TOM CREAN FIRED

[recker222000]

And if i said it was impossible you would be first one posting that it very likely could happen lol.

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Never going to happen. We have made the final once in 20 years.

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[Yogi's Picnic Basket]

 

No argument from me. Marshall is my 1 and Archie is my 2 (I don't consider Donovan realistic). I'd be extremely happy with either. I don't know the exact numbers with strength of schedule for Marshall at WSU and Winthrop vs. what Crean had at Marquette, or what Archie has had at Dayton. I'll take your word for it. No way of knowing if Marshall would have had the same success in the A10, the old C-USA, or if Crean would have been successful in Marshall's situation.

 

Each Marshall and Archie have their strengths and weaknesses. I see Marshall as a coach that's not going to get out-coached and will have his team ready to play night in and night out. He's a natural and has a commanding presence on the sideline. The question with him is how high is his ceiling, and can he recruit at a high enough level to compete for a national championship? Marshall has a high floor, he would have us in the top four in the B1G each year. But could he get us over the hump? I could see a Gary Williams-type career for him at Bloomington.

 

I see Archie as having an extremely high ceiling. I think Marshall would have us up and running faster, but Archie has the higher ceiling and has not peaked. No doubt that Archie in time would become an elite recruiter at Indiana. Higher risk than Marshall, but the potential is to get us back on par with UNC, UK, Duke and Kansas.

 

Either guy would bring better defense to B-town so I'd be happy with that.

 

 

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Nicely said. I agree with everything. We can talk about the competition and it is a factor to throw out but we have no real clue of what each would do. I think Marshall is a step above Crean I honestly just dont know how much, but at this point a new face is a breath of fresh air regardless and I would not mind Marshall one bit. Personally I would just make a couple calls before him. For some reason I think he goes to Illinois. Not over us but I can see it opening before and him taking it not knowing our situation if it even came down to it. Who knows neither may not even be candidates for the administration. Funnest part about it is not knowing and having convos about this guy and that guy.

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[pappy1865]

1 hour ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Greg Marshall looks too much like Crean for me. That's probably the worst reason not to want a coach, but oh well. I would prefer Holtmann over him tbh. 

Having him here in the Valley the last however many years, I'm just not sold on the dude.  

[VO5]

1 minute ago, Fkfootball1 said:

What about Mike White?

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One good year this year. I'll pass until he shows consistency

[kottke]

3 minutes ago, Fkfootball1 said:

What about Mike White?

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I like him quite a bit. If they end up going with a younger, less experienced coach, then I wouldn't be opposed. But he definitely wouldn't be my first choice.

[CR3AMnCR1MS0N]

If Billy did come, it wouldn't be till after the Thunder's season is over, right? I don't wanna wait that long!!!!!!!

[Brass Cannon]

1 minute ago, CR3AMnCR1MS0N said:

If Billy did come, it wouldn't be till after the Thunder's season is over, right? I don't wanna wait that long!!!!!!!

He could still announce he's coming here after his season is over and start putting his staff together and they can recruit for him till he's done. 

[ap2345]

4 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

He could still announce he's coming here after his season is over and start putting his staff together and they can recruit for him till he's done. 

Stephanie White announced mid season when she left the Indiana Fever for the Vanderbilt job. 

[Adillac]

Those pics of Crean with the blank face and the gif of him pulling up his pants...always make me laugh. This isn't a cheap shot, but they are so funny. 

[IU Hoosier41]

I think people underestimate how difficult the tournament can be to win a title. You need to have great players, great coaching, great chemistry, all clicking at the right time. There's no recipe to throw together and out pops a title. What I want is consistency. If you are consistently making the tournament and winning some games you out yourself in a position to make that title run. I tank that's what we all want. Obviously the number one goal is a title, but it's much more difficult to win one when you're not consistent. I don't know if it's fair, for lack of a better term, to pass on a coach just because they didn't win it all.

I love the back and forth this board brings, everyone brings valid points to both sides of the topic. I found it interesting to blindly look at some tourney finishes of some coaches for the last 5 seasons and then look who they belonged to. There's always more to the story than just the finish. Apologize ahead of time for the long post. But here's an example:

Coach A:
15/16 - Rd 32
14/15 - S16
13/14 - Rd 32
12/13 - FF
11/12 - Rd 64

Coach B:
15/16 - Rd 64
14/15 - S16
13/14 - NIT
12/13 - None
11/12 - Rd 32

Coach C:
15/16 - S16
14/15 - E8
13/14 - Rd 32
12/13 - Rd 32
11/12 - Rd 32

Coach D:
15/16 - Rd 64
14/15 - E8
13/14 - E8
12/13 - S16
11/12 NIT

Coach E:
15/16 - Rd 64
14/15 - FF
13/14 - E8
12/13 - S16
11/12 - S16

Coach F:
15/16 - S16
14/15 - Champ
13/14 - Rd 64
12/13 - E8
11/12 - Rd 64

Coach G:
15/16 - S16
14/15 - Rd 64
13/14 - None
12/13 - S16
11/12 - S16

Coach H:
15/16 - Runner Up
14/15 - S16
13/14 - Rd 32
12/13 - Rd 32
11/12 - E8

Coach I:
15/16 - Rd 64
14/15 - Rd 32
13/14 - E8
12/13 - none
11/12 NIT



Coach A - Marshall
Coach B - Bob Huggins
Coach C - Mark Few
Coach D - Sean Miller
Coach E - Izzo
Coach F - Coach K
Coach G - Crean
Coach H - Roy Williams
Coach I - Archie Miller

