Corruption in College Basketball

[Jam]

I wonder if Marvin Bagley sitting out the last 4 games for a “minor” knee injury is part of this. Always thought it a bit curious that a guy can skip his last year of high school and is admitted to a prestigious academic institution in late summer.


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[Hoosierfan2017]

2 hours ago, Hardwood83 said:

As others have said, if IU was cheating/benefiting from cheating over the last few years it's pathetic. I mean what are we the Dollar General of corruption? How much did McRoberts get under the table? What is the going rate for a +100 ranked player like OG? What kind of car is Al Durham driving?  

Sheesh, if you cheat and JBJ and Thomas Bryant are the best you can do.....I don't even know what to say.

I want the hammer to fall. Kentucky, UNC and Duke are on my most wanted list. Syracuse and Kansas are close behind. D-bags make me sick. 

 

 

In hindsight paying for Bryant and JBJ sounds like a terrible idea, but at the time they were both McDonald's all Americans. I wouldn't be surprised if all the guys who make that team each year are getting paid. 

[Bailey7878]

In hindsight paying for Bryant and JBJ sounds like a terrible idea, but at the time they were both McDonald's all Americans. I wouldn't be surprised if all the guys who make that team each year are getting paid. 

Bad investment if it happened for a 7-11 record.

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[A.j. Nigh]

As others have said, if IU was cheating/benefiting from cheating over the last few years it's pathetic. I mean what are we the Dollar General of corruption? How much did McRoberts get under the table? What is the going rate for a +100 ranked player like OG? What kind of car is Al Durham driving?  
Sheesh, if you cheat and JBJ and Thomas Bryant are the best you can do.....I don't even know what to say.
I want the hammer to fall. Kentucky, UNC and Duke are on my most wanted list. Syracuse and Kansas are close behind. D-bags make me sick. 
 
 

Michigan State says hello.....


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[Baltimore Hoosier]

 

Not sure if someone posted yet... A bit of light reading for your Friday morning.

https://sports.yahoo.com/exclusive-federal-documents-detail-sweeping-potential-ncaa-violations-involving-high-profile-players-schools-103338484.html

 

[mdn82]

 
Not sure if someone posted yet... A bit of light reading for your Friday morning.
https://sports.yahoo.com/exclusive-federal-documents-detail-sweeping-potential-ncaa-violations-involving-high-profile-players-schools-103338484.html
 

Wow. Some of the schools sure, but Virginia and Wichita St will fall into this too? Not due to recruitment but players making bad choices. No Indiana players listed on that list though.


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[BGleas]

10 minutes ago, Baltimore Hoosier said:

 

Not sure if someone posted yet... A bit of light reading for your Friday morning.

https://sports.yahoo.com/exclusive-federal-documents-detail-sweeping-potential-ncaa-violations-involving-high-profile-players-schools-103338484.html

 

To be honest it was a little underwhelming, except the things with Smith, Stone and a couple others. While still against the rules for the players, it seemed more about the agency’s trying to bribe college players to sign with them, as opposed to real recruiting violations by schools and coaches, or players being swayed to certain schools. 

 

[A.j. Nigh]

To be honest it was a little underwhelming, except the things with Smith, Stone and a couple others. While still against the rules for the players, it seemed more about the agency’s trying to bribe college players to sign with them, as opposed to real recruiting violations by schools and coaches, or players being swayed to certain schools. 
 

Yea but I don’t think they released the big stuff yet. This article was just an appetizer to confirm some big names and some legit charges. Also, I see Vanderbilt’s listed....cough cough.


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[coonhounds]

Wow. Some of the schools sure, but Virginia and Wichita St will fall into this too? Not due to recruitment but players making bad choices. No Indiana players listed on that list though.


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But sounds like they didnt see everything so fingers crossed

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[BGleas]

3 minutes ago, A.j. Nigh said:

 

Yea but I don’t think they released the big stuff yet. This article was just an appetizer to confirm some big names and some legit charges. Also, I see Vanderbilt’s listed....cough cough.


