Josh Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 Just now, Treesh said: He's not going anywhere, so I'd try to find some positive perspective. Like, put my hands over my eyes and chant that All Is Well?? I'm sorry, I can't do that. Archie Miller ball is atrocious and I can't enable it. He needs to go. Quote
theriverpilot Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, NOLA Hoosier said: Anyone think Smith transfers? I feel like that's a major possibility. I bet Damezi goes too I’d definitely be in favor of some transfers To bring in a true PG and a proven shooter Quote
Josh Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 1 minute ago, WayneFleekHoosier said: We will never recruit or behave like a blue blood. Those hopes and dreams are done. Gotta wait for Archies 5 year rebuilding program. Let’s see him recruit 2021? Lol. Let’s wait to get older........ OMG..... recruit talented kids... Durham, Franklin aren’t the quality of player Indiana needs to win big. Same for Phinisee. UGH Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app Stop saying never! Don't accept the losers mentality that our program has now! One quick change can change everything. Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 Anyone think Smith transfers? I feel like that's a major possibility. I bet Damezi goes tooPerfectly fine with both leaving. Smith way overrated, and Damezi is just awful. Ugh PS- I liked Damezi out of HS. Thought he had great scorer mentality. Thought he was long and athletic. I was wrong. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app NOLA Hoosier 1 Quote
cbp4iu Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 I personally would be fine with being bad next year if it meant we had a core of Phinsee Franklin Brunk Jackson-Davis Hunter Thompson and our incoming freshmen. Honestly I would play those 6 significant minutes. Let’s work on giving guys who want to be apart of the program the bulk of minutes instead of Green... Instead of Smith... Instead of Durham. If they don’t like it either they fight for playing time or go. Sad that these 3 have been here 3 years and all seem to be on their own agenda. Quote
Josh Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, cbp4iu said: I personally would be fine with being bad next year if it meant we had a core of Phinsee Franklin Brunk Jackson-Davis Hunter Thompson and our incoming freshmen. Honestly I would play those 6 significant minutes. Let’s work on giving guys who want to be apart of the program the bulk of minutes instead of Green... Instead of Smith... Instead of Durham. If they don’t like it either they fight for playing time or go. Sad that these 3 have been here 3 years and all seem to be on their own agenda. Durham plays with hustle. Phinisee does not. Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 I personally would be fine with being bad next year if it meant we had a core of Phinsee Franklin Brunk Jackson-Davis Hunter Thompson and our incoming freshmen. Honestly I would play those 6 significant minutes. Let’s work on giving guys who want to be apart of the program the bulk of minutes instead of Green... Instead of Smith... Instead of Durham. If they don’t like it either they fight for playing time or go. Sad that these 3 have been here 3 years and all seem to be on their own agenda. Idk. More excuses blaming the upper classmen. Franklin isn’t playing well. Phin is the most average starting PG on a power 5 roster. Brunk can’t guard or score on athletes. Race is underwhelming. Hunter is sporadic and generally not impressive. Now Hunter has upside, no doubt. TJD is great. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
cbp4iu Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said: Idk. More excuses blaming the upper classmen. Franklin isn’t playing well. Phin is the most average starting PG on a power 5 roster. Brunk can’t guard or score on athletes. Race is underwhelming. Hunter is sporadic and generally not impressive. Now Hunter has upside, no doubt. TJD is great. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app At this point I’m just running out of ideas. I don’t care that they lose. I just hate how this team just looks uninterested. It makes me so mad. Just want the players to take pride for their school. WayneFleekHoosier and MikeRoberts 2 Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 Ponder on this. Is MSUs roster more talented than Indiana? I say, no. MSU likely to win B1G and be a 3 or 4 seed. If Indiana can’t recruit a roster full of stars we need a Izzo type coach that figures out how to win and build teams. We don’t have that in Archie. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners Quote
cbp4iu Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said: Ponder on this. Is MSUs roster more talented than Indiana? I say, no. MSU likely to win B1G and be a 3 or 4 seed. If Indiana can’t recruit a roster full of stars we need a Izzo type coach that figures out how to win and build teams. We don’t have that in Archie. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners How would you attack the roster makeup then going forward? Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 Alright, I’m done for the night. We can do this again this weekend. But don’t worry, we will at least go 1–1 next week. We’ll feel better about ourselves then. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners BtownBanner6 1 Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 How would you attack the roster makeup then going forward? This season? Or next?Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
cbp4iu Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 Just now, WayneFleekHoosier said: This season? Or next? Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app Either or... short term or long term. Quote
MikeRoberts Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 Archie’s fault, not Archie’s fault, I’m not sure but this team has a ton quit in them. They literally quit hustling and playing team ball and doing the little things for the entire second half. We threw junk lineup after junk lineup out there with no motion and just turned it over and over and over. The most active I saw Archie was when he was baffled as hell he got a tech and then kept questioning the refs about it until we were down 17 and the game was overSent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Alford Bailey 1 Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 Either or... short term or long term. Idk. I’m not thrilled with the roster in general. I don’t like Archies offense. This year, there isn’t some answer hiding in the bench. We don’t have it. Next year? Brunk, TJD, I guess Phin ( but he should be a backup on a good team). As things project, I don’t see next year being anything special. It’ll be about like this year. The recruits aren’t going to step in and dominate. Will our guys get better? I hope. I’m not confident in Archies ability to recruit either. No 2020 difference makers available. Doom and gloom. Ride the wave. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app bigrod 1 Quote
Brass Cannon Posted January 30, 2020 Author Posted January 30, 2020 We are 2-5 against teams not named Nebraska and Northwestern. 4 more wins is going to be an obstacle bigrod 1 Quote
rcbowla Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 It's just speculation on what he has said or what he will. All that we know is that it's not working. Cut bait. Our program sucks right now. Lower than Crean had us.That's actually fair to say. We are not better now than we were with Crean. Ridiculous to say that but it's true according to results and my eyeballsSent from my Pixel 3a XL using Tapatalk Quote
MikeRoberts Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 That's actually fair to say. We are not better now than we were with Crean. Ridiculous to say that but it's true according to results and my eyeballsSent from my Pixel 3a XL using TapatalkYeah, it felt like we had a higher ceiling with Crean. It’s hard to even imagine sweet 16s now let alone #1 rankingSent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 FWIW. 14 CBB head coaches were hired 3 seasons ago. Only 3 of them have improved their team's KenPom rating across all 3 seasons. Archie Miller, Anthony Grant, and Brad Underwood Mike Hopkins as well. Which proves nothing. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Alford Bailey Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 IU basketball is just a crap product right now and there are zero reasons to think that changes over the next 2-3 years. Loaded Chicken Sandwich 1 Quote
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