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This post reads like you’ve seen the payroll and compared it to other payrolls you’ve seen.

IMO it’s pretty easy to get excited about this roster, even with valid questions about the 5 spot / defense. If Conerway and Bailey translate well the team can be very good IMO. I guess that’s a gamble in some ways and can be viewed as overpaying for “unheralded” guys (I don’t find that totally accurate). Maybe they seem like a reach if you were expecting us to sign Ian Jackson and Jayden Quaintnance (#1 ranked C on 247 is listed at 6’9 230…). I really value their mid-major productivity and think they’re a pretty good bet. TBD on some of the other guys, but I think we can be confident in a pretty competent rotation of 8 or so guys emerging as the season goes on. The years of suckage have really conditioned people to expect the worst, I think.

That’s how a market works. This is exactly how the market works in something like NFL free agency, which is basically an open bidding market with teams having variable amounts of money available. 1) You have to be the highest bidder, thus every signee is an “overpay” 2) it is always cheaper to keep your own players. Sometimes you get a hometown discount, but mostly because guys prefer not to move and you just wait to see what the market is and match it. It’s why even in the NFL you need to build through things like the draft. #2 is why guys like edey and Braden smith ultimately stay at Purdue despite fielding some huge offers. The best big time players don’t hit the market and it’s why teams go heavy after mid majors. People that were expecting a top ten NIL to translate to a top ten roster year one were simply unprepared for how the process would unfold. Teams that change coaches are at a disadvantage especially if they’re not bringing over a bunch of players from their old team. Apparently Dolson understood this and moved quickly to get CDD in early for a reason.

Every player committed had other p5 visits... either lined up or had taken them previously. Oh, well, Tucker didn't.

Not a single big on the staff. I was hoping for at least one rim protector.

No offense but you have quite literally zero credentials to tell anyone how much these players cost on the open market.

The point the Debbie downers were trying to make was basically our roster isn’t as good as it could be because we didn’t spend money. (Paraphrasing here) Regardless, this roster looks solid by all accounts, especially on the shooting front. If our main weakness is “rim protection” I can live with that in year 1 of a “tear it down to the studs” rebuild.

No Mike Woodson guys on the roster is enough for me to get excited about the team.

DeVries is cooking. Just stole an SEC teams top assistant. A sec team that just went to back to back elite 8s. Not even May and DeVries has 3 assistants that are known to get dudes and has a roster of 11 possibly 12. Heck of a job in my opinion. Impressed

There is a lot of insanity happening right now. Gonzaga is not looking good. I think we got good value based on market prices and how astronomical it is. In addition, there have been kids who have signed but are still shopping themselves around. None of our kids but others.

Honestly we have a Hell of a good looking coaching staff. DeVries is killing it. So looking forward to watching a well-coached team again, that spaces the floor, gets out fast in transition, and drains 3’s.

Because multiple reputable sources have said so and every guy we’ve added we’ve been competing against power conference teems for. the evidence we didn’t pay $10M is waynefleekhoosier said so without having access to any information whatsoever.

For such a bad portal class IU is ranked 8th on 247 and 9th on ON3

Somebody sees a for sale in a gif and suddenly Leal is the talk of btb. Unreal.

So we might not be a perfect "rim protecting" team or "rebounding" team.... we were absolutely pathetic rebounding this past year, so that doesn't worry me in the least bit.... Really... Trey Kaufmann is about the only individual who really worries me. And he'll have to guard TDV on the other end, and the South Dakota kid will have to guard Bailey. I like that.

Who gives a chit what these guys are getting paid? Not like we’ve spent so much we can’t fill out the roster. Money ball, overpay, market value… we’re all p!ssing into the wind over here without a clue, lmao. And we really think Trilly Donovan’s basically got the financial figures for everyone on every roster? The way he/they are perceived as a golden source of truth is pretty humorous considering they’ve admitted to not being as tapped into IU. Perhaps that’s changed with the new staff but I highly doubt they’re just sharing anything and everything with “Trilly Donovan” because he’s oh so trustworthy. And any intel from agents should be taken with a huge grain of salt. I’m an IUBB fan, couldn’t give a crap what the payroll is. Just win. I think this roster and coach can do that. Gonna have to wait to find out.

I tried explaining this in vain earlier in the thread. A guy like PJ Haggerty, who is really good, reportedly turned down $3m from Memphis as he was asking for $4m. Ole Miss reportedly offered him $3.5m. So the idea that all-conference mid major guys like Bailey or Conerway are making $1m+ should be pretty easy to see why this is the case. Conerway especially given he was the Sun Belt POY, really excited to have him.

It's part of it, but our average recruit ranking is still fairly high, it's 12th in the top 50, and that factors in several teams that only brought in 2 players. It's a very good class by recruiting rankings (not that means much, considering a guy like Carlisle was ranked 14th overall last year).

People who have access to the payroll don’t strike me as the type who would spend their time on BtownBanners lmao

Did Louisville go cheap last year? They spent and arguably a similar if not a worse on paper roster. DD spent what he had to and got (mostly) the kids he wanted.

Could be close. 2 mil each for DeVries and Wilkerson, that’s 4 mil. Than $500,000 each for 10 guys and that’s $5 mil. Add together for $9 mil. Seems to me more than likely we are at $10 mil or well over it for a 13 man roster, once its complete. I still believe you are a star gazer and want buzz. I want wins. Both would be great but that wasn’t ever going to happen unless we spent like $20 mil and just poached from every top team.

I don't Kenny Johnson is pretty big.

And not a peep from Goodman, he must only report assistants we talked to who didn't take the job.

I don’t necessarily think Bailey/Alexis/Harris is a bad rotation at the 5 (and of course 2 of those 3 will see time at the 4 too). But the fact they’ve sniffed around other, less offensively versatile screen/dive/block/board/dunk bigs suggests to me they can still add one, despite Tyme et al making hedged suggestions that the roster is basically finished. If you’re looking for a part-time player, 15-20 minutes or less depending on opponent, I don’t think it’s a terribly rare and thus expensive thing.

I actually think DeVries is very hands on and is going to be the main developer and will have coaches just develop certain aspects of a position. Like KJ I believe is good at developing bigs. Clark seems to be good at recruiting and developing wings or bringing in ones that don’t really need additional development