NashvilleHoosier Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 15 minutes ago, str8baller said: That makes very little sense. “Nobody watches them so we have to have them so they put us on tv, cause nobody watches them!” You're correct that it makes very little sense if you believe they were going after the Rutgers fanbase/viewers. My point is they were not going after the Rutgers viewership. They were going after the media market that included a very large number of collective alumni from Big Ten universities. Rutgers was the avenue to that. I don't know why, but for some reason I thought this was in the Ledlum thread so I didn't care about derailing. Being in the portal thread, I'm happy to drop it and agree to disagree. Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 1 hour ago, btownqb said: Ziesloft didn't play with any post presence. Spacing was tough on this group because of the lack of skill sets. Kopp stood in the corner to stretch the defense the most. It's also significant to note that Zeisloft made 37% of his threes at Illinois State his freshman and sophomore year but 43% his junior and senior years at IU despite tougher competition. There is something to be said for multiple shooters making each other better. Ngw7183, pumpfake, CSP and 2 others 4 1 Quote
woodenshoemanHoosierfan Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 What is hillbilly about Knoxville? Tennessee supports its sports programs across the board, it isn't just about football. Every time we lose out on someone, people feel the need to make the team we lost to inferior to us. Knoxville is FAR from Hillbilly. Sent from my SM-S908U using Tapatalk CSP, Ngw7183 and Tom White 3 Quote
woodenshoemanHoosierfan Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 Another point that has been made: many of the truly best portal transfers commit late, late, late. After or about May 1st last year, the following players were in the portal and still uncommitted: Tyrese Hunter Terrence Shannon Grant Sherfield Ricky Council Jr. Keion Brooks Keyontae Johnson Courtney Ramey Matthew Mayer Kevin McCullar Kendric Davis (on 4/29) Isiaih Mosely Norchad Omier (on 4/26) Baylor Scheierman Logic means nothing.Sent from my SM-S908U using Tapatalk CSP 1 Quote
woodenshoemanHoosierfan Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 HE did that? lol No. He fouled Jayson Williams and about got us beat. That's what he did. He was an average role player, and started hitting 3 as a SR. Dane had a disappointing career for what he was billed as. Fife started every game SO-SR... check his stats and compare them to TG. He was talking about Davis not Fife Sent from my SM-S908U using Tapatalk CSP 1 Quote
Golfman25 Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 22 minutes ago, woodenshoemanHoosierfan said: Every time we lose out on someone, people feel the need to make the team we loss to inferior to us. Knoxville is FAR from Hillbilly. Sent from my SM-S908U using Tapatalk It's literally in the hills of Appalachia. :) Quote
woodenshoemanHoosierfan Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 It's literally in the hills of Appalachia. :) And?Sent from my SM-S908U using Tapatalk Tom White and CSP 2 Quote
bigrod Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 It's 4/20. Maybe we should just all "chill out" a bit :) thebigweave, MikeRoberts, Chris007 and 3 others 3 1 2 Quote
CSP Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, Golfman25 said: It's literally in the hills of Appalachia. :) Even as "not like the rest of Southern Indiana" as Bloomington is... it's entirely more "hillbilly" than Knoxville. Quote
NVFalcons1990 Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 1 minute ago, bigrod said: It's 4/20. Maybe we should just all "chill out" a bit :) Under appreciated comment :) Chris007, bird4par, bigrod and 1 other 4 Quote
HoosierAloha Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 34 minutes ago, btownqb said: I have no idea. Where? I agree, Z had more of wiggle to him. He could contort his body more effectively than Kopp can during a shot attempt. Plus again, his trigger is just miles quicker. I don't look at recruit rankings, basically ever. And yes, of course, it was a more modern team, but again.. PLENTY of ppl on here HATED it.. That isn't news, and it isn't some knock on Woodson and staff that you think it is. You don't remember "we shoot too many 3s" or "live by the 3, die by the 3" comments during the Crean years? Good description, was having a difficult time describing the differences. I don't think Zeisloft was even that wiggly or slippery either it's just that Kopp stood there a good portion of the time. I didn't like that we were so reliant on the 3 but didn't like that we basically never shot it this past season. There is a balance for the season, game to game, and even within a game. thebigweave and MikeRoberts 1 1 Quote
HoosierAloha Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Scotty R said: There isn't just 1 thing that has contributed to us not winning like we want to. First thing I blame was President Herbert making the AD hire Sampson over Beilein I blame RMK not being able to control himself I blame the AF for hiring Miller who I was against hiring in the first place. I blame fans for turning on coaches to early which I believe effects recruiting. I think over zealous fans contacting recruits on social media isn't helpful A quick list of people - President - Coach - AD (I think?) - Fans What order would you put those in? Quote
CSP Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 11 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said: Good description, was having a difficult time describing the differences. I don't think Zeisloft was even that wiggly or slippery either it's just that Kopp stood there a good portion of the time. I didn't like that we were so reliant on the 3 but didn't like that we basically never shot it this past season. There is a balance for the season, game to game, and even within a game. Ehh.. I loved the way Creans teams played. Wanted a better defensive version of them, but the way they played offense was absolutely awesome. woodenshoemanHoosierfan, Ghost of Rick Majerus and Ngw7183 3 Quote
BGleas Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 52 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said: It's also significant to note that Zeisloft made 37% of his threes at Illinois State his freshman and sophomore year but 43% his junior and senior years at IU despite tougher competition. There is something to be said for multiple shooters making each other better. And having 5 future NBA players around you that the defense is focused on. That team had way more talent than this years, it's not really close. MikeRoberts, Ngw7183, HoosierAloha and 3 others 6 Quote
HoosierAloha Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, btownqb said: Ehh.. I loved the way Creans teams played. Wanted a better defensive version of them, but the way they played offense was absolutely awesome. Loved the spacing and pacing, transition was great, and defense left a lot to be desired. I didn't like that we were turrrrble against certain types of teams or would just fall flat in half court sets at times. I was hoping we'd see a more dynamic offense under Woody. str8baller 1 Quote
HoosierAloha Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, BGleas said: And having 5 future NBA players around you that the defense is focused on. That team had way more talent than this years, it's not really close. NBA championship if JBJ doesn't go down. Quote
BGleas Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said: NBA championship if JBJ doesn't go down. We actually got better after he went down but I get what you're doing. Tom White, thebigweave and Chris007 3 Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 9 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said: NBA championship if JBJ doesn't go down. IU would most definitely not have been NBA champions even with JBJ. jonz44 and Tom White 2 Quote
Stuhoo Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 IMO? A little sarcasm now and then can be good - like adding salt to food. But too much salt makes it inedible. cthomas, BGleas, Chris007 and 4 others 6 1 Quote
CSP Posted April 20, 2023 Posted April 20, 2023 21 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said: Loved the spacing and pacing, transition was great, and defense left a lot to be desired. I didn't like that we were turrrrble against certain types of teams or would just fall flat in half court sets at times. I was hoping we'd see a more dynamic offense under Woody. We need more dynamic personnel. But, we're no less than a 3 seed year two if XJ isn't hurt. More than pleased with that with how poor the roster was under Archie/how bad it was when he left. We had a good season. First time we can say that in awhile. RaceToTheTop 1 Quote
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