Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 Very busy this week but thought I would say this. From the people I have talked to the committee was split between Chris & Scott so the decision went to McRobbie. McRobbie knows Scott is not going to change much, and Chris wanted to have sole power over basketball. Scott has said many times to me that Archie is going to be great so I see him sticking with him for a couple of seasons if he is a man of his word. Otherwise, his close friendship with Alford scares me. I don't think it was a bad hire but could have been better. Peace out, stay safeConfirms they wanted to hire someone they could walk over and an absolutely awful hire. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app southernindianahoosier2 1 Quote
Old Friend Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 2 hours ago, 8bucks said: Where did you read these comments? I haven’t seen any other than the initial thanks to Fred the committee etc. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Indy Star Quote
Old Friend Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Chris007 said: Very busy this week but thought I would say this. From the people I have talked to the committee was split between Chris & Scott so the decision went to McRobbie. McRobbie knows Scott is not going to change much, and Chris wanted to have sole power over basketball. Scott has said many times to me that Archie is going to be great so I see him sticking with him for a couple of seasons if he is a man of his word. Otherwise, his close friendship with Alford scares me. I don't think it was a bad hire but could have been better. Peace out, stay safe God, if this is true, chalk another one up to McRobbie screwing one more thing up....about which he has no knowledge or interest. Dolson has a close friendship with lots of players, Chris included. Indiana did what Indiana does. I for one hope Scott tears up the student athlete book of softness or whatever that thing is. He does that, we're off to a good start. Scott isn't a bad hire. Chris just would have been better. Deserthoozier and Chris007 2 Quote
Old Friend Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 59 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said: Confirms they wanted to hire someone they could walk over and an absolutely awful hire. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app It is not an absolutely awful hire. Give it a rest. MoyeNeeded and thebigweave 2 Quote
Old Friend Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Hardwood83 said: Sorry to make this an Archie referendum but..... Those are reasonable points that I can't argue with. I do think that entering year 4 any and all excuses (legit or not) have to be set aside and the W-L record becomes THE measuring stick. If Archie can't win in 20-21 (assuming there IS a '20-21 season) then I'm off the boat. It's his program now. I understand your point about Crean's players, but Archie chose who to keep. There are many, many examples of new coaches cleaning house. That was his decision not to, so they're his guys. Brutally slow improvement has to pay off now. IMO it's year 4 or bust. Make no mistake, Archie was told who to keep. He did not choose who to keep. I agree next year is an important year, but nevertheless, Indiana made the tournament this season, and perhaps could have won a game or two. Next season, I don't think a top 3-4 finish in the Big Ten's unreasonable at all. NCAA Tournament success is pretty subjective, so I don't place my expectations there unless we dramatically under perform. If Indiana can become "in the conversation" on top of the Big Ten on a consistent basis, everything else will take care of itself. This season Indiana had no bad losses and a bunch of big wins. Indiana DID win. Just not yet to old standards. The curve is on the way up... Stuhoo, BGleas, thebigweave and 2 others 5 Quote
woodenshoemanHoosierfan Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 Indy StarCan you share them?Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk Quote
Old Friend Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 3 hours ago, woodenshoemanHoosierfan said: Can you share them? Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk I actually read a physical paper!!!!!.....In sports section today, though woodenshoemanHoosierfan and 8bucks 2 Quote
woodenshoemanHoosierfan Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 I actually read a physical paper!!!!!.....In sports section today, thoughWhat? There is such a thing? [emoji3]Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk Old Friend 1 Quote
woodenshoemanHoosierfan Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/new-iu-ad-scott-dolson-played-in-integral-role-in-bob-knights-return/Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk kottke and southsidehoosier 2 Quote
MikeRoberts Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 Have you read Dolson's comments and those of the hiring committee chair? You really should before you post this stuffPlease share, I haven’t seen it. However, press releases are that, they are calculated and written to get people on board. The facts are that Dolson seems to be a good guy and a guy that knows and is friendly with the coaches and other people on the committee. He’s been around the program for a long time and was a done deal before this thing ever started. I was told it was Dolson the day the committee was formed... that’s kind of worriesome. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
