General Coach Candidate News

[RaceToTheTop 26,264]

4 hours ago, IndyResident16 said:

True. Brad Stevens denies he even received an offer.

I believe it was Woj who broke the news that IU was prepared to make $70 million/10 year offer. 

One of those has a reason to deny it.  The other doesn't.

Funny how, if he wasn't offered that deal that all of a sudden he moved from being the Celtics coach to the Celtics president with a nice pay raise and no day-to-day coaching and travel that a coach has.

[Kentuckysucks 2,382]

9 minutes ago, IndyResident16 said:

So Stevens went from all but being the IU coach, to Ainge telling him he was retiring, to getting elevated behind closed doors all in the span of 2 hours? lol

I heard the exact same thing from a big time donor.  Told my Dad right after Archie was fired that Stevens was a done deal.

[IU - Kaulie 1,891]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

If I had a daughter I would want to keep them away from people who love Beard so much. It’s really creepy.

I don’t get the Beard love at all.  It’s shocking really.

[Chris007 45,400]

15 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

I’m sorry i just think anyone reporting on Steven’s and IU really doesn’t know anything about the situation.   National people, local IU beat writers or people on a free message board.  My opinion is that only a few people would know the details.   I probably could have worded it better but that’s how I honestly feel about it.  As you said people can believe what they want 

I understand, there was a lot of Steven’s stuff out there. If I didn’t know someone in the room I’m not sure I would believe it either. And yes everyone should believe what they want. All good

[IndyResident16 567]

9 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

One of those has a reason to deny it.  The other doesn't.

Funny how, if he wasn't offered that deal that all of a sudden he moved from being the Celtics coach to the Celtics president with a nice pay raise and no day-to-day coaching and travel that a coach has.

He wasn’t all of the sudden elevated to that job, that’s why you don’t understand. He was elevated 3 months after the fact in June. 
 

At the very best case scenario for the Stevens kool-aid drinkers on this forum, Stevens got a dollar figure from IU for pure contract leverage down the road. He never considered taking the IU job and IU was never seriously going to pay him $70mil. 

[Kentuckysucks 2,382]

11 minutes ago, IU - Kaulie said:

I don’t get the Beard love at all.  It’s shocking really.

He wins big and fast.  We are starved for a winner.  Blame it all on the administration.  They way they've handled the basketball program the past 24 years doesn't even seem like incompetence.  It seems more like sabotage.

[Muskie for three 307]

21 minutes ago, IndyResident16 said:

Took over 12-18 UALR; went 30-5 year 1 and won NCAAT game

Took over dumpster fire TT; E8 year 2 and OT away from winning the national title in year 3

Hired at Texas; ranked #2 in the country at the time of firing for a team that was a game away from the F4

Took over 12-21 Ole Miss; 15-2 and nationally ranked w 9 new players in year 1

And you want to talk about double digit losses? You’re delusional.

They still talk about him in San Angelo he was kinda infamous there for his off court actions . I say  hire him . He will win but don't cry when he is passed out drunk on walnut street with a hooker . I'm all about second and third chances .

[IndyResident16 567]

@Chris007

and for the record, Danny Ainge didn’t “retire” as some plan to name Brad Stevens his successor. He was forced out by the organization and allowed to “retire” to save face. He literally took the same position with the Jazz three months later. 

[Chris007 45,400]

7 minutes ago, IndyResident16 said:

He wasn’t all of the sudden elevated to that job, that’s why you don’t understand. He was elevated 3 months after the fact in June. 
 

At the very best case scenario for the Stevens kool-aid drinkers on this forum, Stevens got a dollar figure from IU for pure contract leverage down the road. He never considered taking the IU job and IU was never seriously going to pay him $70mil. 

IU was only paying 3.5 of the 7 million a year contract. Mr. Pfau was paying the other 3.5. Just like he’s paying the majority of the new football coaches salary. 

[Scotty R 2,247]

Was there actually proof that Stevens was actually offered or showed any interest at all. The only place I saw anything was on message boards by so called insiders.

[Home Jersey 8,516]

9 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

He wins big and fast.  We are starved for a winner.  Blame it all on the administration.  They way they've handled the basketball program the past 24 years doesn't even seem like incompetence.  It seems more like sabotage.

I'm not directing this at you or denying that we're starved for a winner and the admin has botched the past quarter century. 

