TOM CREAN FIRED

[ap2345 9,609]

I have a confession to make. I have never been to an IU game at Assembly Hall. I have never wanted to spend the money to go watch Crean's crappy brand of basketball. 

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan 6,384]

Well, for the first year or 300 pgs. It was really just a bunch of guys throwing out names to see what everyone thought. Your name here kind of thing.
Then December 2016 came and things began to boil. Suddenly it was Brad Stevens. Stevens, Stevens, Stevens. If one didn't reference the name Brad Stevens within the post, they were placed on a 24hour suspension.
In early January we started trying Home Runs besides Stevens. Names like Miller, Holtman, Marshall, Donovan. Each poster would give reasons why his guy would fit.
By February we were in full on free-fall and we panicked. Some guy (insider) who don't know S*** put out some Jewel saying IU had contacted Donovan and he was interested in talking....Man, we jumped on that like a fat girl on a pork chop. Donovan, Donovan, Donovan. Saying Donovan wasn't coming would get you shanked in the parking lot.
Late February-Early March, some guy (insider) who don't know S***, claims that Steve Alford is coming home. Well, we all turned green and puked. Some liked it, most didn't. We put that to bed fairly quickly.
So we get to where we are now, with a group of guys that are pretty universally joined on one thing. A change needs to be made and made now. I think most of us have put the replacement 2nd to just getting the job done. That's likely why you are having difficulty seeing who people want as a new coach.


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That's a good synopsis.

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[TheWatShot 14,727]

7 minutes ago, ap2345 said:

I have a confession to make. I have never been to an IU game at Assembly Hall. I have never wanted to spend the money to go watch Crean's crappy brand of basketball. 

My first game was Nebraska. Hopefully your first one is better. 

[cappymo14 2,276]

I have a confession to make. I have never been to an IU game at Assembly Hall. I have never wanted to spend the money to go watch Crean's crappy brand of basketball. 

My first game was Nebraska. Hopefully your first one is better. 

My first was over Christmas break against the Badgers. Awesome time even though the students were gone. The game was rough, but still very fun to watch.

 

Edit: I would do it again, but only if the students were there. I'd also like the university to do something for me, the guy who spent an entire paycheck on gas, tickets, hotels, food and merchandise in two days. Make a change. The product is sour.

 

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[RobPoff 172]

Anyone else feel the same way after tonight's loss as they did after the sweet 16 loss to Syracuse? Just utter disbelief about underachieving? Watching the catastrophe tonight was one of the hardest things I've had to do as a Hoosier fan and I've been one for almost 3 decades.

I'm not sure who I want as our coach, but I know it can't be Tom Crean anymore. His time here is appreciated, but we deserve better. He revived the win column from Sampson's mess, but 9 years is plenty of time for an evaluation. Coach Crean is a good coach. Good is okay at some schools, but "it's Indiana...it's Indiana."

We as Hoosier fans have always been here and we aren't going anywhere. We were here long before him and will be long after. We need to be revived this time, not the program, the fans.

We have a solid foundation of players and the best facilities and one of the highest budgets in the country. It's time we started acting like it.

Would KU, Duke, UNC, UK, etc. put up with this inconsistency? No. If we are a top program, we should not either.

 

 

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[Magnanimous 4,725]

10 minutes ago, RobPoff said:

Anyone else feel the same way after tonight's loss as they did after the sweet 16 loss to Syracuse?

 

No. I was at the Syracuse loss and it sucked. I didn't bother watching tonight's game and it was great. 

[Maynard 561]

"It's mind-boggling, we don't practice that way." -Crean postgame 

Really Coach?  Maybe because the competition at practice (particularly the defense) ain't all that tough.   This is embarrassing.   There is NO coming back from this debacle.   #itsnotjustoneseason

 

[reconmkd 4,663]

My first was over Christmas break against the Badgers. Awesome time even though the students were gone. The game was rough, but still very fun to watch.
 
Edit: I would do it again, but only if the students were there. I'd also like the university to do something for me, the guy who spent an entire paycheck on gas, tickets, hotels, food and merchandise in two days. Make a change. The product is sour.
 
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My first game was this year vs Illinois. We won but it was still a tough game but wouldn't trade that experience for anything! My dad bought the tix for me for Christmas and went with me. Had staff section seats 30 rows off the floor, no students, but it was still amazing. Plan on at least getting tix for one game a year, but if CTC is still coach, I will wait if I have to till he is gone.


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[Whoozhers 3,744]

Annus Horribilis. We cannot have another year of this. That's all I got to say about that.


