TOM CREAN FIRED

[Yogi's Picnic Basket]

I think there's pretty solid anecdotal evidence of 2 things: 1) Greenspan actually wanted to hire Beilein from WVU but the buyout was too big (IIRC, this may have been before the BTN contract $$?)--Michigan had no problem coming up with the money; 2) the hiring of Sampson was driven by the then-IU President and one or more Trustees over the objections of, among others, the Athletic Director.

Exactly. If falls on more than the AD like you said though. Some boosters werent giving up money if it wasnt their guy. Our program was a mess and we had no leader. With Glass I have faith he can at least get a majority of the boosters and administration on the same page this time. Greenspan lost the vote of confidence when Bennett said no due to reasons Greenspan was involved with. EVERYONE wanted Bennett and it kinda deflated everyone after. I had heard Beilein was wanted but the money wasnt there. This time around money shouldnt be an issue like you said the big money from the tv deal was nonexistent then.

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[Ryno6284]

1 hour ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

But didn't he first commit to Xavier?  THat sticks in my feeble mind.

I thought it was Cincinnati.

[Trish]

I just have a feeling, no sources or info. But I just have this feeling Glass has met with Crean already and told him it's over. I think Glass is searching the field right now, seeing who may have interest. Just my feeling of the situation as to where it stands today.


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[Yogi's Picnic Basket]

I just have a feeling, no sources or info. But I just have this feeling Glass has met with Crean already and told him it's over. I think Glass is searching the field right now, seeing who may have interest. Just my feeling of the situation as to where it stands today.


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He is doing what NC State is doing he is just making sure no leaks are getting out. He doesnt want that reputation that IU handles these things like middle schoolers.

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[sierracoach]

24 minutes ago, Treesh said:

I just have a feeling, no sources or info. But I just have this feeling Glass has met with Crean already and told him it's over. I think Glass is searching the field right now, seeing who may have interest. Just my feeling of the situation as to where it stands today.


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If the rumors are true about how much the Creans, especially Joani, want out of Bloomington, CTC may not have waited for Glass's prompting but may have already told his agent to "start looking." Unfortunately for all parties involved, Crean's agent may be finding out that the opinion of his coaching abilities is not as high among other athletic directors as it is among media wannabes who sometimes are granted access to the IU program and reciprocate by calling CTC a "great strategist" in return.

[recker222000]

I just have a feeling, no sources or info. But I just have this feeling Glass has met with Crean already and told him it's over. I think Glass is searching the field right now, seeing who may have interest. Just my feeling of the situation as to where it stands today.


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Well if he hasn't there is really someone wrong with him. They is simply no way this should continue.

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[nerdvana]

12 minutes ago, sierracoach said:

If the rumors are true about how much the Creans, especially Joani, want out of Bloomington, CTC may not have waited for Glass's prompting but may have already told his agent to "start looking." Unfortunately for all parties involved, Crean's agent may be finding out that the opinion of his coaching abilities is not as high among other athletic directors as it is among media wannabes who sometimes are granted access to the IU program and reciprocate by calling CTC a "great strategist" in print.

My guess is that there are plenty of places that want Crean, but, the question to me is would he go there?  I think Tom Crean is basically a good guy, but I also thing he has a pretty big ego.  He'd likely go to Missouri or NC State (or some other power conference job that may open up), but I'm not sure that he'd take a mid-major job at this point.  And why would he?  The way I understand it, he'll get paid either way so why settle? 

[schoosier]

19 minutes ago, Yogi's Picnic Basket said:

 

He is doing what NC State is doing he is just making sure no leaks are getting out. He doesnt want that reputation that IU handles these things like middle schoolers.

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I just don't believe Glass has done this. Hope he proves me wrong.

[Old Friend]

1 hour ago, Str8Hoosiers said:

Why is Brad Stevens the only guy that fits that mentality?

Swing for the fences could mean Stevens or Fife or anybody for that matter.... Swing for the fences mentality means we go after THE guy that we believe is going to take the program back to elite status.... Don't let NO be an option, don't let money be a deterrent.... That is what Swing for the Fences means to me... it doesn't mean 1 person in particular.

The coach you described as wanting (without a name - just the attributes).... Would you not consider that a homerun if we hire somebody with all the qualifications you mentioned? That is swinging for the fence.

Because he's the only guy I can think of who would fit the criteria I mentioned above and also unite the fans.  Other "name" guys won't do that.    A home run hire won't be known for a few years unless it's Stevens.  He is the only known "home run" I know of.  Like I said, not my job to know who others are, but it's not someone like Marshall, etc.   Crean was a "name" because he went to a Final Four with Marquette.  We've seen what getting a "name" can look like.  Sampson was similar.  The only swing for the fences guy I know of who would fit in my opinion is Stevens.

