Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 I’m with you on all of this except Brunk. We need a big that Brunk can be the backup for. Or play Trayce and RaceSent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appI like Brunk and he works in certain games. But other games, he’s just not an asset. Like against Maryland, he clearly wasn’t going to be able to defend Jalen Smith. He’s a good backup center and should be a 10-15 minute a game guy. And hopefully Race can improve his 3pt shooting because we need a stretch 4 to force Archie to change his offense. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 4 hours ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said: Al peaked as a Sophomore. It was clear what kind of player he was. A backup. He’s just not good enough to be in the role Archie tried forcing. He should be waiting to shoot 3’s, not a ball handler, playmaker or featured scorer. Because he’s not good at it. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app And now you've just owned yourself. Al was not better as a sophomore than he was as as junior. Quote
woodenshoemanHoosierfan Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 Well Lander will be starting and probably playing 30 minutes. So he’s taking Greens minutes plus 7. We now have Lander, Phinisee, Al, Leal and Franklin to eat up the 80 minutes played at the 1-2 spot and that’s before we land a transfer. So someone is going to be losing minutes or getting passed up. And Durham isn’t good enough to be put on a level of impassable. We could end up seeing a duo of Lander and Phinisee. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appAgain, your opinion disguised as fact.Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk RaceToTheTop 1 Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 And now you've just owned yourself. Al was not better as a sophomore than he was as as junior.He wasn’t any different. He was still an average player who should be a backup. That’s who he is. He’s not great at anything. He’s really not good at anything. He’s just average. And that hasn’t changed at all. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said: He wasn’t any different. He was still an average player who should be a backup. That’s who he is. He’s not great at anything. He’s really not good at anything. He’s just average. And that hasn’t changed at all. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Cool. What was Franklin good at? And Leal and Galloway just moved ahead on the depth chart based on what? MoyeNeeded and ray 2 Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said: He wasn’t any different. He was still an average player who should be a backup. That’s who he is. He’s not great at anything. He’s really not good at anything. He’s just average. And that hasn’t changed at all. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Not any different yet improved statistically in every stat. Simple question: who was our best guard last season? MoyeNeeded 1 Quote
Hovadipo Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, brumdog45 said: Not any different yet improved statistically in every stat. Simple question: who was our best guard last season? “Khristian Lander” mdn82, HoosierAloha, RaceToTheTop and 2 others 4 1 Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 Cool. What was Franklin good at? And Leal and Galloway just moved ahead on the depth chart based on what?Franklin was a freshman. Galloway move ahead of him? No. I don’t see him playing a ton. Leal though is good. He’s going to immediately compete for minutes. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 Not any different yet improved statistically in every stat. Simple question: who was our best guard last season?Best guard? None of them? Our guards were our biggest problem. They just aren’t good enough. They were all backup quality guys. Archie finally recruited some dudes who are starters in the Big Ten. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
mdn82 Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 Best guard? None of them? Our guards were our biggest problem. They just aren’t good enough. They were all backup quality guys. Archie finally recruited some dudes who are starters in the Big Ten. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appCop out. Somebody has to be the best whether you like them or not. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app woodenshoemanHoosierfan and RaceToTheTop 2 Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 Cop out. Somebody has to be the best whether you like them or not. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appWell it was probably actually Green. As bad as that sounds. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app MoyeNeeded 1 Quote
mdn82 Posted March 22, 2020 Posted March 22, 2020 Well it was probably actually Green. As bad as that sounds. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appDevonte Green put us in the best position to win on a game by game position? Disagree. He only did that when he was on which was 1/10 games if that. Devonte Green helps beat FSU. Al Durham helped win against 90% of the other teams Devonte couldn’t. That means more than a higher upside when you aren’t good enough to reach it on a regular basis.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app MoyeNeeded and woodenshoemanHoosierfan 2 Quote
HoosierAloha Posted March 22, 2020 Posted March 22, 2020 Throw **** against the wall to see what sticks. Nothing sticks so throw some more **** at the wall. Tweak a few things while backing into a corner. Stand ground on quicksand. Rinse and repeat. When you can’t answer direct questions your argument is over. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners jk34, mamasa, mdn82 and 2 others 5 Quote
JSHoosier Posted March 22, 2020 Posted March 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said: Well it was probably actually Green. As bad as that sounds. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Once every 10 games or so, sure. The rest of the time? LOL no. Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted March 22, 2020 Posted March 22, 2020 Devonte Green put us in the best position to win on a game by game position? Disagree. He only did that when he was on which was 1/10 games if that. Devonte Green helps beat FSU. Al Durham helped win against 90% of the other teams Devonte couldn’t. That means more than a higher upside when you aren’t good enough to reach it on a regular basis.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appThey were actually pretty close statistically this season. But Durham ghosted in too many games where we needed him. 2 points @Purdue, 2 points vs Arky, 4 points vs Maryland, 5 points vs Purdue. Biggest difference between the two was Durhams inability to be trusted with the ball. Green has the ball a lot obviously. As in a usage% of 29.5% but only a 13.1% TO%. Durham on the other hand had a usage rate of 19.2% and a TO% of 19.2%. Green had a PER of 14.2 and Durham had a PER of 13.2. Where Al had Green was in Win Shares where Durhams was 1.2 and Greens was 0.7. By the way, TJD and Smith were our best players this season. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted March 22, 2020 Posted March 22, 2020 Also to Greens credit, he had one of the best 3 point shooting seasons of the last decade. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Quote
Bobman1 Posted March 22, 2020 Posted March 22, 2020 Alex O’Connell announced he’s transferring from Duke today. Not that IU has any interest yet but just in regards to the thread title...Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners MikeRoberts, yogisballin, Napleshoosier and 1 other 4 Quote
mdn82 Posted March 22, 2020 Posted March 22, 2020 They were actually pretty close statistically this season. But Durham ghosted in too many games where we needed him. 2 points @Purdue, 2 points vs Arky, 4 points vs Maryland, 5 points vs Purdue. Biggest difference between the two was Durhams inability to be trusted with the ball. Green has the ball a lot obviously. As in a usage% of 29.5% but only a 13.1% TO%. Durham on the other hand had a usage rate of 19.2% and a TO% of 19.2%. Green had a PER of 14.2 and Durham had a PER of 13.2. Where Al had Green was in Win Shares where Durhams was 1.2 and Greens was 0.7. By the way, TJD and Smith were our best players this season. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appSoooo.... Green had better individual games but Al was better over the whole of the season. Green was better with the ball. That’s pretty much what you are telling me with your stats which we have all said. You cherry picked games Al frustrated you. You can do the same with every player. The steadiness of Al at both ends helped get us to 20 wins. The outlying performances by Green helped get us some of our best wins. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app ray 1 Quote
yogisballin Posted March 22, 2020 Posted March 22, 2020 Not any different yet improved statistically in every stat. Simple question: who was our best guard last season?It’s a good question really. If you had to pick 1 guard that was our best consistently this year. Who would it be?Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted March 22, 2020 Posted March 22, 2020 Soooo.... Green had better individual games but Al was better over the whole of the season. Green was better with the ball. That’s pretty much what you are telling me with your stats which we have all said. You cherry picked games Al frustrated you. You can do the same with every player. The steadiness of Al at both ends helped get us to 20 wins. The outlying performances by Green helped get us some of our best wins. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appThey both helped and hurt. Neither were good. But I’d say the difference is the ability to not turn it over. That’s the biggest difference between the two. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
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