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[HoosierX]

4 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

How in the world is 76 percent from the line not that special

How in the world is it?

[IU Scott]

1 minute ago, HoosierX said:

How in the world is it?

I would bet that would rank pretty high in IU history for free throw percentage

[Dillion]

I just hope the people knocking Dennis for his 3 point percentage are also not on the Mike Davis son bandwagon. He doesn’t have a great 3 point percentage but most on here are labeling him as a shooter.


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[Hoosierfan2017]

27 minutes ago, Dillion said:

I just hope the people knocking Dennis for his 3 point percentage are also not on the Mike Davis son bandwagon. He doesn’t have a great 3 point percentage but most on here are labeling him as a shooter.


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He shot 38% on 10.3 attempts per game last season. And he shot 88% from the line. I won’t pretend to be a Horizon league expert or act like I know what that level of competition is, but I don’t think there are many players in college basketball who could replicate those percentages on that volume. 

[Dillion]

He shot 38% on 10.3 attempts per game last season. 

So just about the same percentage as Dennis career? Also what’s his career percentage? 36%? I stand by what I said. Most on here have been saying 38% isn’t a great shooter and not what this team needs.


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[JSHoosier]

29 minutes ago, Dillion said:

I just hope the people knocking Dennis for his 3 point percentage are also not on the Mike Davis son bandwagon. He doesn’t have a great 3 point percentage but most on here are labeling him as a shooter.


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His percentage would be the best on the team.

[Chris007]

1 hour ago, BGleas said:

Would love it to happen, as it would help both JG and the team be more versatile, but he is going to have to improve a lot on both ends to be a wing player. 

He's really bad defensively on the perimeter at this stage, much worse then Kopp, and of course we know the offensive improvements he needs to make. 

Hope it happens, and I'm a JG fan, love him as an athletic 4 on both ends, but he needs a lot of work to be a true wing player. 

You are 100% correct. I’m glad we have options. 

[JSHoosier]

5 minutes ago, Dillion said:

So just about the same percentage as Dennis career? Also what’s his career percentage? 36%? I stand by what I said. Most on here have been saying 38% isn’t a great shooter and not what this team needs.


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Dennis's career is 34%.  Davis is career 36% and 88% from the stripe.  They are not about the same.  Davis is about the same shooter as Kopp over his career.

[Hovadipo]

15 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

His percentage would be the best on the team.

I thought that wasn’t impressive though…

[RaceToTheTop]

2 hours ago, Chris007 said:

We have a long way to go but he's doing his part right now.

I would he can fit in as a combo forward, splitting time between the 3 and 4

[JSHoosier]

8 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

I thought that wasn’t impressive though…

Did I say it was or that I wanted him?  No.  For his career he's essentially Miller Kopp.  Just pointing out he's a better shooter than Dexter Dennis, which isn't a high standard.

[Dillion]

Dennis's career is 34%.  Davis is career 36% and 88% from the stripe.  They are not about the same.  Davis is about the same shooter as Kopp over his career.

I’m sorry but if that 2% increase is moving the needle for anyone then IDK what to say. Not to mention the HUGE gap in defensive abilities Dennis has. All I’m saying is you can’t hype Davis up as a shooter when his numbers say otherwise, then argue the counterpoint with others when they are practically the same. Which isn’t a great percentage.


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[Chris007]

1 minute ago, RaceToTheTop said:

I would he can fit in as a combo forward, splitting time between the 3 and 4

I think that would be a perfect fit for him.

[Hoosierfan2017]

38 minutes ago, Dillion said:

So just about the same percentage as Dennis career? Also what’s his career percentage? 36%? I stand by what I said. Most on here have been saying 38% isn’t a great shooter and not what this team needs.


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What? Dennis shot 30% on 4.4 3pt attempts per game last year and shot 78.7% from the line. That’s not close to Davis's percentages. And if you look at Davis's career numbers, he had one season where he shot 32% from 3 - his sophomore season. His other 3 seasons he’s been 38% (on 11.6 attempts); 37% (on 10.1 attempts); and 38% (on 10.3 attempts). He was 5th in the country in 3pt makes last year. You’re not shooting 38% from 3 on 10+ attempts if you aren’t a good shooter.

And show me where all the people saying 38% isn’t a good 3 pt percentage are. If Dennis shot 38% from 3 I’d be all aboard the hype train. That’d be fantastic. 

