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8 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Would be brutal. At Georgia, At Texas about as tough a draw we could get if it holds.


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My gut says that the winners of conference championships might move up slightly if they win while the losers move down a little if they lose.....but will not be removed from the CFP even with a loss.

The #1 seed could be Oregon, Texas, or Penn State.  If Oregon wins they are the 1.  If Texas wins and Oregon loses, Texas is the 1.  If Penn State wins and Texas loses, Penn State is the 1.

I think if Penn State loses, they will flip spots with Notre Dame.

Georgia will be the 2 seed if they beat Texas.

 

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3 hours ago, LamarCheeks said:

If Iowa State beats Arizona State, that seems pretty simple -- ISU just takes ASU's spot. 

But what if Clemson beats SMU? Clemson has to get in. I guess Alabama gets bumped in that case? 

Correct.

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3 hours ago, Hovadipo said:

I could see them just tossing SMU in favor of Bama. Especially if Clemson wins convincingly. It’s gross but you can’t tell me it isn’t possible. 

I wouldn't say it's impossible but the committee has been saying that they aren't going to remove teams for losing conference championships.

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2 hours ago, rcbowla said:

They are the least worrisome of the 3 I mentioned. Would you be surprised to see IU bounced for Bama? Under the worst case scenario of 3 autos not in top 12 I could see it.

Indiana is at #9 in the rankings.  It is not possible for three auto bids to bounce them out of the tournament.  The reason that IU is seeded 11th is to allow the auto bids at #3 and #4.  The last auto bid is currently seeded 12.

The worst case scenario would be Clemson beating SMU and the committee not readjusting SMU's ranking which is one ahead of IU.  But in that scenario, IU would just move from 11 to 12.  It is not possible for the Big 12 or the Mountain West to steal an extra spot from IU because there is no current Big 12 or Mountain West team ranked ahead of IU.  Both the MWC and Big 12 will be one bid leagues.

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10 hours ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Indiana is at #9 in the rankings.  It is not possible for three auto bids to bounce them out of the tournament.  The reason that IU is seeded 11th is to allow the auto bids at #3 and #4.  The last auto bid is currently seeded 12.

The worst case scenario would be Clemson beating SMU and the committee not readjusting SMU's ranking which is one ahead of IU.  But in that scenario, IU would just move from 11 to 12.  It is not possible for the Big 12 or the Mountain West to steal an extra spot from IU because there is no current Big 12 or Mountain West team ranked ahead of IU.  Both the MWC and Big 12 will be one bid leagues.

I know all of that. My entire scenario hinged on the committee putting Alabama in over IU in said scenario. There is no reasoning for it other than "Bama".

[Hoosierfan2017 21,161]

I don’t think Alabama deserves the final spot, but the complaints from the Miami fans are rich. Sure, Alabama is ranked where it is because of the brand, but Miami was also over ranked because of its brand. They weren’t impressive all year. Now they have two losses on top of a 7 point win against Louisville, a 4 point win against Virginia Tech, and a 1 point win against Cal. IU, for example, has 11 wins, 10 of them by 14+ points, and we’re only a few spots ahead of Miami. Sorry Miami fans, but you just ran into a bigger brand in Alabama. Neither of you deserve the spot. 

[IUHoosierPenguin 12]

Two questions: (1) Is there any conceivable way that IU could host a playoff game? (I don't think so but wondered what permutations I may have missed that would result in something like that.) (2) What are the chances that IU will not play either Texas or Georgia? (If so, who else could they play?) 

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12 hours ago, JerryYeagley23 said:

I’m 100% behind this as well, although no chance it will happen because of the money involved with those bowls who will demand the big revenue fan bases that travel in their games. But wouldn’t it be cool if one year we have a season similar to Illinois this year at 9-3 and got to go to the Rose Bowl? How much more would that mean to a team than it will for a UGA/Bama/Tx/OSU, etc. who treat it as a stepping stone to the semifinals? Also, I went to Jacksonville for our trip to the Gator Bowl in 2020, and the week leading up to the game was packed with things for the team and events that celebrated their season. As much as the playoffs are going to mean a lot, missing that bowl game experience for teams who don’t host the game is a loss. It’s just going to feel like a road game at some point even if it’s a big time game obviously. 

I think it would be cool. Just because a team misses the playoffs doesn't mean it was a bad season. This way the next 12 teams get to play in a very good bowl. Even in the CFP era I still enjoyed watching NY6 bowls evern tho some players sat out. Unless IU is ever playing in them I'll probably never watch any of the other bowl games. Just like I have zero interest in the NIT..

Basically it would be 1) College Football playoff; 2) NY6 Bowls; 3) Any other bowls. 

Will the Rose Bowl be the semifinal every year? I can't see them ever moving it away from January 1st at 5:00...

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1 minute ago, IUHoosierPenguin said:

Two questions: (1) Is there any conceivable way that IU could host a playoff game? (I don't think so but wondered what permutations I may have missed that would result in something like that.) (2) What are the chances that IU will not play either Texas or Georgia? (If so, who else could they play?) 

I can't see them playing Georgia as they will either move up or down. I don't see a home game unless Penn State and Georgia lose in a blowout fashion. Might need SMU to lose just so we jump them in the overall rankings. 

