go iu bb Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 I just hope FSU and UM both win so that the committee isn't let off the hook and has to make the decision and then justify it. Alford Bailey and LamarCheeks 2 Quote
LamarCheeks Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 I have to admit, I had not seen Iowa play this year. Jeeze -- their QB is a load. Quote
Hoosierfan1901 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 1 minute ago, LamarCheeks said: I have to admit, I had not seen Iowa play this year. Jeeze -- their QB is a load. Backup QB, but he is like 6’4 260 Quote
go iu bb Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 How dumb is FSU's QB? Just run it out of bounds for a huge loss instead of throwing it away? Really? Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: I disagree. To me, beating the undefeated 2x defending champion in your conference title game is a better win than a week 2 win. Bama isn’t the same team it was then. This is FSU’s resume. Does anyone really think FSU is one of the four best teams in the country with its backup quarterback and Alabama isn’t? Bama needed a desperation throw to beat Auburn in the last minute. Saying they aren't the same team in week 2 as they are now belittles the fact that they've had close calls all year against teams that aren't that strong. And again, the record of team's that have beaten Florida State still stands at 0-0. You can add Louisville to the win list if they beat them tonight, and they would be 10-3. So that would be eight wins against bowl eligible teams. Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 57 minutes ago, go iu bb said: How dumb is FSU's QB? Just run it out of bounds for a huge loss instead of throwing it away? Really? freshman third string QB in a conference championship game. go iu bb 1 Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 Iowa is the single least enjoyable to watch 10 win team I've ever seen. johnsoniu, thebigweave, AKHoosier and 2 others 5 Quote
go iu bb Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 Just now, RaceToTheTop said: Iowa is the single least enjoyable to watch 10 win team I've ever seen. Both of these championship games are brutal to watch. Quote
Hoosierfan2017 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 26 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said: Bama needed a desperation throw to beat Auburn in the last minute. Saying they aren't the same team in week 2 as they are now belittles the fact that they've had close calls all year against teams that aren't that strong. And again, the record of team's that have beaten Florida State still stands at 0-0. You can add Louisville to the win list if they beat them tonight, and they would be 10-3. So that would be eight wins against bowl eligible teams. The ACC is easily the worst P5 conference. FSU looks absolutely terrible tonight. What’s the argument for putting them in the playoff? They’ve beat four teams with winning records this year. They’re not one of the four best teams in the country. Not with Travis gone. I understand that people love to hate the SEC but keeping Alabama out would be silly. Quote
maharkn Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 Iowa is the single least enjoyable to watch 10 win team I've ever seen.That offense is so bad. Thankfully divisions are ending, the big ten is embarrassing itself Sent from my Pixel 6a using Tapatalk Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 15 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: The ACC is easily the worst P5 conference. FSU looks absolutely terrible tonight. What’s the argument for putting them in the playoff? They’ve beat four teams with winning records this year. They’re not one of the four best teams in the country. Not with Travis gone. I understand that people love to hate the SEC but keeping Alabama out would be silly. I don't hate the SEC. It is the best conference in football, although this season I would say that margin is as small as it has been in recent memory. But you are even saying Alabama should be in over Texas, whom they lost to. Sagarin rates Texas' SOS as 2nd in the country; Alabama is 15th. Texas will move to the #1 SOS after today's championship game, Alabama will move to around 5. So you are discounting both an undefeated record in one case AND a head to head victory in another case. Texas had the same record, had BOTH the best regular season AND conference title championship AND a schedule ranked the toughest in the country. Exactly how are you moving Alabama ahead of Texas? Quote