Now that I've typed all that out I don't really know what my point was but I didn't want to delete it. Obviously we all have our opinions as to why these coaches did or didn't do better this year or the next. Sorry for the long post, I'll retire for a couple days.

lol I literally just did that on the post comparing salary to tourney success. Typed it out, had no point and then posted it anyway lol.


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[dallas44]

Iuwins0708 just posted to "make sure you watch the news after IU is eliminated from the Big Ten tourney." 

 

Who's this?

 

I've been following Mile's post on 247

 

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[kottke]

12 minutes ago, dallas44 said:

Who's this?

 

I've been following Mile's post on 247

 

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He's another person with connections that posts good info on 247.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

2 hours ago, recker222000 said:

Lol we would have to win five in a row. Not happening.

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Currently we can't even win 1 in a row!

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

4 hours ago, Milldawg12 said:

Everyone's thoughts on Quin Snyder and what he has done with the Utah Jazz.......know he was fired by Mizzou, but that when they were still in the Big 12.

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No thank you.      http://www.sltrib.com/sports/1733924-155/clemons-missouri-snyder-season-ncaa-basketball

[SteelerHoosier]

3 hours ago, TheWatShot said:

Iuwins0708 just posted to "make sure you watch the news after IU is eliminated from the Big Ten tourney." 

 

Link? 

[nerdvana]

 

4 minutes ago, SteelerHoosier said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Link? 

 

 

 

Here it is. 

 

 

 

P.S. Not sure if it's kosher to link to other boards.  If not, then please delete.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Yogi's Picnic Basket]

I like him quite a bit. If they end up going with a younger, less experienced coach, then I wouldn't be opposed. But he definitely wouldn't be my first choice.

I like him as well!! I dont think he will mind if we dont reach out. He will end up at Duke as long as he keeps winning. Daddy is the AD. He is a very good coach too. Lost Egbunu and is still humming along when every media guy said UK has the SEC in the bag. I would like to see him a few more years but I can tell by watching them he will be a really good one.

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[Yogi's Picnic Basket]

DB Cooper. Don't give the FBI his number.

Post of the day

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[akhosrof]

Nicely said. I agree with everything. We can talk about the competition and it is a factor to throw out but we have no real clue of what each would do. I think Marshall is a step above Crean I honestly just dont know how much, but at this point a new face is a breath of fresh air regardless and I would not mind Marshall one bit. Personally I would just make a couple calls before him. For some reason I think he goes to Illinois. Not over us but I can see it opening before and him taking it not knowing our situation if it even came down to it. Who knows neither may not even be candidates for the administration. Funnest part about it is not knowing and having convos about this guy and that guy.

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I hear ya definitely the funniest part. Also the most exiting IMO. I'm really looking forward to seeing how our "coaching candidates" do in the tournament. Especially Holtmann, who's just hitting his stride with Butler. I currently have Holtmann as my #3 behind Marshall and Miller. However, if Holtmann gets Butler to the Sweet 16 or further, I think he deserves to be our #1. Such a run would not be a fluke. It would follow the path of progression Holtmann has shown the past couple seasons. That team has been awesome this season.

Collins, Marshall, Miller, Wojo, Holtmann, Prohm... lets see if any of these guys can put an exclamation point on their résumé!


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[Yogi's Picnic Basket]

I hear ya definitely the funniest part. Also the most exiting IMO. I'm really looking forward to seeing how our "coaching candidates" do in the tournament. Especially Holtmann, who's just hitting his stride with Butler. I currently have Holtmann as my #3 behind Marshall and Miller. However, if Holtmann gets Butler to the Sweet 16 or further, I think he deserves to be our #1. Such a run would not be a fluke. It would follow the path of progression Holtmann has shown the past couple seasons. That team has been awesome this season.

Collins, Marshall, Miller, Wojo, Holtmann, Prohm... lets see if any of these guys can put an exclamation point on their résumé!


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I dont like Holtman honestly not sure why I just think he is the Greg Marshall type. Stays where he is comfortable for awhile and rack up the wins. Just dont see him at a big time school. Probably wrong though. Your list is a lot of guys who are interesting. I have my own list of coaches I like not necessarily for IU but some. I want to see how Chris Beard if they make it, Andy Enfield, Chris Mack, Ed Cooley just cause I like him plus Holt but never want him here, Mike White who is a star on the rise and Tim Jankovich do. I see most of them becoming big names. I am also excited to see Collins but just like Beard nothing is really expected out of schools like their at so I wont take the tourney as their bad coaches of they fall flat. Beard has some work to do to make it but I wanna see him in the NIT too. I think they could win it.

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