There are still better head coaching candidates out there for IU than Chris Beard. Just because he is most obvious (to some) does not mean anyone who opposes him is complicit in IUBB's mediocrity. It's not "holier than thou" to maintain standards that include not harboring a domestic abuser as long as he wins basketball games. 

No, I won't blame the administration for people fiercely advocating for Chris Beard. They can own the fact that they don't care if he drunkenly beats a hundred women as long as they get to hang a banner for their favorite basketball team. 

We can win with other guys. He's no leader of men, especially young men. It's not about second chances... and he's already had plenty of opportunities. DV is rarely an isolated incident. It usually escalates. Can you imagine if, god forbid, the unthinkable happened ... in Bloomington? Is it "holier than thou" to want no part of such a scenario that is statistically a non-insignificant possibility? 

If that's holier than thou. So be it... the rest of us will pray for ya'll. 

[Chris007 45,400]

1 minute ago, IndyResident16 said:

@Chris007

and for the record, Danny Ainge didn’t “retire” as some plan to name Brad Stevens his successor. He was forced out by the organization and allowed to “retire” to save face. He literally took the same position with the Jazz three months later. 

You might be right about that, which would be a first tonight. I don’t follow the Celtics, but I know IU.

[IndyResident16 567]

2 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

IU was only paying 3.5 of the 7 million a year contract. Mr. Pfau was paying the other 3.5. Just like he’s paying the majority of the new football coaches salary. 

So IU had a donor willing to commit $35million to the next coach and they ended up with Mike Woodson? Sometime I really don’t even think you believe the things you say.

[Home Jersey 8,516]

4 minutes ago, IndyResident16 said:

@Chris007

and for the record, Danny Ainge didn’t “retire” as some plan to name Brad Stevens his successor. He was forced out by the organization and allowed to “retire” to save face. He literally took the same position with the Jazz three months later. 

... and please tell us why Danny Ainge, highly regarded NBA executive and long-time presence in Celtics FO was suddenly "forced out" as you put it? Because the Celtics took Stevens over Ainge. Stevens had leverage. Where'd he get it from?

[IndyResident16 567]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

You might be right about that, which would be a first tonight. I don’t follow the Celtics, but I know IU.

That completely flips your narrative that Stevens was tipped off by Ainge and named his successor. Lame duck management doesn’t get to name their replacement. You’re all over the place.

[Scotty R 2,247]

5 hours ago, Chris007 said:

If he had no interest why did he meet with them in secret so many times? There is no reason to rehash this but there was interest

Where is the proof that ever happened. I am not buying everything that said on a message board.

I have heard plenty of interviews by people that know Brad and they all said Brad has no desire to coach college again.

[Banksyrules 4,887]

I can't believe we're rehashing this.  Like somehow IU had any power in this process. In my opinion we do need a complete overhaul of IU athletics administration department but it takes two to tango.  Let it go guys lol. 

[Alford Bailey 12,415]

Just now, IndyResident16 said:

That completely flips your narrative that Stevens was tipped off by Ainge and named his successor. Lame duck management doesn’t get to name their replacement. You’re all over the place.

One guy has long term credibility in this argument and then there’s you…

[IU - Kaulie 1,891]

5 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

I'm not directing this at you or denying that we're starved for a winner and the admin has botched the past quarter century. 

There are still better head coaching candidates out there for IU than Chris Beard. Just because he is most obvious (to some) does not mean anyone who opposes him is complicit in IUBB's mediocrity. It's not "holier than thou" to maintain standards that include not harboring a domestic abuser as long as he wins basketball games. 

No, I won't blame the administration for people fiercely advocating for Chris Beard. They can own the fact that they don't care if he drunkenly beats a hundred women as long as they get to hang a banner for their favorite basketball team. 

We can win with other guys. He's no leader of men, especially young men. It's not about second chances... and he's already had plenty of opportunities. DV is rarely an isolated incident. It usually escalates. Can you imagine if, god forbid, the unthinkable happened ... in Bloomington? Is it "holier than thou" to want no part of such a scenario that is statistically a non-insignificant possibility? 

If that's holier than thou. So be it... the rest of us will pray for ya'll. 

This is actually really well said.  Kudos.

[IU - Kaulie 1,891]

15 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

He wins big and fast.  We are starved for a winner.  Blame it all on the administration.  They way they've handled the basketball program the past 24 years doesn't even seem like incompetence.  It seems more like sabotage.

He would never win anything here.