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3 hours ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

I think Johnson is going to have the second biggest impact on this team after TJD. 

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Any numbers right now on the number of players in the transfer portal who have not committed yet?  Seems like lately they number of players in the portal who are committing compared to those who are just entering is leaning heavy toward those committing.

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De'Vion Harmon, 6'2" guard from Oklahoma, enters the portal.  Second leading scorer for the Sooners, averaged 13 points, 3 1/2 rebounds, and 2 assists.  Shot 48% from the field and 33%.  Team mate Alondes Williams also joined the transfer pool; averaged 7 points and 3 rebounds in 19 minutes.  6'5" wing -- not known for shooting.

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JSHoosier said: 'Kentucky listed twice, are they pulling a Tom Crean telling him they're thinking about him a lot lately?"

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Kentucky has twice the chance of landing Harmon as anyone else. 

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8 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Guess we are truly going after another SG.

Staff must really lack faith in our guards.

We have Leal, Galloway, Phin, Lander, Stewart, XJ. 6 guards already.

I guess we should prepare for 3 guard lineups.


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I think Woodson is going to want to get up and down the floor but also push everyone on the roster. You don't want to give it your all? Then there is someone behind you that will and we won't miss a beat. I'm 100% fine if Leal and Galloway dont play much. We have 4 more years of them. 

 

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I think Woodson is going to want to get up and down the floor but also push everyone on the roster. You don't want to give it your all? Then there is someone behind you that will and we won't miss a beat. I'm 100% fine if Leal and Galloway dont play much. We have 4 more years of them. 
 

I really hope that with a fast paced offense, we could see more full court pressure. Like after every made basket, press immediately. That’s just me. I love when team press.


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26 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Guess we are truly going after another SG.

Staff must really lack faith in our guards.

We have Leal, Galloway, Phin, Lander, Stewart, XJ. 6 guards already.

I guess we should prepare for 3 guard lineups.


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Most teams play three guard lineups.  Anyway, Woodson has said he wanted to add a shooting guard and a combo forward.  If that occurs, our frontcourt would be TJD, Duncomb, Hunter, Race, Geronimo, and TBD.  

Leal, IMO, is as much of a small forward as he is a guard.  Same for Galloway.  Neither are going to be asked to handle the ball that much.  Stewart will likely be in alongside two other guards sometimes and he's 6'5"....big enough to handle the SF position.

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Most teams play three guard lineups.  Anyway, Woodson has said he wanted to add a shooting guard and a combo forward.  If that occurs, our frontcourt would be TJD, Duncomb, Hunter, Race, Geronimo, and TBD.  
Leal, IMO, is as much of a small forward as he is a guard.  Same for Galloway.  Neither are going to be asked to handle the ball that much.  Stewart will likely be in alongside two other guards sometimes and he's 6'5"....big enough to handle the SF position.

I guess.

I’d rather a Geronimo (Troy Williams) type player be our 3. A TJD be our 4 or 5, and another similar player to TJD be our 5. Then give me 2 guards that are triple threats.

Playing Leals or Galloways at the 3 isn’t ideal. I really soured on Galloway last season. Can’t shoot at all. Nice driver, but that doesn’t work well at his size and skills against B1G quality players. Leal, at least, might be able to shoot it consistently. But lacking that much size and athleticism at your 3 spot especially when neither guy has an elite skill isn’t a recipe for success.


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I have some early concerns with the whole portal thing, development Vs chasing portal players. 
Guys like Galloway (shooting needs development), Hunter (develop D), etc. have maybe a shorter timeline to develop. Do want to see team improvement through the portal, don’t want to see NBA-style trade market.

A guy like Vic couldn’t shoot early, shot like in the 20’s from deep, junior year shot plus 40 percent from the arc. Any reference to Vic is kind of the outlier because of his huge strides in development, but the signs were there, elite athleticism and D to go with good free throw form and steady development, lots of promise.

