(2018) SG Romeo Langford - INDIANA HOOSIERS

[Bailey7878]

I’m cool with giving a coach at least 1 year of recruiting kids and building relationships with high school coaches and the players. I’m cool with seeing how we are as a team next year with or without a player that will be in the program one year. I’m cool with a new coach bringing in a top 20 recruiting class for the 2018 class on his first cycle. I’m cool with a lot of things.

Nobody said it was not a good class of three to four year players. Will they get us to the ncaa in year 2? I don't know but it may take 3 full years for an ncaa berth. By year 5 sweet sixteen or more area

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[Bailey7878]

Romeo would be a huge loss. There’s no other way to state it. And yes Duke, UK, Kansas and UNC recruited him too. I get that. But IU is the state school. If IU loses Romeo Langford, the top in-state player and top 5 recruit nationally to Vanderbilt, it’s absolutely inexcusable

Yes indeed massive loss. The I'm cool with it excuses remind me of the crean 3 year pass which was absurd. You don't know what he inherited blah blah blah.

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[goonaha]

Wouldn't be a Monday in this thead without a theoretical mini meltdown despite there being zero new news. 

[Walking Boot of Doom]

Some have really lost perspective regarding the value of one recruit to a program. Archie is already doing the right things for long-term program success. Romeo might make next year better, but he doesn't fix any of the issues that were exposed during Crean's tenure. If one recruit could solve all of those, we probably wouldn't be talking about Archie Miller at all.

[HinnyHoosier]

Romeo would be a huge loss. There’s no other way to state it. And yes Duke, UK, Kansas and UNC recruited him too. I get that. But IU is the state school. If IU loses Romeo Langford, the top in-state player and top 5 recruit nationally to Vanderbilt, it’s absolutely inexcusable

Hoosier Guy, I'm not going to pick on you here, but I would like to make an observation of sorts.

I think "inexcusable" might be the wrong word. We all know what CAM has to overcome as left by the previous staff. It's been noted on this forum several times over, so I'll skip that part.

Stating an unfavorable result in this recruiting battle as inexcusable implies the fault lies upon someone's shoulders. In this case, that would be the coaching staff. If RL goes to that school in Tennessee, is it really their fault? And are there really no excuses for him not coming here? The answer to both of those questions: No way. We can trace the basis for that answer directly to the previous staff.

Losing out to Vanderbilt would be awful, suck, stink, be terrible, be tough to swallow, and maybe even embarrassing, etc. But I don't feel it to be inexcusable within the new regime at IU Men's Basketball. The group of people that have no excuses for missing out on Romeo Langford are now former employees of Indiana University (and Louisville, lol).

Hang in there. Something good is coming in Bloomington. CAM has turned nothing into quite a bit of something, and he's only just had the chance to get started.


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[Bailey7878]

Some have really lost perspective regarding the value of one recruit to a program. Archie is already doing the right things for long-term program success. Romeo might make next year better, but he doesn't fix any of the issues that were exposed during Crean's tenure. If one recruit could solve all of those, we probably wouldn't be talking about Archie Miller at all.

Romeo turns a 3 year rebuild into a 1 year rebuild. After 30 years of patience some of us would likes a shorter rebuild this time. At yes losing him to vandy would be a massive blow.

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[Walking Boot of Doom]

Just now, Bailey7878 said:

Romeo turns a 3 year rebuild into a 1 year rebuild. After 30 years of patience some of us would likes a shorter rebuild this time. At yes losing him to vandy would be a massive blow.

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Does he? Or will it still take 3 years for Archie to build and recruit a team of 12 other players that understand his system and expectations. What happens when Romeo leaves? Is the next top 20 player a must get and an inexcusable miss?

[Hoosier Guy]

14 minutes ago, HinnyHoosier said:

 

Hoosier Guy, I'm not going to pick on you here, but I would like to make an observation of sorts.

I think "inexcusable" might be the wrong word. We all know what CAM has to overcome as left by the previous staff. It's been noted on this forum several times over, so I'll skip that part.

Stating an unfavorable result in this recruiting battle as inexcusable implies the fault lies upon someone's shoulders. In this case, that would be the coaching staff. If RL goes to that school in Tennessee, is it really their fault? And are there really no excuses for him not coming here? The answer to both of those questions: No way. We can trace the basis for that answer directly to the previous staff.