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[HoosierRob 1,042]

I don't see glass pulling the trigger

 

[HoosierSadaseci 2,258]

By Crean's post game comments it sounds like he plans on being back next season, but I also wouldn't expect him to say anything less.  I just really hope he moves on, or that Glass steps up, and removes him.

[reconmkd 4,663]

6 hours ago, AZ Hoosier said:

This is scary... Crean comes out dissing Georgia Tech for letting his friend, Brian Gregory, go prior to Pastner's hire... this guy just keeps making me more and more disgusted every time he opens his mouth.

He also blamed the injuries...

What a tool? Its not all sunshine and rainbows anymore, the fan base has sniffed you out and knows that you are full of Shitake Mushrooms! I think the statement that bothered me the most was the, "whether its year 1 or 10, I'm gonna coach the same way!" Seriously, 9 years of up and down success, no improvements in taking care of the ball or defense, same problems year after year, no offensive sets besides run and gun or weave and heave, turmoil within the teams, and the current downhill slide in recruiting, and you don't think that an adjustment or two in your coaching style would help? In the business world, CTC would have been fired years ago. You have to adapt to survive! We all know Coach Knight started to fade at the end of his reign at IU and I think part of it was his refusal to change with the times. We are on a dark path headed towards complete and udder irrelevance with this type of mentality. If the Sampson era was the dark ages of IU basketball, if a change is not made, this could become the black hole of no return! I for one can not fathom or handle the idea of IU being permanent bottom feeders of the state! IU is currently a fly that has been caught by a spider (CTC) that is about to take the last sip of IU's liquefied insides.

[Toothdr 66]

I'm guessing if Crean is here another year, the tables will turn on Mr. Glass also.


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[ctown2grhoosier 380]

This is scary... Crean comes out dissing Georgia Tech for letting his friend, Brian Gregory, go prior to Pastner's hire... this guy just keeps making me more and more disgusted every time he opens his mouth.
[/url] He also blamed the injuries...

He literally used every excuse. Brought up the fact that we beat KU and UNC, injuries, no leadership, and had to mention he won 2 B10 ships in 4 years! I'm so sick of this guy! No doubt he's coming back. Glass has already told him. In a punka** Glass move (imo) nothing will be announced. They're just hoping things die down with the end of the season here. Glass and Crean are both chicken s**ts! They both need to go!

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[coonhounds 9,851]

Last night went as expected now lets hope the right thing is done. Someone needs fired over what happened last night that is for sure

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[Class of '66 Old Fart 87,204]

"We've got to get better."  How many times have we heard that or seen that quote this season?  Good grief, we didn't start 4 freshmen and a sophomore.  The guys that played the bulk of the minutes were all seasoned D-1 veterans.  Our freshmen rarely got meaningful minutes and when they did and if they were positive minutes, it always seemed like they were taken out of the game and rarely seen again.  So coach, when do YOUR recruits get better?  When do YOUR recruits assume leadership?  When do YOUR recruits learn to play defense?  When do YOUR recruits learn to take care of the ball?  When do you start recruiting like you know what you're doing and hopefully it's no longer from Bloomington, IN.

Last night he said "I have to get better."  Geez louise, how many years have you been coaching (or whatever it is you call it)?  Maybe a coach with less than 10 years on the job says that, but a man with your years???????    You're way out of your league at IU and almost everyone knows it but you.

 

 

[A.j. Nigh 1,000]

6 hours ago, cdbecker832 said:

i'm not reading through 961 pages of posts

That's your problem then, because it'll answer your question.

[Hoosier Guy 7,789]

This guy is a complete . All he does is make excuses for why his team isn't good. He NEVER takes accountability and I am really damn tired of it. It's mostly Crean but Glass has to take blame as well. Glass started all of this crap with that ridiculous extension, S16 rings and cutting down the nets after a LOSS with an outright B1G championship on the line. Fred has allowed Crean to do whatever he damn well pleases. It's an absolute outrage and if Glass can't see that and does the unforgivable, he needs to be fired at the same damn time with Crean. With all that said, I still think Crean is gone but I wanna see a presser to validate it

 

[Class of '66 Old Fart 87,204]

The Board of Trustees have more on their plate than just the athletic department and that's why FG has the job.  But I cannot imagine that there is a single trustee who is happy with the product we put on the court this year.  Publicly they may couch their comments, but behind closed doors I have to believe they are just as upset as we are and there is pressure being brought to bear.  This debacle that has become Indiana basketball has to end.

[HoosierRob 1,042]

Any guy that has to bring up his accomplishments has serious issues. HE HAS TO GO.