Vic is an outlier but there are lots of guys with high level talent and upside that can get passed over in this shiny new thing approach to team building. 
Galloway is an exceptional player with a strong work ethic, really good floor vision and downhill skill. Absolutely needs to develop a shot, but really should have that opportunity on what he has shown as a player before running into the portal, imo - long rant but seeing early signs of a shiny new thing instead of development approach

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1 hour ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Guess we are truly going after another SG.

Staff must really lack faith in our guards.

We have Leal, Galloway, Phin, Lander, Stewart, XJ. 6 guards already.

I guess we should prepare for 3 guard lineups.


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Bring in some one that can help right away and Red-shirt one or two of these guys for the future. If they aren't gonna play, why not?

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I think in my ideal lineup the 3 is a Troy Williams/Geronimo/OG type who can shoot, finish at the rim, wreak havoc on defense. It’s hard to find those guys, though, and if they can’t hit 3s they’ve gotta be 4s.

Also, lots of times those guys are best at the 4 anyway, because they play big enough to let you put more shooting out...by playing a 3rd guard. (If either your 4 or 5 can bang 3s and guard well, too, it’s less of an issue).

There aren’t many college teams who can really hurt you if you play a 6’5” guard at the three and take a 6’8” forward off the floor. The equation changes if you’re rolling out two guys who barely clear 6’ though.

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2 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:


I guess.

I’d rather a Geronimo (Troy Williams) type player be our 3. A TJD be our 4 or 5, and another similar player to TJD be our 5. Then give me 2 guards that are triple threats.

Playing Leals or Galloways at the 3 isn’t ideal. I really soured on Galloway last season. Can’t shoot at all. Nice driver, but that doesn’t work well at his size and skills against B1G quality players. Leal, at least, might be able to shoot it consistently. But lacking that much size and athleticism at your 3 spot especially when neither guy has an elite skill isn’t a recipe for success.


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I'm not as high on Geronimo as most here.  At least, I'm not sold on his ability to shoot.  10 three point shots isn't much to gauge a guy on and his 5 of 18 from the line says to me there might be some mechanical issues that will show up with a larger sample size.  That said, he's a plus rebounder for his size and is capable of defending the 3 and 4.

That said, I'm higher on Jerome Hunter than most.

In terms of Galloway, I wouldn't sleep on him improving.  Kid is an absolutely worker who will absorb coaching.

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1 hour ago, HoosierHoopster said:

I have some early concerns with the whole portal thing, development Vs chasing portal players. 
Guys like Galloway (shooting needs development), Hunter (develop D), etc. have maybe a shorter timeline to develop. Do want to see team improvement through the portal, don’t want to see NBA-style trade market.

A guy like Vic couldn’t shoot early, shot like in the 20’s from deep, junior year shot plus 40 percent from the arc. Any reference to Vic is kind of the outlier because of his huge strides in development, but the signs were there, elite athleticism and D to go with good free throw form and steady development, lots of promise.

Vic is an outlier but there are lots of guys with high level talent and upside that can get passed over in this shiny new thing approach to team building. 
Galloway is an exceptional player with a strong work ethic, really good floor vision and downhill skill. Absolutely needs to develop a shot, but really should have that opportunity on what he has shown as a player before running into the portal, imo - long rant but seeing early signs of a shiny new thing instead of development approach

Not disputing your premise as I agree with the idea of developing who you have but how can we know if Galloway has a strong work ethic?  Seems a great kid and I don’t have any reason to suspect he isn’t willing to work but I don’t know that I have seen anything to say he has a great work ethic. 

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1 minute ago, 8bucks said:

Not disputing your premise as I agree with the idea of developing who you have but how can we know if Galloway has a strong work ethic?  Seems a great kid and I don’t have any reason to suspect he isn’t willing to work but I don’t know that I have seen anything to say he has a great work ethic. 

I’m going from early practice feedback from players and the way he developed over the first half of the season to work his way into a starting role for a bit. Then teams scouted him and sagged off and he couldn’t hit shots, and maybe he hit that freshman wall. I think his work ethic is there just needs a lot of work on his shot, mechanic is off. If he can develop a shot ....

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