HooHooHoo22 Posted February 23, 2017 Posted February 23, 2017 Well said. It's exciting and sad all in the same. Was always hopeful Crean would (improve, recruit better, get better assistants, be more consistent). It just wasn't happening. Last year might of been a ray of hope with how the team turned around. But nope. Just some fortuitous breaks and some Seniors that refused to be embarrassed. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBannersI'm in the same boat, I wanted Crean to be the savior. I wanted him to be here for a long time. I love his passion and motivation but it's time Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Julie Sturgeon 1 Quote
Popular Post hoosierpap Posted February 23, 2017 Popular Post Posted February 23, 2017 2 hours ago, Hoosier Guy said: Yes I remember him quite well. Him and Mile hinting at this? That means we're getting somewhere I trust the janitor to a degree, but he didn't say a word. Mile...eh. I would LOVE to hear Billy D is in but I'm exercising some caution here for sure Napleshoosier, sirhoosierlot, Hovadipo and 7 others 10 Quote
KYHoosier Posted February 23, 2017 Posted February 23, 2017 1 hour ago, HooHooHoo22 said: He might of been the one that broke the news on how Holt might not of been the one driving when it hit Davis. I could be wrong Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Wow, I never read the forum back then when the accident happened, but I'm curious to know who might have been driving the car that night if it wasn't Holt. kottke and HooHooHoo22 2 Quote
Yogi'sBicep Posted February 23, 2017 Posted February 23, 2017 If Duke low key hired Crean my life will be made. Quote
Brass Cannon Posted February 23, 2017 Posted February 23, 2017 I do wish TC had given us some inkling of a timetable. The anticipation is killing me. Quote
hoosierpap Posted February 23, 2017 Posted February 23, 2017 Just now, KYHoosier said: Wow, I never read the forum back then when the accident happened, but I'm curious to know who might have been driving the car that night if it wasn't Holt. Fwiw, that was another poster on here. Idk if he wants me to give his name and open the PM flood gates but he's posted today (i believe) and does fairly regularly. Napleshoosier and mdn82 2 Quote
HooHooHoo22 Posted February 23, 2017 Posted February 23, 2017 Fwiw, that was another poster on here. Idk if he wants me to give his name and open the PM flood gates but he's posted today (i believe) and does fairly regularly.Yeah sorry about that, I couldn't remember exactly who it was Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted February 23, 2017 Posted February 23, 2017 I trust the janitor to a degree, but he didn't say a word. Mile...eh. I would LOVE to hear Billy D is in but I'm exercising some caution here for sureI agree 100%. Mile steered people wrong with the whole Alabama thing, but Janitor also thought that had legs. Both seemed to get that wrong. I've seen Janitor right 99% of the time but as you said, he didn't really say anything. The plot thickens when IU is on a historic losing streak. As for Mile, I think he gets scoop but he is really straddling the whole topic and being very noncommittal. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners FortWayneHoosier 1 Quote
IU Hoosier41 Posted February 23, 2017 Posted February 23, 2017 Wow, I never read the forum back then when the accident happened, but I'm curious to know who might have been driving the car that night if it wasn't Holt. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Napleshoosier, HooHooHoo22 and kottke 3 Quote
HooHooHoo22 Posted February 23, 2017 Posted February 23, 2017 Sent from my iPhone using BtownBannersWow 1st time anyone has mentioned who it actually was Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app kottke, ThompsonHoosier and Yogi's Picnic Basket 3 Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted February 23, 2017 Posted February 23, 2017 Sent from my iPhone using BtownBannersReally? I thought I'd heard it was a girl(friend) who was trashed and underage. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Yogi's Picnic Basket, Str8Hoosiers, BtownBanner6 and 2 others 5 Quote
IU Hoosier41 Posted February 23, 2017 Posted February 23, 2017 Really? I thought I'd heard it was a girl(friend) who was trashed and underage. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBannersWhy would Holt cover for her? Makes more sense Holt would cover for a player on the team who was on zero tolerance... tis the old rumor anywaySent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Napleshoosier and WayneFleekHoosier 2 Quote
Brass Cannon Posted February 23, 2017 Posted February 23, 2017 6 minutes ago, IU Hoosier41 said: Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Wow unethical and a poor judge of talent on Creans part Quote
IU Hoosier41 Posted February 23, 2017 Posted February 23, 2017 Wow unethical and a poor judge of talent on Creans partDon't think anything was unethical on Crean's part. Hanner just never developed into his potential. I'd put that more on hanner than on Crean honestlySent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Julie Sturgeon and Bgrimm4 2 Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted February 23, 2017 Posted February 23, 2017 Why would Holt cover for her? Makes more sense Holt would cover for a player on the team who was on zero tolerance... tis the old rumor anywaySent from my iPhone using BtownBannersIDK. If she was a girlfriend there is reason to protect. Especially if he was significantly more sober. Although the Hanner thought lines right up. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Str8Hoosiers 1 Quote
HooHooHoo22 Posted February 23, 2017 Posted February 23, 2017 Really? I thought I'd heard it was a girl(friend) who was trashed and underage. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBannersIt would make more sense if it was a star like yogi or Troy. A player that had a chance to be something. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Yogi's Picnic Basket Posted February 23, 2017 Posted February 23, 2017 Tom Crean's senior night? People are gonna dissect every word of his speech this year even more so than in the past Sent from my iPhone using BtownBannersI was thinking the same. Crean may give his unformal goodbye speech. Cant wait honestly.Sent from my LGLS676 using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Brass Cannon Posted February 23, 2017 Posted February 23, 2017 1 minute ago, IU Hoosier41 said: Don't think anything was unethical on Crean's part. Hanner just never developed into his potential. I'd put that more on hanner than on Crean honestly Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners I would assume that if the janitor knew the truth so did Crean and he let Holt take the fall Bgrimm4 1 Quote
Popular Post MikeRoberts Posted February 23, 2017 Popular Post Posted February 23, 2017 Exactly. I want us to move on from Crean too, but some of this is too much. I hope it ends as amicably as possible, and no IU fan forgets how hard he worked to get us out of a complete sh!tstorm.I agree with this in general but many people overstate what he did as if he took over a charity case. He took over a head coaching job at a blue blood program making $3mm +. He also could have made the rebuild less of a rebuild. He inherited some really soft sanctions and a team with bad grades. He chose to completely overhaul he team and start with a team of walk-one. There were salvageable pieces on that team and he either forced them out or they left because they didn't want to play for him. There was no reason we had to be so bad for 3 years, that was on him.I too want this to end and end amicably and I wish him and his family well but we as fans and the school don't owe him anything beyond an additional $4mm and even that is insane. We should treat him and his family with dignity on the way out but the shitstorm he was in and stayed in was partially his own doing and other coaches in similar positions were able to recover quicker.Not a rant towards you, just have heard over and over for years how grateful we should be for the rebuild work... I just don't see it that waySent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Yogi's Picnic Basket, Happydaze, schoosier and 5 others 8 Quote
IU Hoosier41 Posted February 23, 2017 Posted February 23, 2017 I would assume that if the janitor knew the truth so did Crean and he let Holt take the fallDidn't come out til much much later. Police reports all indicated Holt. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Quote
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