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2 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

Agree with your first point completely.

As for your second point? I'm pretty sure that in the 'good old days' when Keith Smart and Dean Garrett parachuted into Bloomington, "developed" three year or more players like Todd Meier, Magnus Pelkowski, Steve Eyl, Kreigh Smith, and Brian Sloan thought to themselves; "Sh!t, I guess I'm not playing much this year after all."  And if the transfer rules didn't require them to sit out a year to play their senior year? It's a reasonable assumption that a few of them would have been gonzo.

Steve Eyl played plenty even after those two came here. The rest of those guys  were pretty much like Leal

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6 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

Steve Eyl played plenty even after those two came here. The rest of those guys  were pretty much like Leal

If I remember right, Kreigh Smith played some and Sloan got on the court because he was willing to screen for shooters.   But they weren’t the caliber of players as Garrett and Smart so they accepted their roles

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4 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

If I remember right, Kreigh Smith played some and Sloan got on the court because he was willing to screen for shooters.   But they weren’t the caliber of players as Garrett and Smart so they accepted their roles

Sloan didn't play much until the 88 and 89 seasons. I have watched a little  of the old games from the then and the first only time Smith or Meier came in was at the end of the first half due to foul problems 

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3 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Brian Sloan played more after those two came, not less.

Sloan didn't play much at all in the 86-87 season. It was the next two years that he played the most

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1 hour ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Kentucky Insiders convinced Reeves is coming back to UK now as things have changed.

Sounds like Hart or Hold at 12 if that’s the case.


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Maybe.  Sounds like Kentucky is trying to form a collective (can't believe they didn't already have one).   But there are suitors out there....Indiana and Illinois among them.  Reeves can bide his time.

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12 hours ago, Josh said:

I believe Purdoo has that term trademarked

Trademark? Don’t know for sure.

But after 3 straight losses to double-digit seeds - including the arguably WORST loss in the history of the NCAA Tournament - they certainly are monopolizing the term. 

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16 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Kentucky Insiders convinced Reeves is coming back to UK now as things have changed.

Sounds like Hart or Hold at 12 if that’s the case.


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Yup. Reeves heading back to UK in a crazy turn of events. From what I gathered, Reeves did not want to go back but Cal must’ve backed the Brinks truck up with this “non-collective” collective.

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1 hour ago, BGVille Hoosierfan said:

Yup. Reeves heading back to UK in a crazy turn of events. From what I gathered, Reeves did not want to go back but Cal must’ve backed the Brinks truck up with this “non-collective” collective.

So, are we in the 'roll with what we got' mode now?

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1 hour ago, cthomas said:

So, are we in the 'roll with what we got' mode now?

Over the weekend Hart’s interviews told us a couple things:

1. He liked IU but IU was slow playing him pending other targets, and

2. He planned to decide very soon.

But he hasn’t announced yet, and the two targets everyone presumed IU had above him, Reeves and Wilcher, are now off the board (or were never on it, if the folk telling of the Reeves saga is true).

If he wanted to go to UK or Rutger, I think he’d have committed by now.

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Over the weekend Hart’s interviews told us a couple things:
1. He liked IU but IU was slow playing him pending other targets, and
2. He planned to decide very soon.
But he hasn’t announced yet, and the two targets everyone presumed IU had above him, Reeves and Wilcher, are now off the board (or were never on it, if the folk telling of the Reeves saga is true).
If he wanted to go to UK or Rutger, I think he’d have committed by now.

Reeves drama still continuing from UK side. They are less confident today.


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6 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:


Reeves drama still continuing from UK side. They are less confident today.


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Rupp Rafters makes Peegs look sane.  They've went through about eight cycles with Reeves from 'the sky is falling if he goes and Cal sucks' to 'Reeves is coming back and anyone who said he was leaving is a moron' and then 'Reeves isn't taking classes at Illinois State, that's just a rumor' then 'he's taking classes there but isn't leaving' then 'he's taking classes there and he's either headed to the Big Ten or Memphis and Cal sucks again'.  Now they posted a video from a talking head saying that 'Cal is holding him hostage since he can't go anywhere until he graduates'.  However, the overall sentiment is that they need him (if they think he's coming back) or they don't need him (if he's leaving).....but to a man, the posters think Cal sucks and he's outstayed his welcome.

Anyway, the Rupp Rafters board seem to read into the 'insiders' what they wanted to.  Jack Pilgram is the insider (Kentucky guy) who has provided the most info, and what he basically had been saying up until 48 hours ago was that Reeves was leaving.  Then yesterday he said that it was looking more likely that Reeves was coming back and then Cal had changed his mind on some things (in regards to a collective).  People starting running with this and said that Reeves coming back and would be announcing within 24 to 48 hours.  But I don't think those thoughts are coming from people in the know.  Could be wrong, maybe he announces tomorrow that he is coming back to UK, but Reeves can play the long game IMO and wait for UK to either up their NIL or wait to get his classes completed and go the grad transfer route late in the summer.  At that point, he is going to be THE most valuable player available.

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Rupp Rafters makes Peegs look sane.  They've went through about eight cycles with Reeves from 'the sky is falling if he goes and Cal sucks' to 'Reeves is coming back and anyone who said he was leaving is a moron' and then 'Reeves isn't taking classes at Illinois State, that's just a rumor' then 'he's taking classes there but isn't leaving' then 'he's taking classes there and he's either headed to the Big Ten or Memphis and Cal sucks again'.  Now they posted a video from a talking head saying that 'Cal is holding him hostage since he can't go anywhere until he graduates'.  However, the overall sentiment is that they need him (if they think he's coming back) or they don't need him (if he's leaving).....but to a man, the posters think Cal sucks and he's outstayed his welcome.
Anyway, the Rupp Rafters board seem to read into the 'insiders' what they wanted to.  Jack Pilgram is the insider (Kentucky guy) who has provided the most info, and what he basically had been saying up until 48 hours ago was that Reeves was leaving.  Then yesterday he said that it was looking more likely that Reeves was coming back and then Cal had changed his mind on some things (in regards to a collective).  People starting running with this and said that Reeves coming back and would be announcing within 24 to 48 hours.  But I don't think those thoughts are coming from people in the know.  Could be wrong, maybe he announces tomorrow that he is coming back to UK, but Reeves can play the long game IMO and wait for UK to either up their NIL or wait to get his classes completed and go the grad transfer route late in the summer.  At that point, he is going to be THE most valuable player available.

My head hurts.

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