CSP Posted February 11 Posted February 11 Just now, Uspshoosier said: Loaded deck? Sure. Absolutely given talent.
PartyintheVillas Posted February 11 Posted February 11 1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said: For me people need to stop worrying about moving the needle and hire someone that actually can come in here and build the program back. Cronin would do that. His history says IU would be competing in top half of the conference something IU hasn’t done on a consistent basis in a long time. If your floor as a coach for hiring cycle is Cronin then IU should be just fine. IU as a program is past the quick fix faze in my opinion and that’s where most are getting hung up on. In their opinion IU is a quick fix away from being back on top. I disagree for me IU needs a grinder that brings back a winning culture. If that’s a white whale awesome, if that’s former manager that has proven he can make it to the Final 4 great, however if it’s a grinder like Cronin that turns it around then let’s ride We have won so many off-seasons... we don't need to move the needle, win the press conference, energize the fanbase... we need to hire a coach that wins and has manageable skeletons in their closet. If Cronin had the RMK connection Beard does, some Indiana fans would crawl through glass to hire him. Their resumes are basically equal. Scotty R, mamasa, BGleas and 2 others 5
CSP Posted February 11 Posted February 11 Just now, AH1971 said: What do you mean he's not meeting expectations at UCLA? 1 championship caliber team in 6 years at UCLA is good enough? please don't list meaningless Sw16s, those teams weren't threats to make a serious run at a championship.
AH1971 Posted February 11 Posted February 11 1 minute ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said: Sure. Absolutely given talent. UCLA's NIL is terrible and have very bad fan support for a program with as much accolades as UCLA. He's doing fine there. OKHOOSIER and T White 1 1
Uspshoosier Posted February 11 Posted February 11 Just now, Certified Sunshine Pumper said: 1 championship caliber team in 6 years at UCLA is good enough? please don't list meaningless Sw16s, those teams weren't threats to make a serious run at a championship. Which championship caliber team are you referring to? T White 1
Kentuckysucks Posted February 11 Posted February 11 7 minutes ago, HOOSIERINJURTLAW said: Just out of curiosity, what do fans think is a BIG NAME/HOME RUN? Take Stevens out of the equation, is MAY a big name? Few, Pearl, Beard, Drew just off the top of my head. May is not a big name. IUguy77 1
Juwan Moye Posted February 11 Posted February 11 11 minutes ago, HoosierTrav said: Anyone else share my feeling that this time just feels different compared to the last 4 times? The national media isn’t mocking IU or brushing the job off like usual. They’re actually fluffing it up. There’s a noticeable shift in narrative, with more buzz about how big of a deal this job really is. Dolson is running point….. I don’t know…. I just have a strong intuition that we’re going to land a big name. Yep, NIL has changed everything. J34, Chris007, Napleshoosier and 2 others 5
CSP Posted February 11 Posted February 11 Just now, Uspshoosier said: Which championship caliber team are you referring to? The one he had at UCLA. I don't consider his FF team a championship team. 22-23, though, I do. That team was damn good and had some serious talent. 4 NBA guys and Tyger Campbell. Uspshoosier 1
Uspshoosier Posted February 11 Posted February 11 2 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said: Sure. Absolutely given talent. Their NIL is non existent. Cronin himself had to go out a raise money for NIL. That’s a bad spot to be in as a head coach when you have to basically be the NIL coordinator for your program T White, Napleshoosier and cybergates 2 1
AH1971 Posted February 11 Posted February 11 2 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said: 1 championship caliber team in 6 years at UCLA is good enough? please don't list meaningless Sw16s, those teams weren't threats to make a serious run at a championship. He's been to a F4 and won 31 games as a 2 seed after losing his entire roster. T White and cybergates 2
CSP Posted February 11 Posted February 11 1 minute ago, AH1971 said: UCLA's NIL is terrible and have very bad fan support for a program with as much accolades as UCLA. He's doing fine there. It's not terrible currently. That's been reported, check their transfer class from last year as proof. "he's doing fine there" doesn't equate to me being interested in him being our coach, at all.
