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Not at all. Ya’ll make this thread miserable to even read. Good lord this constant ******** and crying about every little thing gets old.

Yes, and a lot of people with kids, who would much rather watch the scrimmage, bite the bullet and get in line, because they don't want to miss out on the kid getting an autograph. For the record, I said I would quit coming if they did away with the scrimmage, didn't say I would quit coming if some popular rapper also performed. Seems like Sampson tried to go that route (can't remember the rapper or his star power) with Devin Ebanks, Lance Stephenson and group.

I haven't posted much this year, but figured this might be a good time to start... - Friends, you could see this one coming a mile away. And I am not talking about IU losing to MSU. I'm talking about fans upset/baffled that their team plays well one week and not so much the next. This isn't just an IU thing. This happens a LOT in college sports. Inconsistencies. Unless you are one of the 3-4 best teams in the nation, this happens. You play really well one week. You're feeling good. Then next week happens and you struggle. College football does not operate through the transitive property. Every week can be/usually is something different. One week does not define a team. But a series of games can. And what that has shown us is that IU is a 3-1 team. Not a great team. But not bad, either. Decent. Doubtful we contend for the Big Ten. Probable we can contend for a bowl. - Now... back to the game (as Coach Knight would say.) Yes, I was disappointed. Particularly because MSU didn't play that well, IMO. That is, except their defensive front seven (more on that in a minute.) They turned it over 4 times. They struggled running the ball. Lewerke wasn't particularly sharp. If we played well, we could have won this one. But we didn't. So why didn't we play well? - Let's start with the typical "bad break" for IU. The INT return for TD in the first quarter. Yes, we've seen this too many times before in our history... and it stinks! We were driving and that absolutely killed momentum. It put us behind the 8-ball early and we could never fully recover. Throw in a few other deals like the fake FG TD and those are plays we need to go our way in a game like this. They didn't and we lost by 14. - We heard about how good their D-Line was. And they lived up to the hype. 4 sacks. 9 TFLs. Countless QB hurries. And they held us to 29 yards on 32 carries... that's a 0.9 avg. for those who are interested. Quote simply, our O-Line was thoroughly beaten. They played a bad game and that really hurt us. I saw some people say, "Welcome to the Big Ten, Stevie Scott." Well, yeah. But where was he supposed to go? Just a tough night. - Peyton Ramsey. Friends, he what he is. I said this last year against Michigan and MSU and I'll say it again this season. When he runs the offense, we rely on dinks and dunks. We just do. And against mediocre defenses, that may be enough to win. But against good defenses, we'll struggle to score points. As Wayne said above, the offense is tailored around his strengths. We rely on guys like Philyor, Timian, Harris and Taylor to catch short passes and create yards after catch. Notice how many targets they get compared to our outside receivers with Hale and Westbrook? Those are two great talents at WR, but we can't get them the ball. That's frustrating. Is that a QB problem? Maybe. - Does that mean I was clamoring for Penix? Not exactly. He wouldn't have had time to throw. It's not like our O-Line was suddenly going to pass protect better for Penix. And I dunno if that would have been the best growing opportunity to throw Penix out there in that mess anyway. My hope is that I hope our O-Line gets back on the right track with pass protection (and run blocking) and that we start throwing the ball downfield a bit more. I'm not asking for 20+ yard throws. I''d just like to see a few more 10-15 yd. out routes to Hale and Westbrook. I don't feel they've been utilized well and they're legitimate weapons. Can Ramsey do that? Is Penix ready for it? Evidently, the answer was "no" last night. - I really can't blame our defense. They kept it from getting ugly. Ball had himself a night before his ejection. They were getting some good pressure in the backfield. Had 4 takeaways. But again, we got beat on that last 75 yard run that sealed the game. Just tough. But all in all, I am still very impressed with Allen's defense. He knows how to coach it and with him in charge, we've seen three of the best defenses we've had in decades. I think some forget how impressive that is at IU. - So where do we go from here? Thankfully, we get Rutgers next. Fortunately for us, they have looked downright pathetic this year. However, as fans of IU, we know that we can never take anyone for granted and we are capable of losing on any given night. BUT! I think/hope that the Hoosiers are going to have a mad/rejuvenating week of practice this week. I think you'll see us click and get back on the right track and come out of Piscataway with a win. While I don't believe our offense as-is can lead us to victories against Ohio State, Penn State or Michigan, I do believe we're capable of beating the likes of Minnesota, Maryland and Purdue. I think if our O-Line gels better the Iowa game is a possibility as well. Long story short... I still think 6-6 and a bowl game is entirely possible and we're right there in the thick of things. But for those expecting an 8-9 win season, I am afraid you're going to be disappointed. But that's just my opinion.

