch guys who should be good contributors next year. Them plus Karaban, sophomore Nowell and if they can get Solo Ball to come back + their freshman class, they’ll be right back in it. IMO he missed last portal cycle but hasn’t lost his fast ball. He will have a good roster next year, had bad injury luck this year and still wouldn’t bet against them making a S16 in a down year even if they’re an 8 seed or lower.

[Hovadipo 58,931]

1 hour ago, Pagoda said:

Thanks.  Interesting ZO/MN report IU is going to allocate our rev share to bball to be 2x the conference average.  This is the first I've heard this.

Some schools may do something similar, but it sounds like we are getting aggressive with rev share to bball and we will be top or close to top of the conference.  That rev share commitment plus our already top-5 NIL is a lot of player payroll available, not exactly surprising for IUBB.  Coach candidates should find that enticing.

That said, I hope we give Cig plenty of the rev share too...

Wonder if we were able to secure some extra outside NIL to make up the difference. 

[Pagoda 2,218]

7 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

Wonder if we were able to secure some extra outside NIL to make up the difference. 

Could be.  Cig continues to be publicly happy with the support he gets.  I haven’t heard what our NIL number was for the ‘25 team yet… I could use some insider info there.

[IUBtown 32]

3 hours ago, Home Jersey said:

Starting a new job is pretty exhausting between meeting new VIPs/admin, then the actual work and recruiting in college sports on top of off court obligations. You generally just have really “settled in” after a year on a new job. IMO it would be exhausting to think about doing that in back to back years especially when UM and IU are very comparable right now. UM even may have a slight edge. Unless they really want to be in Bloomington I think taking the job at IU only ends up making things more complicated / potentially strained with family 

If you plan is to be there 10-20 years, why chose Michigan over Indiana if you're dusty May?  Why let one year dictate your next 20? The only reason I see him not taking it is not wanting the fishbowl or the possibility of damaging his and his family's current lives in Indiana.  

[ap2345 9,738]

1 hour ago, Chris007 said:

It kind of looks like he’s lost his fastball this season.

Clingan merchant 

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1 minute ago, IUBtown said:

If you plan is to be there 10-20 years, why chose Michigan over Indiana if you're dusty May?  Why let one year dictate your next 20? The only reason I see him not taking it is not wanting the fishbowl or the possibility of damaging his and his family's current lives in Indiana.  

Yeah family’s lives in Indiana is a big part. Guess you could also say one in the hand is better than two in the bush. Already got it rolling at Michigan. It’s a risk to leave for IU when you factor in the family aspect. Payoff could be great, legendary. Not sure if that’s enough. Hope so. Would be very pleasantly surprised

[AZ Hoosier 8,942]

2 hours ago, Pagoda said:

Ha.  I guess they noticed 90% of fans didn’t like them.

Didn't stop them from wearing the ugly Black History Month uniforms... not a big deal, but why one and not the other? Both were ugly as sin.

[lillurk 4,239]

31 minutes ago, IvanRenkosillegitimatechild said:

Anyone know why they are just now announcing Indiana is hiring a search firm? I thought that was known a while ago?

I saw the tweets but haven’t read the reporting. It may be that it wasn’t public knowledge until a records request came back.

[IvanRenkosillegitimatechild 198]

1 minute ago, lillurk said:

I saw the tweets but haven’t read the reporting. It may be that it wasn’t public knowledge until a records request came back.

Oh interesting I never thought about it that way

[Asha’man 120]

12 hours ago, AZ Hoosier said:

That's the problem with how this whole thing is constructed. The concept of NIL (Name, Image, Likeness) is NOT pay for play... it was set up to compensate the players for use of their name, their image and their likeness... in theory, to allow them to be paid for their inclusion in video games, to be able to endorse local businesses and products, etc... but as it's currently implemented, it has become pay for play. 

So, rather than being paid a few bucks to hawk Billy Bob's Bargain Emporium, Johnny Athlete gets paid $1M to come play basketball at Indiana (or Duke, or Kentucky, etc)... 

The revenue sharing is coming and as I understand it, it will be used to compensate all players as equitably as possible, based on the distribution across the various sports... so, everyone on the basketball team will get the same sized slice of pie... and the football players will get the same sized slice of pie, but the size of their slice of pie will be different (bigger or smaller) that the water polo team get.

Unfortunately, the genie is out of the bottle, and the whole thing is a pay for play situation not unlike the Kansas and UCLA and Kentucky and Duke payouts of days gone by, except this payout is above the table instead of under it. And the bottom line is there appears to be no accountability from the players, nor is there any discernible rhyme or reason for who gets what kind of payout (Leal and Gallo being paid to defense Woodson, for example).

We also have to assume that whoever the next coach is, his way of distributing NIL will be much different than his predecessor... and I suppose, with the current structure, that will be within his purview to do.

 
I was listening to a podcast on my way home from work today and they said Iowa’s collective actually ran out of money and the person running it was paying the players out of pocket to fulfill the contracts. So to me sounds like the boosters at Iowa are tapped out already. Only the schools with the mega boosters will rise to the top until some sort of collective bargaining occurs. This actually helps IU in the short term to get things going.

 I think NIL is great. Woodson is just a bad coach. These same players under a good coach is a top 25 team and the talk of overpaying players goes away. 

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[AZ Hoosier 8,942]

1 hour ago, RaceToTheTop said:

No, that was a former Baylor coach — Dave Bliss

Bliss was from RMK's tree...

[WayneFleekHoosier 49,623]

My boi Tkachuck with the equalizer.


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[IU5355 87]

Is the search firm a formality? I'd have to think Dolson has his own list. 

[IUBtown 32]

14 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Yeah family’s lives in Indiana is a big part. Guess you could also say one in the hand is better than two in the bush. Already got it rolling at Michigan. It’s a risk to leave for IU when you factor in the family aspect. Payoff could be great, legendary. Not sure if that’s enough. Hope so. Would be very pleasantly surprised

Not to sound salty but if that's his thoughts he probably doesn't belong here.  That's essentially a losers mentality.  

[WayneFleekHoosier 49,623]

Is the search firm a formality? I'd have to think Dolson has his own list. 

Yeah, it’s how Indiana does things. KathyWithaC probably could fill in the rest. Lol.


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Just now, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Yeah, it’s how Indiana does things. KathyWithaC probably could fill in the rest. Lol.


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"It's a process"

[AZ Hoosier 8,942]

1 hour ago, iubb said:

lol at AI written slop

and it's Slick Rick.