General Coach Candidate News

[OGIUAndy 862]

25 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I'm not going to speak for the others but I will :-) but I don't think you will see them on here sharing info unless it's Isaac. When we do and then Goodman releases a flimsy statement we get called names, bashed, and everything else. I know AP has been hearing it on the discord, I heard it here every day since last Friday, and RTZ just seems like Jerry staying away till the season gets closer to being over. It's easier to just discuss amongst ourselves. 

I will continue on the coaching candidate posts because I enjoy it but that's about it. If we don't get our top 2 I like McDermott, OTZ, and McCollum. That's about it for me. I could get used to Drew but the church stuff loses me quickly. Cronin is OK, I think he would win but just not my cup of tea. 

I get Drew has the Indiana (state)  ties and he's done very well at Baylor, but he just seems like a really, really, bad fit. I can't believe he's a real candidate. 

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48 minutes ago, GloryDays said:

 

...lol, Clockwork Orange!

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21 minutes ago, lillurk said:

What’s IU’s preseason AP rank next year? I’ll say 17.

The talent in the football portal was lower last year because the rev share $ starting next season helped teams keep players.  The rev share $ going to bball is smaller, but it may also reduce portal talent this year to some extent.

I think we are about to do a Louisville/UK mega reset — almost entirely new roster.  My guess is with a portal perhaps a little down and all the unknowns we will be, IU will be hard to put in the top-25.

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3 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Current IU starting lineup for next year:

Hrno

Sisley

that's all i gots.

Vlad goldin still eligibility? Asking for a friend 

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New Fear of God unis drop while Scott Drew chatter picks up. Coincidence? I THINK NOT.

[JSHoosier 21,424]

45 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I think it came down to the football game, we lost so they're out. LOL I have no idea really was just told she is probably following her brother

The ND women's soccer program has had some success. 3 titles, 5 runner ups and 11 conference tournament championships.

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1 minute ago, Stuhoo said:

Based on that logic, Coach Hinton would also be an appropriate choice for Indiana in the same ways that McCollum would be.

Just saying. There is a hell of a massive difference between winning and running a successful program in D2 versus at a top ten budget program.

 I think a good coach can win anywhere especially with NIL and there's plenty of examples, Kelsey, May and maybe Pope being examples.

I'm pretty sure you know the Hinton remark was to point out coaching isn't defined at what level you're at at the time and if a large class school  in the state was looking for a coach they should look at her.

Her dad is a hall of famer.Jesus way to twist something into an argument.

 

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3 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

The ND women's soccer program has had some success. 3 titles, 5 runner ups and 11 conference tournament championships.

Makes sense. But we just hired a new coach so I'm sure our success is right around the corner

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5 hours ago, LamarCheeks said:

Fell asleep during the Rodents-UCLA game last night. 

Didn't realize the Rodents won. That comes after a win Saturday at Southern Cal -- giving them an LA sweep. 

Scratch Cronin off the list. 

Add Ben Johnson! 

I don't want him, but he has really turned Minnesota around this year. 

[DSUMMITT 39]

I'm sure I'm being paranoid/over thinking this but is this year a bad year to evaluate Coaches? Or maybe coaches evaluations have to be weighted differently then anything before these big changes.

1) How did a coach perform pre-TP and pre-NIL? Does that matter as much? Seems you would have to evaluate if they had better talent vs minimal talent - for me there was a larger disparity of talent in these years so that has to be taken into effect for or against depending on what school they were at.

2) After TP and NIL? What was their 'budget' - how well did they spend it? If they had none - how did their team change (lost talent)? GM evaluation along with coaching.

I think you have to understand budget and  coaching pre and post NIL - along with the other. I guess I say it's a 'bad' year cause do we have a good sample size of how well Coaches are embracing this new model? Plus the model is changing probably in the next year ot 2 - so how well did they adept to change? 

  

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17 minutes ago, maharkn said:

Not to far away from me. Her husband was my high school coach at Paoli. He did some recruting back in the day 

 

She also won a title at New Albany with a good friend of mines daughter as a star.

Great coach.

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14 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

The talent in the football portal was lower last year because the rev share $ starting next season helped teams keep players.  The rev share $ going to bball is smaller, but it may also reduce portal talent this year to some extent.