I thought it might be interesting to track how the computers see the team as the season goes along. Right now S&P+ thinks we have about an 80% chance to go bowling, and could end up having a really nice year overall with a few lucky bounces. It's looking more and more like the plan is to redshirt Penix, which I agree with, but I think we still need to give Ramsey more intermediate passing routes to target to really unlock the offense. Our defense, a question mark coming into the year, is currently ranked in the top 20 but our offense is outside of the top 75. I think we have talent on that side of the ball we just need to press a bit more than we do right now. Hopefully Rutgers sees us get ahead by a few scores and experiment a bit in a game setting

My two cents is we should have let Dabord retire after he left UT but understand Allen trying to help a friend. But he has to be able to fire him after this season if things don't change. Also same old Ramsey, he can beat FIU, BSU but he is never going to beat a good team. They will play press man and make him throw it downfield and he simply just can't do that.

Every Colts site is like this. The game threads over on Stampede Blue will make you want to give up on humanity.

Also, plenty of people "leave" early to get in line for autographs after the scrimmage. They could probably make that process a little better, somehow.

Seems to me that most of these early leavers are also the "real game" late arrivers.

For the third time, how do you know? What is your source? I have looked everywhere. Also for the third time, why not both? Is there some kind of rule that can't happen? After all Hoosier Hysteria is also about fans. Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk

It can not be a fact that all recruits do not like scrimmages. That is implying all think the exact same and i can not accept that. Who cares anyhow they are going to scrimmage and this debate dont matter until they actually drop it from the program Sent from my SM-G920V using BtownBanners mobile app

I try not to read game threads during gametime. Just for this reason.

In my opinion, Nebraska should be glad they play in the west division. Beat downs like they just got could happen with greater frequency. On the bright side, maybe they can get a win this coming weekend when they host Purdue. I'll be pulling for them.

Maybe get Past players to come in and do a 10 minute scrimmage with the team? Celebrate the future and past? Is this allowed? It would be amazing. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners

This is one of the silliest debates in BTB history. Fact 1. It's for the fans and recruits. Fact 2. It's ultimately a basketball showcase and introduction to the team. Fact 3. Players and recruits would enjoy some big stage entertainment and showmanship. Not a fact 1. Recruits don't like scrimmages. Not a fact 2. You Can't have both basketball related entertainment (scrimmage, dunk, 3 pt) AND some sort of musical entertainment. Count me in the crowd that would enjoy more entertainment but clearly not at the expense of what the event is really about. So...... Now let's debate WHO we should get to perform. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners

We'll never win another football game, ever never. We didn't look great but the game was lost on a few plays. - bad bounce off RBs hand that led to MSU TD - fake FG for a TD - having to sellout late and MSU with a long TD We're not terrible but we still do IU football things. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

Personally, I dont really give a [emoji90] what happens at HH. Everything the team does is either for recruiting, fans, or both, so please at least one of those groups and it’s a win. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

I believe Arch never felt good about him but went thru the process out of respect to Christian. I think it’s been Penny all along.

2nd OV this weekend.

Jeremy Gray said in a podcast he saw the budget and its far above what has been spent in the past. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Lmao. Fran is delusional. This is starting to be the most fun off season side story. “Franimal the Animal Does Indiana” Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

I go usually every year. The people that usually are getting in line for the autographs go every year and are season ticket holders. Most of the people I talk to have collections they add to. To be fair not everyone goes for the scrimmage. They go for that. Much like a Romeo game. If you didn’t get up at the start of the fourth quarter you were waiting a longer time for your autograph if that makes sense. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

2 CB flips from Duke to Cloudy today from Evan Daniels and Josh Gershon. That's 3 flips to cloudy in the last week...now work your magic Archie! Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

IU sweeps the first day, 3-0 vs Xavier and 3-2 vs Cincinnati! Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

This is Trigger. Loved the show as a kid and will still watch the old movies when I can.

Edwards may have been the leading scorer but he benefitted greatly from his big man being the most efficient player. Doubtful he has that this coming season.