CS2 Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 15 hours ago, JSHoosier said: Yay for status quo, because that's worked so well the last couple decades. The status quo is retiring. Quote
JSHoosier Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 31 minutes ago, CS2 said: The status quo is retiring. And Dolson was picked because he won't change much, so status quo continues. Loaded Chicken Sandwich 1 Quote
jk34 Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 What do we want him to change right now anyway? MoyeNeeded 1 Quote
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CS2 Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 5 hours ago, JSHoosier said: And Dolson was picked because he won't change much, so status quo continues. That is some people's fear. To me, the status quo with a stern expectation for material improvement in hoops next year would be a great hire. Outside of hoops things have generally gone amazingly well under FG. thebigweave and jk34 2 Quote
Old Friend Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, CS2 said: That is some people's fear. To me, the status quo with a stern expectation for material improvement in hoops next year would be a great hire. Outside of hoops things have generally gone amazingly well under FG. Okay...help me. What are you afraid of? Seriously. Making a coaching change will not...I repeat will NOT magically make Indiana basketball a national champion. Any coach will need to build, just like Archie is building. Indiana has improved every year under Archie. He HAS had injury problems, and the roster he was left by Crean was garbage. Sorry, but it was. The kids he specifically recruited are nos sophomores. He even jettisoned one (Forrester) who wasn't going to fit. The caliber of player he's attracting is and has been solid. What are you afraid of? What's your fear? If all you're doing is judging the final results without looking at the true picture, it's going to look far different than what it is in reality. We have seen consistent material improvement on the basketball floor, even if the results we all want aren't there yet. The improvement and direction ARE there. I don't understand "fear." BGleas and thebigweave 2 Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 What do we want him to change right now anyway? Well Glass put basketball on the same level as wrestling or water polo with the 24 sports 1 team crap. Men’s basketball needs to be priority #1-10. Football #11-20. Everything else follows. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 Okay...help me. What are you afraid of? Seriously. Making a coaching change will not...I repeat will NOT magically make Indiana basketball a national champion. Any coach will need to build, just like Archie is building. Indiana has improved every year under Archie. He HAS had injury problems, and the roster he was left by Crean was garbage. Sorry, but it was. The kids he specifically recruited are nos sophomores. He even jettisoned one (Forrester) who wasn't going to fit. The caliber of player he's attracting is and has been solid. What are you afraid of? What's your fear? If all you're doing is judging the final results without looking at the true picture, it's going to look far different than what it is in reality. We have seen consistent material improvement on the basketball floor, even if the results we all want aren't there yet. The improvement and direction ARE there. I don't understand "fear."But all you’re doing is looking at the final results. When the product on the floor is still pathetic. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
woodenshoemanHoosierfan Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 But all you’re doing is looking at the final results. When the product on the floor is still pathetic. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appResults don't matter? Yes it can be pathetic, but there has been improvement. Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk Quote
CS2 Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 32 minutes ago, Old Friend said: Okay...help me. What are you afraid of? Seriously. Making a coaching change will not...I repeat will NOT magically make Indiana basketball a national champion. Any coach will need to build, just like Archie is building. Indiana has improved every year under Archie. He HAS had injury problems, and the roster he was left by Crean was garbage. Sorry, but it was. The kids he specifically recruited are nos sophomores. He even jettisoned one (Forrester) who wasn't going to fit. The caliber of player he's attracting is and has been solid. What are you afraid of? What's your fear? If all you're doing is judging the final results without looking at the true picture, it's going to look far different than what it is in reality. We have seen consistent material improvement on the basketball floor, even if the results we all want aren't there yet. The improvement and direction ARE there. I don't understand "fear." 1. I am afraid of nothing regarding this 2. Never wrote a word about firing a coach. Did you respond to the wrong post? woodenshoemanHoosierfan 1 Quote
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