I think we are about to do a Louisville/UK mega reset.  My guess is with a portal perhaps a little down and all the unknowns we will be, IU will be hard to put in the top-25.

I'm concerned that unless Dolson is really on top of things behind the scenes, we don't have a hire before the portal opens and the coach has a tough time building his year 1 roster. 

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9 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Makes sense. But we just hired a new coach so I'm sure our success is right around the corner

Just to be clear, IU didn't sign Brad Stevens as the new Women's soccer coach, correct? Goodman never mentioned anything about him not being a soccer coach candidate.

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Great point above @DSUMMITT but I also see it as a great evaluation tool for certain coaches, such as Dusty May. "Can you effectively recruit an entire roster in a single year?" Dusty is one of the biggest winners from NIL new coaching jobs, whereas people like Shrewsbury at ND has been hurt from lack of success in navigation of NIL era roster rebuilds. AD's and committees will have to use great discernment in deciphering whether it is the coach struggling with NIL or university regulations/lack of funds causing the failure. 

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47 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I'm not going to speak for the others but I will :-) but I don't think you will see them on here sharing info unless it's Isaac. When we do and then Goodman releases a flimsy statement we get called names, bashed, and everything else. I know AP has been hearing it on the discord, I heard it here every day since last Friday, and RTZ just seems like Jerry staying away till the season gets closer to being over. It's easier to just discuss amongst ourselves. 

 

That's a shame.  You guys are the best part of this board.  But I get it.

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52 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I'm not going to speak for the others but I will :-) but I don't think you will see them on here sharing info unless it's Isaac. When we do and then Goodman releases a flimsy statement we get called names, bashed, and everything else. I know AP has been hearing it on the discord, I heard it here every day since last Friday, and RTZ just seems like Jerry staying away till the season gets closer to being over. It's easier to just discuss amongst ourselves. 

I will continue on the coaching candidate posts because I enjoy it but that's about it. If we don't get our top 2 I like McDermott, OTZ, and McCollum. That's about it for me. I could get used to Drew but the church stuff loses me quickly. Cronin is OK, I think he would win but just not my cup of tea. 

 

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8 minutes ago, GloryDays said:

She also won a title at New Albany with a good friend of mines daughter as a star.

Great coach.

Thier son is the head coach at Corydon don't think he will be as successful as they were

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58 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I'm not going to speak for the others but I will :-) but I don't think you will see them on here sharing info unless it's Isaac. When we do and then Goodman releases a flimsy statement we get called names, bashed, and everything else. I know AP has been hearing it on the discord, I heard it here every day since last Friday, and RTZ just seems like Jerry staying away till the season gets closer to being over. It's easier to just discuss amongst ourselves. 

I will continue on the coaching candidate posts because I enjoy it but that's about it. If we don't get our top 2 I like McDermott, OTZ, and McCollum. That's about it for me. I could get used to Drew but the church stuff loses me quickly. Cronin is OK, I think he would win but just not my cup of tea. 

That's exactly what I would do if I had friends :( (and they knew stuff). Seriously though - I think ITS POSSIBE Goodmans info was pointedly placed to say 'hey shut up - professionally I'm not going to burn a bridge and embarrass or put my current employer in a weird spot - they know it but there's no professional tactical advantage of announcing anything right now til it is 'done''. So pushing it could do harm to negotiations.

Not to mention it's still a fun exercise to debate and evaluate options - for me more fun then watching games sadly enough.....

Edited Wednesday at 05:15 PM by DSUMMITT

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I don't think using the example of UK having to settle for a lesser known coach is comparable to how much difficulty IU will have finding a top coach.  To me, I just think most coaches did not want the UK job because following Calipari and being expected to be better than Cal was very daunting and not worth dealing with the UK fanbase.  Cal set the standards of winning so high, even with his lack of tournament success in the last few years.

Louisville didn't have a Cal, and they did a good job of finding a good coach.  IU had Woodson and Archie.  No coach is going to be intimidated coming to IU.   Can you imagine?  I think we'll do great in getting our guy.  The bar is so low now,  I mean, how can we miss this time?

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31 minutes ago, OGIUAndy said:

I get Drew has the Indiana (state)  ties and he's done very well at Baylor, but he just seems like a really, really, bad fit. I can't believe he's a real candidate. 

He does win a bit more than our administration would like from the men’s basketball program, so I agree.