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All over the national writers/talking heads is this notion that Indiana fans are these unreasonable rubes who just don't appreciate Tom Crean. Crean did a fine job and one that we appreciate.  Bu

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Let's all give Fred a "like" for steppin' up way more than we gave him credit for!  Thata boy Freddie!

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1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

Guys; passing along the info from a pm is a sure way to ensure that good info is no longer shared.
So I don't think y'all should hint around what you learned.

Yeah, thinking I should have kept this one close to the vest with the few of you I've known forever...at this point I'm really trying to keep up with the PM's.

I need everyone to realize that what I'm hearing is early, so things can change. That isn't to give me an out. I see how people are going to take it that way, but these things (and more so, recruiting) are so fluid.  But, if you know me, I'll be sure to check in. This is family after all...doesn't get easier than that. I'll be around with updates on this. 

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I'm with you. IMO I've only been happy with 1 season out of 9 for Crean, and that was 2011-2012, his first year with Zeller. Every other year was a disappointment IMO. I don't think he ever exceeded expectations. For last year I believe he achieved expectations, but I was still disappointed in him because Crean scheduled such a weak non-con, pus was unable to reschedule a game against UK, which forced us into a terrible seed in the tourney. I firmly believe had we scheduled better as played UK, we would have been in a different bracket and possibly made it to the elite 8. Overall though, 1 out of 9 years where he achieved expectations and never went beyond is such a disappointment for me.

Agreed. Creans most "impressive" year 12-13, was filled with disappointments. That season, we cut down the nets after a home loss to OSU. Embarrassing. Michigan collapsed in the last minute which is the only reason we won the BIG outright. Also should have lost to temple in round of 32 if it wasn't for the "watblock" and a clutch shot by Vic. That team had so much promise and faded near the end. 2011-12 was the only year I've been happy with an IU team under crean.

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Yeah, thinking I should have kept this one close to the vest with the few of you I've known forever...at this point I'm really trying to keep up with the PM's.

I need everyone to realize that what I'm hearing is early, so things can change. That isn't to give me an out. I see how people are going to take it that way, but these things (and more so, recruiting) are so fluid.  But, if you know me, I'll be sure to check in. This is family after all...doesn't get easier than that. I'll be around with updates on this. 



At least we are members only now. No more guest can read without signing up.


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Agreed. Creans most "impressive" year 12-13, was filled with disappointments. That season, we cut down the nets after a home loss to OSU. Embarrassing. Michigan collapsed in the last minute which is the only reason we won the BIG outright. Also should have lost to temple in round of 32 if it wasn't for the "watblock" and a clutch shot by Vic. That team had so much promise and faded near the end. 2011-12 was the only year I've been happy with an IU team under crean.


After the big win at MSU that year we finished the season 5-5. Such a disappointment! We had the #2 and #4 picks in the draft, 2 senior leaders who were both 1000 pt career scorers, and a McDonald's AA PG. Oh plus the 6th man of the year in the B10! We barley made it out of the 2nd rd and were embarrassed by the Cuse. I knew right then this was not going to work with TC. Since that season we're now going to lose 14+ games for the 3rd time in 4 years and miss the tourney for the 2nd time in 4 years. Last year was great, but we benefited from an easy unbalanced B10 schedule. Literally it was rank as the easiest schedule in the conference. If we played this years B10 schedule last year we'd probably have finishedI 3rd or 4th place in the B10 with a 6 or 7 seed in the tourney. Regular season B10 championship don't mean as much as they used to because of these unbalanced schedules. Back in the day u play every team twice, so u had the win games at PU, MSU, Wisconsin, etc, so it meant more. How can we say we're B10 Champs when we didn't play OSU, Mary, MSU, and Purdue twice? And the 1 time we did play OSU, Mary, and PU we played on our home floor. What happened when we played at MSU last year? 20 pt beat down! State finish 2 games behind us and got a 2 seed in the tourney! It's because the unbalanced schedule changes everything. I just don't understand how ppl can still support him. The data is in! The facts are right there in front of us! Tom Crean is not a high level coach! He's got to go!

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As soon as I think of all these names flying around and some not really setting well with me, I catch myself realizing that we don't really know what these coaches could do with the resources at Indiana.  Sure we can watch their current teams.  Or judge their records in and out of the tournament.   But we truly don't know what they could accomplish in the realm of what IU brings to the table.  Point being, their current situation could be holding back their full potential as a coach.  And unfortunately,  alot of times finding the right fit is a trial and error type of thing.  Reality.

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I will not understand if they don't make a run at Bennett. IU could offer him double what he's making and the resources along with it to become truly elite. If there is some ego thing because he turned it down in '08 that needs to be forgotten. He is the best bet we have to lure that is in the college ranks.

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If I remember right, Bennett's reason for not taking the job in 08 was that he didn't feel he was ready for a job on such a big stage. He was only 38 at the time, so that made sense. I would hope he's not still bitter about his sister getting fired. She was 57-93 at Northern Illinois and it was a different administration that fired her. 

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