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Yeah, the real info will be with whatever comes from the shoe company investigation. Those are the guys really corrupting recruiting. Agents are more just worried about which players they can sign. 

[Baltimore Hoosier]

5 minutes ago, BGleas said:

To be honest it was a little underwhelming, except the things with Smith, Stone and a couple others. While still against the rules for the players, it seemed more about the agency’s trying to bribe college players to sign with them, as opposed to real recruiting violations by schools and coaches, or players being swayed to certain schools. 

 

I don’t know.. there aren’t many details but towards the end of the article it name Izzo, and the Villanova coaches by name.. that’s pretty big news. On top of the specific players it lists by name. 

[Baltimore Hoosier]

Crazy that the article is just pertaining to ONE AGENCY. This is the tip of the iceberg. 

[Baltimore Hoosier]

14 minutes ago, mdn82 said:

Wow. Some of the schools sure, but Virginia and Wichita St will fall into this too? Not due to recruitment but players making bad choices. No Indiana players listed on that list though.


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I saw someone on Twitter zoom in on one of the Balance Sheets and Jared Jeffries name is on it. I’m sure that relates to his NBA career but really have no idea what the NCAA ‘statue of limitations’ is on something like this.

[BGleas]

17 minutes ago, Baltimore Hoosier said:

I don’t know.. there aren’t many details but towards the end of the article it name Izzo, and the Villanova coaches by name.. that’s pretty big news. On top of the specific players it lists by name. 

Not sure on the rules, are coaches not allowed to speak with agents to gauge NBA potential/standings of their players?

But yes, this is just the tip of the iceberg. The real meat in all of this will be what comes from the shoe companies. 

[Stuhoo]

24 minutes ago, Baltimore Hoosier said:

I saw someone on Twitter zoom in on one of the Balance Sheets and Jared Jeffries name is on it. I’m sure that relates to his NBA career but really have no idea what the NCAA ‘statue of limitations’ is on something like this.

 

Jared was a professional client of ASM - they were his agents.

Anyone who was in a financial relationship with agents as a long term pro is largely irrelevant; especially someone who turned pro in 2003.

 

[Stuhoo]

56 minutes ago, Baltimore Hoosier said:

 

Not sure if someone posted yet... A bit of light reading for your Friday morning.

https://sports.yahoo.com/exclusive-federal-documents-detail-sweeping-potential-ncaa-violations-involving-high-profile-players-schools-103338484.html

 

 

Maybe one of my favorite youtube vids ever ("the 'haw' has to be like you just smashed your shnutz in the doorjamb"), and boy oh boy is it appropriate for the occasion!

 

 

 

[KB0]

If that is the totality of everything they have found.....then it's not much. I assume there are documents that Yahoo doesn't have access too with more damning information.

For the most part, it looks like it will all be falling on the players. Only coaches mentioned are "Villanova coaches" and Izzo. 

[Stuhoo]

1 minute ago, KB0 said:

If that is the totality of everything they have found.....then it's not much. I assume there are documents that Yahoo doesn't have access too with more damning information.

For the most part, it looks like it will all be falling on the players. Only coaches mentioned are "Villanova coaches" and Izzo. 

 

That is TWO PAGES out of thousands of pages of documents from ONLY ONE AGENT!

Quite a conundrum for the NCAA - act on the incontrovertible and partially blow up the sport, or give every cheating program a mulligan.

 

[wirenuts]

 
That is TWO PAGES out of thousands of pages of documents from ONLY ONE AGENT!
Quite a conundrum for the NCAA - act on the incontrovertible and partially blow up the sport, or give every cheating program a mulligan.
 

If it was just the NCAA, I would have to say the mulligan would be what would happen. I think it all depends on how involved the FBI wanted to be. As previously said, this is the tip of the iceberg....and it is awesome

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[Baltimore Hoosier]

35 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

 

Jared was a professional client of ASM - they were his agents.

Anyone who was in a financial relationship with agents as a long term pro is largely irrelevant; especially someone who turned pro in 2003.

 

I know he was a client of ASM. Just saying I wonder how far back the data goes, and wonder what could happen if some Balance Sheet from 2001 popped up.