Losing out to Vanderbilt would be awful, suck, stink, be terrible, be tough to swallow, and maybe even embarrassing, etc. But I don't feel it to be inexcusable within the new regime at IU Men's Basketball. The group of people that have no excuses for missing out on Romeo Langford are now former employees of Indiana University (and Louisville, lol).

Hang in there. Something good is coming in Bloomington. CAM has turned nothing into quite a bit of something, and he's only just had the chance to get started.


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Oh I’m not concerned about Archie being the one. That’s the least of my worries

[Hoosier Guy]

The fact that Romeo is the top state of Indiana player and a top 5 recruit nationally makes it a big deal. Those guys don’t just come along every year

[Bailey7878]

Does he? Or will it still take 3 years for Archie to build and recruit a team of 12 other players that understand his system and expectations. What happens when Romeo leaves? Is the next top 20 player a must get and an inexcusable miss?

Nope because these guys will have a year under their belts. But don't expect them to come in and get us to the ncaa in year one without Romeo.

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[Bailey7878]

The fact that Romeo is the top state of Indiana player and a top 5 recruit nationally makes it a big deal. Those guys don’t just come along every year

You got it and it's a big deal. I think Eric Gordon was the last one. He is a 100% must get.

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[HoosierAloha]

There isn't a single must get player instate or otherwise. We need to set a tone of consistently landing the best instate players though.

Romeo is by far the best player instate in 2018. If we could land him we would have 3/5 best players instate. In that sense, Romeo is a must get.


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[Hoosier Guy]

6 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

There isn't a single must get player instate or otherwise. We need to set a tone of consistently landing the best instate players though.

Romeo is by far the best player instate in 2018. If we could land him we would have 3/5 best players instate. In that sense, Romeo is a must get.


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IU has to consistently land the top in-state player. It is of monumental importance to protect the state. This state is a basketball hotbed and IU needs to take advantage of it

[Bailey7878]

IU has to consistently land the top in-state player. It is of monumental importance to protect the state. This state is a basketball hotbed and IU needs to take advantage of it

Sadly your fighting an argument that it seems a lot of people don't agreed with. They think losing top in state talent is no big deal. Nothing to see I guess.

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[VO5]

1 minute ago, Bailey7878 said:

Sadly your fighting an argument that it seems a lot of people don't agreed with. They think losing top in state talent is no big deal. Nothing to see I guess.

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Nobody is saying that. It’s just unrealistic to think we will get the top in state player every year. Not every kid wants to go to IU because they happen to live in the state. Look at Jerome Hunter. He’s from Columbus and chose us over Ohio State.

[Hoosier Guy]

1 minute ago, Bailey7878 said:

Sadly your fighting an argument that it seems a lot of people don't agreed with. They think losing top in state talent is no big deal. Nothing to see I guess.

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It’s why for 2019, if it truly came down to one or the other in regards to Brooks and Watford, I’d take Brooks. He’s a highly rated in-state player. I want both of those guys but I’m taking Brooks first

[Bailey7878]

It’s why for 2019, if it truly came down to one or the other in regards to Brooks and Watford, I’d take Brooks. He’s a highly rated in-state player. I want both of those guys but I’m taking Brooks first

If we miss on Brooks we will be told we did not need him. I know how this goes.

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[Hoosier Guy]

I agree with VO there. It’s probably unrealistic to expect the top in-state player every year. But that doesn’t mean that IU shouldn’t strive for it. Once IU gets back to where they should be, it’ll happen most years though

[Hoosier Guy]

Just now, Bailey7878 said:

If we miss on Brooks we will be told we did not need him. I know how this goes.

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I’ve been on record saying IU needs at least one of Brooks and Watford. Preferably both but have to get at least one. Miss both and it’s a failure

[Uspshoosier]

Sadly your fighting an argument that it seems a lot of people don't agreed with. They think losing top in state talent is no big deal. Nothing to see I guess.

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Lol you seem mad about other people having a different opinion on things then you I guess. I can’t speak for everyone but for me of course landing the top in state is important (not going to get them all). And if we are talking about the top instate player in years where the staff actually had more then 8 months to recruit and build a relationship with the top in state player and IU is constantly missing out on them then of course that would be a big deal. Luckily on a free message board people can have different opinions on IU basketball and IU recruiting. If people want to lose their minds on missing out on a kid, have at it and if people don’t want to lose their minds on missing out on a kid, have at it


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