CSP Posted February 11 Posted February 11 Just now, Uspshoosier said: Their NIL is non existent. Cronin himself had to go out a raise money for NIL. That’s a bad spot to be in as a head coach when you have to basically be the NIL coordinator for your program It's f'ing LA lol Look how many Top 100 and Top 40 recruits they've had in the last 6 years.
maharkn Posted February 11 Posted February 11 7 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said: For me people need to stop worrying about moving the needle and hire someone that actually can come in here and build the program back. Cronin would do that. His history says IU would be competing in top half of the conference something IU hasn’t done on a consistent basis in a long time. If your floor as a coach for hiring cycle is Cronin then IU should be just fine. IU as a program is past the quick fix faze in my opinion and that’s where most are getting hung up on. In their opinion IU is a quick fix away from being back on top. I disagree for me IU needs a grinder that brings back a winning culture. If that’s a white whale awesome, if that’s former manager that has proven he can make it to the Final 4 great, however if it’s a grinder like Cronin that turns it around then let’s ride I'm going to pass on any coach that whines about travel schedule and openly talks crap about his players. Plus the 16+ million dollar buyout would not be worth it cybergates and CSP 2
CSP Posted February 11 Posted February 11 1 minute ago, AH1971 said: He's been to a F4 and won 31 games as a 2 seed after losing his entire roster. That shouldn't be good enough in a 6 year time frame.
AH1971 Posted February 11 Posted February 11 Just now, Certified Sunshine Pumper said: It's not terrible currently. That's been reported, check their transfer class from last year as proof. "he's doing fine there" doesn't equate to me being interested in him being our coach, at all. He's publicly called out the NIL situation at UCLA. He did fundraising himself which is absolutely wild at a school like UCLA. His floor at IU is a 6 or 7 seed every season. I'm not sure how a single IU fan can turn that down? T White, Juwan Moye, cybergates and 2 others 4 1
Josh Posted February 11 Posted February 11 2 hours ago, Kentuckysucks said: And if Brad or Tracy were seriously negotiating with IU do you really think Brad would go and inform the Celtics brass of that? No one who is thinking of taking another job goes and tells their current employer that until it’s a done deal. Actually, I've gotten a promotion and a raise by doing exactly that. If you bring it to them the right way and they're willing to fight for you, you can win that negotiation J34 and Juwan Moye 2
CSP Posted February 11 Posted February 11 Cronin is 15-14 in the tourney, Beard is 14-6 and would be something like 17-7 or better had he not gotten fired. Strictly talking ball.... I don't have Cronin all that close to Beard. Beard wins at Texas, TTU, and Ole Miss..... Cronin is marginally passing expectations at UCLA. With that... I am out on Beard and Cronin discussions. Juwan Moye 1
Hornsby Posted February 11 Posted February 11 Pretty much every poll says otherwise. 19. Mick Cronin, UCLA Cronin led UCLA to three straight Sweet 16s and the 2021 national title game before a 16-17 season in 2023-24. Don't count on the former longtime Cincinnati coach having back-to-back down years. Even amid the transition to the Big Ten, Cronin appears to have the right mix of returning talent and transfers required to get the Bruins dancing again. (11) 11. Mick Cronin, UCLA Cronin enjoyed excellent roster continuity during his first four years at UCLA as he improved the Bruins' win total each season, culminating with a dominant run to the Pac-12 regular season title last season. Now comes a retooling season that will put his freshman-oriented roster strategy to the test. But given his excellent 21-year track record across Murray State, Cincinnati and UCLA, there is little doubt Cronin will make it work. His teams have qualified for 12 straight NCAA Tournaments. (9) 16. Mick Cronin, UCLA Speaking about not being used to losing seasons, Mick Cronin is in the same boat as Miller. Cronin had a few of them at Cincinnati, but last year was his first since 2007-08. It’s been a long time. I’d also argue that Cronin’s done a very respectable job as the head coach of the Bruins. It’s a position that comes with a lot of pressure and scrutiny, but he’s handled it well and been a very good tournament coach with the Bruins. We are going to end up with someone like Cronin or buzz Williams imo.Sent from my SM-A146U using Tapatalk Juwan Moye 1
AH1971 Posted February 11 Posted February 11 1 minute ago, maharkn said: I'm going to pass on any coach that whines about travel schedule and openly talks crap about his players. Motivational tactic, RMK did the same thing plenty. They're 8-1 since he called his team soft and on a 7 game winning streak. Stuff like that works you know. mamasa, OKHOOSIER, Juwan Moye and 3 others 5 1
SlammySammy Posted February 11 Posted February 11 12 minutes ago, Unexpectedflash said: I wonder if there will be a Cronin and beard argument once a day until we finally get a coach Once every 30 minutes or so, it come back around....
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