(2019) PF Trayce Jackson-Davis to INDIANA

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1 hour ago, Hardwood83 said:

That sounds like an undrafted free agent/D-League signing to me. Nothing wrong with that, but not worth leaving college early, IMO. 

Unless he's had enough of the current state of IU BB  

Maybe. But you can be successful at his size playing center. 

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

And get someone fired. I've seen chairs play better defensively. 

Defense in the NBA?

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1 minute ago, woodenshoemanHoosierfan said:

Defense in the NBA?

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Yea it is actually played and matters. Coaches in the NBA are smart enough to exploit players weaknesses. Garza would be getting smoked.

[LamarCheeks]

Happy 21st, TJD. 

Drink up! 

(He must be older for his class. When I was in college, I didn't turn 21 till I was a junior.)

[Stuhoo]

5 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

Happy 21st, TJD. 

Drink up! 

(He must be older for his class. When I was in college, I didn't turn 21 till I was a junior.)

 

Very impressive photo--no spillage!

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On 1/15/2021 at 11:43 AM, WayneFleekHoosier said:

If Luka Garza played basketball in Europe, he’d be a top 5 pick.  Change my mind.

Excellent take.  The more I think about it, the more he is Arvydas Sabonis if Sabonis had come into the league at 22.

[Stuhoo]

If cold beer came out of monkey's *****, we'd all wanna be zookeepers.

Change my mind.

[Demo]

2 hours ago, brumdog45 said:

Excellent take.  The more I think about it, the more he is Arvydas Sabonis if Sabonis had come into the league at 22.

I love Garza. Just a great college player. He’ll play a long time in the League. But, no, no, no. When Sabonis was 22 he was probably 1 of the 8 or 10 best players on the planet. If he’d come to the League at 21 instead of 30 with his knees already going he may have been a top 5 big in the history of the game.  He might have been anyway. 7’3”, the most skilled big up to Jokic, 1 of the greatest passers ever, a legit basketball genius, and he could defend. One of my all-time favorite players. Garza is to Sabonis what Bojan Bogdanovic is to Bird.

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1 hour ago, Demo said:

I love Garza. Just a great college player. He’ll play a long time in the League. But, no, no, no. When Sabonis was 22 he was probably 1 of the 8 or 10 best players on the planet. If he’d come to the League at 21 instead of 30 with his knees already going he may have been a top 5 big in the history of the game.  He might have been anyway. 7’3”, the most skilled big up to Jokic, 1 of the greatest passers ever, a legit basketball genius, and he could defend. One of my all-time favorite players. Garza is to Sabonis what Bojan Bogdanovic is to Bird.

Garza will be spending a lot of his time chilling on a bench somewhere, that's if he makes it. If you're not putting up 25+, you best be able to defend parked cars. Garza can't. At the NBA level, he will get absolutely eaten alive on defense and his offensive game doesn't translate. Now some might want to compare him to Nikola Jokic, which is fair.. but Jokic can defend a parked car. Frank Kaminsky is having an okayish role playing career. Garza isn't even as good as Kaminsky was. Garza will likely be a stud overseas. 

[Honkyman]

There is always a place in the NBA for a big man who can shoot. Garza won't be a starter but he'll be a part of a 2nd unit on some NBA team. TJD's challenge to making it in the NBA is his lack of shooting ability/skills.

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52 minutes ago, Honkyman said:

There is always a place in the NBA for a big man who can shoot. Garza won't be a starter but he'll be a part of a 2nd unit on some NBA team. TJD's challenge to making it in the NBA is his lack of shooting ability/skills.

There is a place for a big man slower than a sloth that can't defend and won't be an elite scorer. You will not find anyone as bad of a defender at the center position, worse than Garza. Maybe Jahlil Okafor... But Garza isn't even that good. 

 

[Alford Bailey]

TJD is averaging 20 points and just shy of 10 (9.4) rebounds a game. Dude will move on to the next level.

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5 hours ago, Demo said:

I love Garza. Just a great college player. He’ll play a long time in the League. But, no, no, no. When Sabonis was 22 he was probably 1 of the 8 or 10 best players on the planet. If he’d come to the League at 21 instead of 30 with his knees already going he may have been a top 5 big in the history of the game.  He might have been anyway. 7’3”, the most skilled big up to Jokic, 1 of the greatest passers ever, a legit basketball genius, and he could defend. One of my all-time favorite players. Garza is to Sabonis what Bojan Bogdanovic is to Bird.

Have to say I didn't know that about Sabonis at age 22.  I do know that at 30 even with the knees going he was incredibly skilled for his size.

Have to say that the development that Sabonis' son Domantas has made in the NBA is incredible.  6'11" power forward putting up 21.5 points, 11.6 rebounds, and 5.7 assists as a big is amazing.  To think he was just a extra guy in the Dipo/George trade is amazing.  Do wish the Pacers hadn't hit the snag of really bad luck with T.J. Warren's injury and Caris LaVert's health situation this year.....they probably aren't a team to compete for the title in the East even with them, but if they could get both those guys healthy and in game shape come playoff tie, they could be an interesting match up in the playoffs.  A Brogdon/LaVert/Warren/Sabonis/Turner grouping, while not matching up with the big boys, isn't too bad.  Probably have to move some of their bench shooters for some backup size.

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8 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

If cold beer came out of monkey's *****, we'd all wanna be zookeepers.

Change my mind.

I disagree.  It wouldn't need to be cold.

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On 1/14/2021 at 7:41 AM, yogisballin said:

I’m sorry but TJD and JJ are nothing alike as far as their basketball abilities. I haven’t looked this up but I remember him being a roughly 1/3 3pt shooter for his career at IU


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He was -- 32.5% for the two seasons he was here -- and as a sophomore he 38% from three on 71 attempts.  Jeffries took roughly 1/6th of his shots from deep.  TJD has taken exactly 0.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

Season recap.

https://www.insidethehall.com/2021/04/26/thats-a-wrap-trayce-jackson-davis-2/?fbclid=IwAR061B04yBsbxrbNgyCmf__moe9TnCNajgwqj1m0f7XXXb6c11xDn9rC0o0

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

Rothstein:  Jackson Davis primed for massive junior season at Indiana

https://collegehoopstoday.com/index.php/rothstein-files/weekend-brunch-jackson-davis-primed-for-massive-junior-season-at-indiana/

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48 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Rothstein:  Jackson Davis primed for massive junior season at Indiana

https://collegehoopstoday.com/index.php/rothstein-files/weekend-brunch-jackson-davis-primed-for-massive-junior-season-at-indiana/

“He needs to develop a little jump shot,” Woodson a said of Jackson-Davis. “In watching him since I’ve been here, he’s got good form.....”

First time I think Woody has pulled a punch a little bit. Trayce does not have good form. 

[GloryDays]

43 minutes ago, Demo said:

“He needs to develop a little jump shot,” Woodson a said of Jackson-Davis. “In watching him since I’ve been here, he’s got good form.....”

First time I think Woody has pulled a punch a little bit. Trayce does not have good form. 

Yeah, it's god awful.

[ray]

TJD is currently #55 according to this list. Jayden Ivy is #6. It's mostly freshman and international players. 

https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/2022-nba-mock-draft-chet-holmgren-paolo-banchero-jaden-hardy-jalen-duren