[JSHoosier]

Just now, Dillion said:

I’m sorry but if that 2% increase is moving the needle for anyone then IDK what to say. Not to mention the HUGE gap in defensive abilities Dennis has. All I’m saying is you can’t hype Davis up as a shooter when his numbers say otherwise, then argue the counterpoint with others when they are practically the same. Which isn’t a great percentage.


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I didn't say I wanted Davis or that he's a great shooter.  He's basically Kopp, decent but not particularly good.  Just that Dennis is worse.

[Dillion]

What? Dennis shot 30% on 4.4 3pt attempts per game last year and shot 78.7% from the line. That’s not close to Davis's percentages. And if you look at Davis's career numbers, he had one season where he shot 32% from 3 - his sophomore season. His other 3 seasons he’s been 38% (on 11.6 attempts); 37% (on 10.1 attempts); and 38% (on 10.3 attempts). You’re not shooting 38% from 3 on 10+ attempts if you aren’t a good shooter.
And show me where all the people saying 38% isn’t a good 3 pt percentage are. If Dennis shot 38% from 3 I’d be all aboard the hype train. That’d be fantastic. 

I mean the average of those number would be 36.25% for his career correct? And I’m not sure how many he attempted per game matters it’s still the same percentage whether he took 20 or 3 shots per game. Dennis is 2% points behind him for his career. Which might amount to what maybe 1-3 extra made 3 a year?


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[Dillion]

I didn't say I wanted Davis or that he's a great shooter.  He's basically Kopp, decent but not particularly good.  Just that Dennis is worse.

I wasn’t really referencing you or anyone really. You just happened to respond to my post.


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[Hoosierfan2017]

13 minutes ago, Dillion said:

I mean the average of those number would be 36.25% for his career correct? And I’m not sure how many he attempted per game matters it’s still the same percentage whether he took 20 or 3 shots per game. Dennis is 2% points behind him for his career. Which might amount to what maybe 1-3 extra made 3 a year?


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Davis made 3.9 threes per game last year. IU made 5.9 threes per game last year. If you don’t understand the significance of volume then idk what to tell you… Shooting 38% on 10 attempts per game is much harder than shooting 38% on 4 attempts per game. Good shooters are able to maintain good percentages when they increase their volume. 

I don’t even know why this became a comparison between the two. Dennis has good qualities. Shooting isn’t one of them. Antonio Davis is a good shooter and the numbers reflect that. His freshman year he broke Steph Curry’s record for 3s in a season by a freshman. If Dennis had Davis’s shooting ability he’d probably be heading to the league. 

[Dillion]

Davis made 3.9 threes per game last year. IU made 5.9 threes per game last year. If you don’t understand the significance of volume then idk what to tell you… Shooting 38% on 10 attempts per game is much harder than shooting 38% on 4 attempts per game. Good shooters are able to maintain good percentages when they increase their volume. 
I don’t even know why this became a comparison between the two. Dennis has good qualities. Shooting isn’t one of them. Antonio Davis is a good shooter and the numbers reflect that. His freshman year he broke Steph Curry’s record for 3s in a season by a freshman. If Dennis had Davis’s shooting ability he’d probably be heading to the league. 

The more you shoot the more chance you have to make more of them right? So yeah volume does matter. I haven’t looked at numbers but I’d say IU as a team averaged somewhere close to 10 attempts per game as a team. I’m just saying his percentage isn’t great for a dude labeled as a shooter. It’s basically the same percentage for his career as Dennis yet he is labeled a non shooter. Doesn’t make much sense to me.


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[Hoosierfan2017]

26 minutes ago, Dillion said:

The more you shoot the more chance you have to make more of them right? So yeah volume does matter. I haven’t looked at numbers but I’d say IU as a team averaged somewhere close to 10 attempts per game as a team. I’m just saying his percentage isn’t great for a dude labeled as a shooter. It’s basically the same percentage for his career as Dennis yet he is labeled a non shooter. Doesn’t make much sense to me.


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It doesn’t make sense to you because you aren’t trying to understand it. Dennis is a career 34.4% shooter from 3. He’s shot under that 3 of his 4 seasons in college. The last time he shot higher than 33.6% from 3 in a season Juwan Morgan was on our team. His 3 pt shot has gotten worse every year he’s been in college, to the point that he shot 29.7% from 3 last season. If you don’t know why people see a guy shooting 29.7% from 3 on 4.4 attempts differently than they do a guy shooting 37.9% from 3 on 10.3 attempts, I don’t know what to tell you.