Indiana at Virginia - Saturday 9/9 @ 3:30 ET on ESPNU

[VO5]

2 minutes ago, Crimson and Cream said:

Anyone have video of the targeting hit called against us? I can't find it anywhere.

There used to be Highlight videos after every game too. Not sure where those went. Hoping they're still around for basketball season.

[Crimson and Cream]

2 minutes ago, VO5 said:

There used to be Highlight videos after every game too. Not sure where those went. Hoping they're still around for basketball season.

Yeah the B1G Network usually posts videos but they haven't yet

[TheWatShot]

[Crimson and Cream]

1 minute ago, TheWatShot said:

Thanks. Man, if that's illegal this isn't football.

[JSHoosier]

With that replay I can see why it was called.  Targeting is not just helmet to helmet hits, but leading with the crown; before hitting the QB you can see him lower his helmet a little bit and that's why it was called.  The way the rule is the refs did the right thing there.

[Demo]

48 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

Yeah, as much as I disagree with the way targeting is called on bang bang plays, that one's pretty much textbook. Gooch deserved it if they had called it on the field. But if the ref 15' from the play doesn't call it, calling it from the booth is complete crap unless they're prepared to call PI's and other close calls the same way.

[Miller'sTheMan]

IF that's the rule, it's just a stupid rule.

[Brass Cannon]

3 minutes ago, Miller'sTheMan said:

IF that's the rule, it's just a stupid rule.

Yeah why reduce the risk of paralysis in young adults. Rabble rabble rabble

[Hoosierfan2017]

4 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

Yeah why reduce the risk of paralysis in young adults. Rabble rabble rabble

If you're worried about risks like that then football isn't the sport for you. The penalty doesn't stop these hits from happening, it just punishes the players doing them. I would venture to say that the majority of "targeting" hits aren't intentional. In the heat of the moment when theyre trying to make a play it isn't going to be the first thing on their mind. 

[Brass Cannon]

9 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

If you're worried about risks like that then football isn't the sport for you. The penalty doesn't stop these hits from happening, it just punishes the players doing them. I would venture to say that the majority of "targeting" hits aren't intentional. In the heat of the moment when theyre trying to make a play it isn't going to be the first thing on their mind. 

I think you are unfamiliar with the point of penalties in football. They are to dissuade players and teams from doing something. 

 

[Miller'sTheMan]

12 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

Yeah why reduce the risk of paralysis in young adults. Rabble rabble rabble

That's a clean hit. He got hit in the head, it's unfortunate but there's nothing dirty or malicious about it. The fact that he's ejected and suspended for the first half of the next game as a result is nothing short of a joke.

its a dangerous game, everyone knows it when they play.

[Brass Cannon]

The belief that football isn't football without debilitating injuries is why the sport will eventually go the way of boxing. And why parents are redirecting their kids to soccer, baseball and basketball. 

[Hoosierfan2017]

11 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

I think you are unfamiliar with the point of penalties in football. They are to dissuade players and teams from doing something. 

 

Why do you feel the need to be a condescending jerk whenever I quote something you say? My point is that when a player like Gooch is going to make a play he isn't thinking about the penalty. He sees the quarterback looking the other way with the ball and he's trying to make a play. Not to mention the fact that when these players were growing up and being taught to tackle these targeting penalties didn't exist. Gooch did what he was taught to do. There was nothing malicious about it. 

[Hoosierfan2017]

7 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

The belief that football isn't football without debilitating injuries is why the sport will eventually go the way of boxing. And why parents are redirecting their kids to soccer, baseball and basketball. 

Football is a sport where grown men physically assault each other for 3 hours. Boxing is a sport where grown men punch each other in the face for 12 rounds. The only way you're going to get rid of debilitating injuries in those sports is if you completely change the way they're played. Boxing is declining because research shows that hey, taking blow after blow to the head isn't a safe thing to do. It's a violent sport, just like football. If you want to make football safe then you're going to have to take off the pads and give everyone flags. 

[Brass Cannon]

6 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Football is a sport where grown men physically assault each other for 3 hours. Boxing is a sport where grown men punch each other in the face for 12 rounds. The only way you're going to get rid of debilitating injuries in those sports is if you completely change the way they're played. Boxing isn't declining because "people think boxing isn't boxing without debilitating injuries." Boxing is declining because research shows that hey, taking blow after blow to the head isn't a safe thing to do. It's a violent sport, just like football. 

well if you are going to complain about the game trying to evolve and curb the decline of ratings. I hope you won't be complaining when In 30 years third tier athletes are the ones to pick football 

[Hoosierfan2017]

15 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

well if you are going to complain about the game trying to evolve and curb the decline of ratings. I hope you won't be complaining when In 30 years third tier athletes are the ones to pick football 

The declining ratings have very little to do with the injuries. If anything people think the rule changes are making football too "soft."

https://www.google.com/amp/boston.cbslocal.com/2017/07/27/survey-national-anthem-protests-top-reason-for-nfl-ratings-drop/amp/

As long as they allow tackling it will be a violent and dangerous sport. It's often not even the "big" hits that are the most dangerous ones. It's the little blows that lineman take on every play that often cause the problems. How do you propose they stop that? 

https://www.google.com/amp/abcnews.go.com/amp/Sports/study-ol-greatest-head-injury-risk/story%3fid=25932342

"The authors noted that most of the rules changes at the NFL and NCAA levels that have been adopted to promote safety in recent years are aimed at reducing the frequency of big hits among skill position players -- not the smaller, repetitive hits that might also be damaging and are a feature of line play."

[Dalton26]

well if you are going to complain about the game trying to evolve and curb the decline of ratings. I hope you won't be complaining when In 30 years third tier athletes are the ones to pick football 

I think the rule changes or “evolving” are what’s causing the decline of ratings.


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[Brass Cannon]

5 minutes ago, Dalton26 said:

 

I think the rule changes or “evolving” are what’s causing the decline of ratings.


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Possibly in the short term. But the rule changes are in response to significant declines in youth participation. You don't want the next Gronkowski playing soccer instead. 

[Hoosierfan2017]

Football is a dangerous sport. As long as the core tenets of football remain it will be a dangerous sport. They can try and take measures to reduce the violence, but unless they completely change the game it will be dangerous. 

[Dalton26]

Possibly in the short term. But the rule changes are in response to significant declines in youth participation. You don't want the next Gronkowski playing soccer instead. 

To be honest I don’t want anyone playing soccer. (Insert sleeping emoji here)


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