[DChoosier 8,213]

I’m just glad we are safely in. No way we fall out of the playoff with our current position ranked 9th with a 10 seed.

As far as Alabama…what a joke.  If that exact same team wore IU jerseys with three losses, 2 of them against mediocre/terrible teams with one of the losses only two weeks ago, they would be lucky to be ranked in the 20-25 range. Oh well, we are in and they are in jeopardy if Clemson wins the ACC.

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For anyone planning on going, is the best strategy to wait to buy tickets Sunday once the slate is locked?  Better to get through IU or a ticketmaster type source?  Any reason to think that it wont be very expensive ticket to get?

[Hovadipo 55,507]

1 minute ago, 8bucks said:

For anyone planning on going, is the best strategy to wait to buy tickets Sunday once the slate is locked?  Better to get through IU or a ticketmaster type source?  Any reason to think that it wont be very expensive ticket to get?

I've been struggling with this all week. I'll probably start by seeing if there's a chance of getting 2 out of IU's allotment as a season ticket holder. Beyond that, just going to track prices on resale sites. Prices will be nuts.

[Lebowski 2,551]

Ok a few things here. 

First and foremost, IUFB is a lock!!!! We're playing for the hardware baby! I like our chances regardless where we play in the first round. Looking forward to that first round game. 

Seeding discussing
Yes, there needs to be an adjustment about the auto seeding vs rankings. However, I do not agree that the bowls shouldn't be apart of the playoff. I've always been an advocate to have every game in the CFP on a neutral field and basically use all the bowls as the neutral fields. Where the higher seeds get a regional bowl game assigned to them. For example, if Penn State where the higher seed in the first round they would be playing in the Military Bowl in Annapolis, MD. If ND were the higher seed they would be playing in the Gameabove Sports Bowl in Detroit, MI. Dawgs would be playing in the Cricket Celebration Bowl in Atlanta. Put O$U at the Music City Bowl in Nashville. Keep the assigned bowls in the quarterfinals and semifinals. I do understand the logistics of it would be a nightmare and the likelihood of it happening is slim to none. But doing something like this format will make all the money grabs and traditionalist (folks that want to experience a bowl game) happy. And with it only being four games it can be done theoretically. 

12 Team CFP Format
I have a desire to expand the CFP to at least a 16 team playoff. This format will eliminate first round byes and the Bama over Miami discussion isn't really that much of a problem. If the CFP were set to 16 the discussion would be about 3 loss schools getting in over each other. With the exception of the current Big 12 perception problem. Regardless there will always be schools that get snubbed and that discussion will always occur. 

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3 minutes ago, 8bucks said:

For anyone planning on going, is the best strategy to wait to buy tickets Sunday once the slate is locked?  Better to get through IU or a ticketmaster type source?  Any reason to think that it wont be very expensive ticket to get?

I think it's safer to wait unless you want to purchase tickets to every stadium and then resell the ones you don't need.  At this point IU could be playing at one of Notre Dame, Penn State, Georgia, Texas, Tennessee, Ohio State, or even Oregon is things get crazy this weekend.

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11 minutes ago, Lebowski said:

Ok a few things here. 

First and foremost, IUFB is a lock!!!! We're playing for the hardware baby! I like our chances regardless where we play in the first round. Looking forward to that first round game. 

Another nice dynamic:

We are in contention to play the loser of a conference championship game. That team will have less rest, more injury potential, and more potential for a let down; a conference runner-up is just a little more likely to exhale after their championship big game before they play IU. And among our most likely opponents are Penn St, Georgia, Texas, and Oregon, but only if they lose this week in their extra game.

Finally, as I have have heard from a reliable P4 coaching source this week, "We're not satisfied and we're not done."

[Magnanimous 4,553]

Wherever we play, unless it’s @Eugene, I will be there. I’ve had a side pocket of credit card cash back rewards I’ve been saving to use for the 2026 World Cup final. fIUck that, go Hoosiers!

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17 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Another nice dynamic:

We are in contention to play the loser of a conference championship game. That team will have less rest, more injury potential, and more potential for a let down; a conference runner-up is just a little more likely to exhale after their championship big game before they play IU. And among our most likely opponents are Penn St, Georgia, Texas, and Oregon, but only if they lose this week in their extra game.

Finally, as I have have heard from a reliable P4 coaching source this week, "We're not satisfied and we're not done."

The thing that’s grinding on me a bit, and it shouldn’t because this is as gravy as gravy gets, but it does, is that there is a perfectly reasonable, maybe even likely, outcome here where Penn St and Texas lose this weekend and IU ends up ranked behind 5 2-loss teams and plays a road playoff game. 5 2-loss teams. At some point wins and losses should matter in this piece and 2-loss teams should not be getting home games.

[Lebowski 2,551]

Honestly, I'd prefer the "FCS style" playoff. Here is what it would look like if it started tomorrow. 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Lebowski said:

Honestly, I'd prefer the "FCS style" playoff. Here is what it would look like if it started tomorrow. 

 

 

Six more games for the winner? That's too much football for the 20 year old human body to absorb.

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17 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Six more games for the winner? That's too much football for the 20 year old human body to absorb.

FCS has had this bracket for years. Probably should do away the conference championships though.