johnsoniu Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 52 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said: Iowa is the single least enjoyable to watch 10 win team I've ever seen. Unfortunately I’ve subjected myself to about 5 of their games because i kept betting on the over (and losing). i can enjoy a good defensive battle, but they are just brutal offensively. Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 33 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: The ACC is easily the worst P5 conference. FSU looks absolutely terrible tonight. The offense looks terrible. The defense looks pretty damn dominant. And if we are going to disqualify teams for looking really bad during a late season win, let's eliminate Alabama due to their Auburn win. Quote
Hoosierfan2017 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said: I don't hate the SEC. It is the best conference in football, although this season I would say that margin is as small as it has been in recent memory. But you are even saying Alabama should be in over Texas, whom they lost to. Sagarin rates Texas' SOS as 2nd in the country; Alabama is 15th. Texas will move to the #1 SOS after today's championship game, Alabama will move to around 5. So you are discounting both an undefeated record in one case AND a head to head victory in another case. Texas had the same record, had BOTH the best regular season AND conference title championship AND a schedule ranked the toughest in the country. Exactly how are you moving Alabama ahead of Texas? Where am I moving Alabama ahead of Texas? Both should be in the playoff. FSU shouldn’t be. If you think FSU should be in because they ‘deserve’ it by going undefeated, fine. But do you think FSU is a top 4 team? go iu bb 1 Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: Where am I moving Alabama ahead of Texas? Both should be in the playoff. FSU shouldn’t be. If you think FSU should be in because they ‘deserve’ it by going undefeated, fine. But do you think FSU is a top 4 team? If you are asking me if Florida State would be favored against Alabama on a neutral field -- even if Florida State had their starting QB -- absolutely not. Washington wouldn't either and they would likely be an underdog playing Michigan, Alabama, Georgia, and Texas. So should we eliminate Washington? I think you would agree that if Washington and Georgia had a pick 'em line, you'd put money on Georgia over Washington. It's my opinion that the teams with the best season should be in the BCS, not the ones who would be favored. If Alabama's fourth and 31 pass had fallen incomplete against Auburn, they are still the same team they are now....but would you argue that if they were 11-2 they should be in over Florida State because they are better than Florida State? Wins and losses matter IMO. Quote
Hovadipo Posted December 3, 2023 Author Posted December 3, 2023 Just a reminder - the committee “claims” (do with that what you will) that their job is to pick the 4 BEST teams, not the 4 most deserving. Meaning, to me, that they can do whatever tf they want with this thing. If it were truly the 4 best teams, tomorrow they’d be announcing Michigan, Georgia, Bama, and Ohio State. My ideal playoff would be Michigan, Washington, Texas, Alabama as a fan of the sport. I’m a “what have you done for me lately” guy and if not for Travis’ injury, FSU gets the nod over Bama. That Texas/Bama/UGA convoluted mess is…….a mess. thebigweave and go iu bb 2 Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 I will say I’m fine with Florida State losing…..don’t care for their program. I just think if a power 5 team can go undefeated and get left out of the BCS, what was the point of them playing their games? thebigweave, Redcamaro, go iu bb and 2 others 5 Quote
KingPG21 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 NCAA: "Louisville. FFS do something right, we need an excuse to not put FSU in with how bad they are offensively w/o Jordan Travis." ACC: "FFS, is there some way we can get FSU a different QB? go iu bb 1 Quote
Jeff Flabjohns Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 18 minutes ago, Hovadipo said: Just a reminder - the committee “claims” (do with that what you will) that their job is to pick the 4 BEST teams, not the 4 most deserving. Meaning, to me, that they can do whatever tf they want with this thing. If it were truly the 4 best teams, tomorrow they’d be announcing Michigan, Georgia, Bama, and Ohio State. My ideal playoff would be Michigan, Washington, Texas, Alabama as a fan of the sport. I’m a “what have you done for me lately” guy and if not for Travis’ injury, FSU gets the nod over Bama. That Texas/Bama/UGA convoluted mess is…….a mess. I think you’ll get your wish. Bama is in over UGA, and if you put in Bama you HAVE to put in Texas. FSU and OSU are both outside looking in. Would be an awful break for the Seminoles Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 Silly play review here. EDIT: I thought they ruled incomplete on the field. Quote
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