Bailey7878 Posted January 27, 2018 Posted January 27, 2018 Sadly, reading between the lines of both coaches statements, it seems obvious that they still don't get it. The implied victim blaming by the actions not taken against the perpetrators is disgusting and unacceptable. When the importance of sports becomes more important than people we have a serious, apparently systemic, problem. Who knows how deep it goes at MSU or for that matter society as a whole.Well fans keep going and supporting guys like this, Pitino, and Roy Williams. If the stadiums were empty this would not be tolerated, but fans are hypocrites.Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk cthomas, Ajwhitis, MikeRoberts and 1 other 4 Quote
BH33 Posted January 27, 2018 Posted January 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, johnsoniu said: Three were mentioned. Travis Walton is the former MSU player and asst coach that worked for the Clippers. Keith Appling is currently serving a year in the Wayne County jail on a concealed weapon charge. I think I got my ex-MSU scumbag PGs mixed up. Appling is currently in prison for weapons charges. Travis Walton is the aforementioned Clippers asst coach. thanks for the assist! HoosierHoops1, WayneFleekHoosier and johnsoniu 3 Quote
indianaranger Posted January 27, 2018 Posted January 27, 2018 He should be fired this is not going away until then. Iugradman 1 Quote
mookied39 Posted January 27, 2018 Author Posted January 27, 2018 32 minutes ago, cthomas said: Sadly, reading between the lines of both coaches statements, it seems obvious that they still don't get it. The implied victim blaming by the actions not taken against the perpetrators is disgusting and unacceptable. When the importance of sports becomes more important than people we have a serious, apparently systemic, problem. Who knows how deep it goes at MSU or for that matter society as a whole. It is not the importance of sport. It is the importance of $$$ Root of all evil'd cthomas, jgries84 and Iugradman 3 Quote
ElectricBoogaloo Posted January 27, 2018 Posted January 27, 2018 31 minutes ago, johnsoniu said: Three were mentioned. Travis Walton is the former MSU player and asst coach that worked for the Clippers. Keith Appling is currently serving a year in the Wayne County jail on a concealed weapon charge. I was looking for this... lol. I was 90% sure Appling was in jail. I think the ESPN article included that for background. johnsoniu 1 Quote
Bailey7878 Posted January 27, 2018 Posted January 27, 2018 He should be fired this is not going away until then. He won't be fired.Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk Quote
mookied39 Posted January 27, 2018 Author Posted January 27, 2018 17 minutes ago, Bailey7878 said: He won't be fired. Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk Any chance he exits after this season on his own? The HEAT is going to be on MSU. Quote
Bailey7878 Posted January 28, 2018 Posted January 28, 2018 Any chance he exits after this season on his own? The HEAT is going to be on MSU.No. He's not going anywhere.Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk Quote
mookied39 Posted January 28, 2018 Author Posted January 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Bailey7878 said: No. He's not going anywhere. Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk I was 100% of that line of thinking......but I am starting to go back and forth. The pressure at MSU when the new leadership takes over to clean house will be serious. mdn82, Iugradman, mamasa and 1 other 4 Quote
AKHoosier Posted January 28, 2018 Posted January 28, 2018 I think Dantonio will be the coach more likely to be ousted than Izzo. HinnyHoosier and Bailey7878 2 Quote
Diadem Posted January 28, 2018 Posted January 28, 2018 The Country is so worked up about this type of thing , I would be really surprised if either coach survives . Best case for Izzo is he wins the National Championship and then "retires" . Not likely to happen . IMO https://sports.yahoo.com/disappointing-michigan-states-tom-izzo-chose-caution-candor-friday-night-054633770.html IUsafety 1 Quote
Bailey7878 Posted January 28, 2018 Posted January 28, 2018 I was 100% of that line of thinking......but I am starting to go back and forth. The pressure at MSU when the new leadership takes over to clean house will be serious. I guess but winning trumps all. How did Bob knight last as long as he did.Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk Quote
Popular Post mdn82 Posted January 28, 2018 Popular Post Posted January 28, 2018 I guess but winning trumps all. How did Bob knight last as long as he did.Sent from my SM-J700T using TapatalkWhat was Bob Knights downfall? A change in philosophy at the top which is happening at MSU. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Iugradman, ALASKA HOOSIER, LIHoosier and 6 others 9 Quote
Popular Post IUHAHN81 Posted January 28, 2018 Popular Post Posted January 28, 2018 If we can fire Bob, they sure as hell can fire that guy. Just sayin jonz44, Stuhoo, thebigweave and 8 others 11 Quote
HinnyHoosier Posted January 28, 2018 Posted January 28, 2018 The pressure will continue to build at MSU and, while winning does trump all in normal circumstances, the reputation of the entire university is and will continue to be at stake. The incoming president and AD better not accept their new positions unless they are ready to call some difficult shots. Somebody has to be punished, and I'm hedging on football being the sacrificial offering to save face as a university. Basketball will be spared at all costs until the bitter end of controversy. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners ThompsonHoosier 1 Quote
Old Friend Posted January 28, 2018 Posted January 28, 2018 There are 37 known instances of sexual assault (ASSAULT, not even misconduct. Assault is a huge word) within the men's basketball and football programs since 2010. The president of MSU apparently knew, the AD apparently knew, and Mark Emmert apparently knew. Does anyone thing Izzo's clean in all of this? At some point, this has to break. Between this, the gymnastics mess, U of Louisville; the FBI investigation from late last year.... I think Mark Emmert will be done. I think the NCAA will see the beginning of its end as the governing body of D1 sports; and college athletics as we know them will never be the same. Paying coaches what universities do, and getting in bed with shoe companies was a bad idea from the start; let alone put so much focus on AAU teams and coaches; many sponsored by the shoe companies. The NCAA is in as big a mess as MSU is; and yeah...I think Izzo takes part of the fall eventually. HoosierAloha, thebigweave, Hutch89 and 3 others 6 Quote
Bailey7878 Posted January 28, 2018 Posted January 28, 2018 If we can fire Bob, they sure as hell can fire that guy. Just sayinWe shall see. I just don't see it happening soon.Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk Quote
IUHAHN81 Posted January 28, 2018 Posted January 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Bailey7878 said: We shall see. I just don't see it happening soon. Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk I'm a doubter of it happening myself. Fingers crossed ;) Quote
LIHoosier Posted January 28, 2018 Posted January 28, 2018 22 minutes ago, Old Friend said: I think Mark Emmert will be done. I think the NCAA will see the beginning of its end as the governing body of D1 sports; and college athletics as we know them will never be the same. Paying coaches what universities do, and getting in bed with shoe companies was a bad idea from the start; let alone put so much focus on AAU teams and coaches; many sponsored by the shoe companies. Small potatoes compared to actual crimes, but Mike Vrabel also admitted that the NCAA was essentially a minor league system for the NFL where the coaches essentially get paid multi-millions to prep players when he took the Titans job last week. Quote
Bailey7878 Posted January 28, 2018 Posted January 28, 2018 I'm a doubter of it happening myself. Fingers crossed ;)I think nothing happens til the seasons over. They want to make an ncaa run first sadly Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk Quote
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