[sierracoach]

4 minutes ago, nerdvana said:

My guess is that there are plenty of places that want Crean, but, the question to me is would he go there?  I think Tom Crean is basically a good guy, but I also thing he has a pretty big ego.  He'd likely go to Missouri or NC State (or some other power conference job that may open up), but I'm not sure that he'd take a mid-major job at this point.  And why would he?  The way I understand it, he'll get paid either way so why settle? 

IIRC, the AD at NCSU is a former outstanding BB coach herself and may have her own questions about CTC's coaching limitations. And, of course, they'll prefer Archie anyway. If Goodman and others are right about there being very little chance Miller goes to NCSU, that could imply that Archie feels there's a better job than NC State that's about to open up. Which could be IU, hypothetically. Or could be Ohio State, given how unhealthy Matta appears to be these days.

Mizzou might make sense, given the recruiting connections Crean's already established there and that, at the end of the day, it's still a football school with less pressure to achieve big things with its BB program.

I tend to agree with those people who say Washington's not gonna release Romar yet, given the talent he has coming in. But a year from now, who knows?

[Trish]

If Michigan collapses, could they part with Jim? Could make for Crean heading to Michigan with his brother in law..


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[Zach Farmer]

2 minutes ago, Treesh said:

If Michigan collapses, could they part with Jim? Could make for Crean heading to Michigan with his brother in law..


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The odds of Crean being the Michigan coach is as good as Knight becoming the IUBB coach again.

[sierracoach]

17 minutes ago, Old Friend said:

Because he's the only guy I can think of who would fit the criteria I mentioned above and also unite the fans.  Other "name" guys won't do that.    A home run hire won't be known for a few years unless it's Stevens.  He is the only known "home run" I know of.  Like I said, not my job to know who others are, but it's not someone like Marshall, etc.   Crean was a "name" because he went to a Final Four with Marquette.  We've seen what getting a "name" can look like.  Sampson was similar.  The only swing for the fences guy I know of who would fit in my opinion is Stevens.

Donovan IMO also fits the criteria and could unite the fans, maybe overnight. But he's almost as unobtainable, sadly, as Brad is--especially THIS year. A year from now, if Westbrook heads back to the West Coast, could be a different story with Billy. I wouldn't be shocked to see an A.D. like Jurich or Barnhart be able to hire him away from OKC if that franchise slips out of the playoffs down the road.

I just don't see Glass being comfortable with a guy like Marshall. Also don't see Bennett or S. Miller being seriously interested now. Few never has been interested.

That basically leaves a bunch of guys with promise, but who haven't actually done as much yet as Crean had when IU hired him. This whole thing is shaping up as a career-making or career-breaking decision for Glass.

[schoosier]

7 minutes ago, Treesh said:

If Michigan collapses, could they part with Jim? Could make for Crean heading to Michigan with his brother in law..


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Ha ha I would love to see it if he had to keep Meyer. They have a lot in common; both wrecked our program.

[Trish]

The odds of Crean being the Michigan coach is as good as Knight becoming the IUBB coach again.

So you're saying there's a chance? ;)


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[Parakeet Jones]

Haven't posted here in a long time. I've been reading though.

Take this fwiw, my father in law in Baton Rouge read a report from some source down there that LSU wants to pursue Crean.

I have no idea how reliable that source is. I think LSU would be a great for for him.

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[Trish]

Haven't posted here in a long time. I've been reading though.

Take this fwiw, my father in law in Baton Rouge read a report from some source down there that LSU wants to pursue Crean.

I have no idea how reliable that source is. I think LSU would be a great for for him.

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Welcome back. LSU would be a nice gig for him. I'd follow how he's doing down at LSU for sure.

Basically, any non basketball school would be a perfect match for Crean.


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[Hoosier Guy]

2 minutes ago, Parakeet Jones said:

Haven't posted here in a long time. I've been reading though.

Take this fwiw, my father in law in Baton Rouge read a report from some source down there that LSU wants to pursue Crean.

I have no idea how reliable that source is. I think LSU would be a great for for him.

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I agree. Crean at a football school would be an ideal scenario for him

[Magnanimous]

We may end up finishing 13th in the conference. 

[Yogi's Picnic Basket]

Has Blakeney and Sampson as well. We all know he loves his guards. I think he would do well anywhere down south. Always said his personality just fits down there.

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