(2019) SF Keion Brooks Jr. to Kentucky

[Old Friend]

5 minutes ago, Walking Boot of Doom said:

Not quoting just to save space...

Villanova has been signing the top talent in recent years, including McDAAs. They have exactly what you described PLUS the one/two and dones. My argument is that we need both. A heavy hand of juniors and seniors with the added bonus of a Romeo or Keion.

Romeo was never going to fix the problems of this roster. He’s not a primary ball handler and he’s not a dominant post presence. Not his fault, but he wasn’t the answer. I’d still say we needed him. Good for Indiana in the long run. Hope it turns out to be a good thing for him as well.


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But Tim Thomas is the only one and done Villanova's ever had.   I'm with you if you're telling me Brooks will stay for a couple of years...which is why I mentioned that above.  Villanova isn't doing it with one and done's....they're doing it with the formula I referenced above and I absolutely agree with it.  

I wanted Romeo as much as anyone and wish him nothing but the best.  That said, he's not necessarily shown interest in being part of any solution or building a program.  I think he wanted an Adidas school and wanted to stay close to home.  He's a brand.  That's not working at Indiana.  No, he wasn't going to fix the problem in one year.  But if he stayed for 2?  He sure helps.

Edit :  It would also help tremendously if Archie became better at player development.  Wright is exceptional at that.

[Walking Boot of Doom]

I added text after you quoted - all of those Nova players I listed are in the same position as Keion rankings wise. They’re the top talent, but outside of the top 10 or so it really becomes a crap shoot of who’s a one and done and who’s sticking around. Not sure how much of that is luck or recruiting in that sweet spot for Wright, but I think it’s a bit of a gamble either way, but a worthwhile gamble. Arguments were made that Zeller and Bryant were one and done. They both came back. Keion and TJD seem to be in the same vein.

Regardless, the recruiting strategy is to lock down the borders. That means the top in-state talent barring glaring issues.


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[ray]

15 hours ago, Chris007 said:

So it is IU and UK. My info was correct? Wonder where that came from. 

I'm not sure if your info is correct...just as I don't know if the posters who said he already signed with Indiana are correct.

I would guess those two schools are on Keion's mind and likely at the top, but no one has told me there's a tie and a third place on some sort of list.  

I wasn't doubting that someone told you there was a tie.  I was merely stating how silly that sounds.  Someone is the front runner at all times, even if the college in the front changes consistently.  And, more than anything, I was pointing out that I doubt anyone really KNOWS (with the exception of maybe Keion, and if that's the case, then there isn't a tie game at this point).  Until he signs, even a coaching staff cannot be completely certain.

You and I seem to exchange a few inadvertent blows (they are at least inadvertent from my end).  Anyways, please know that my comment wasn't directed at you anymore than the whole evolving saga that this recruitment (and others in the past) has become.

[ray]

9 hours ago, mdn82 said:

No I do not know his family, but I am friends with a couple of his ex coaches. Which is why I said months ago this will come down to UK and IU. Dad wanted UK for his draft prospects for a long time. Keion at the time want IU and to play with TJD. Dad has had him hold off. This season has hard for IU and hasn’t exactly helped us here. I don’t know what percentages you speak of but there is nothing that deals with absolutes in recruiting until there is pen to paper.


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Thanks again, mdn82.

I agree that there are no absolutes.  And it's nice to know you have a couple close connections.  I admittedly have none.

[Chris007]

1 minute ago, ray said:

I'm not sure if your info is correct...just as I don't know if the posters who said he already signed with Indiana are correct.

I would guess those two schools are on Keion's mind and likely at the top, but no one has told me there's a tie and a third place on some sort of list.  

I wasn't doubting that someone told you there was a tie.  I was merely stating how silly that sounds.  Someone is the front runner at all times, even if the college in the front changes consistently.  And, more than anything, I was pointing out that I doubt anyone really KNOWS (with the exception of maybe Keion, and if that's the case, then there isn't a tie game at this point).  Until he signs, even a coaching staff cannot be completely certain.

You and I seem to exchange a few inadvertent blows (they are at least inadvertent from my end).  Anyways, please know that my comment wasn't directed at you anymore than the whole evolving saga that this recruitment (and others in the past) has become.

oh, It's all good. Yes you are correct it does sound silly saying the teams are tied. Yes there is always just one person who knows for sure. 

[Bowhunter]

IMO UK is always a factor. They can swoop in and change a recruitment at anytime.

UK can be just as bad for us when they miss a few targets than when they don’t. Now a guy like Brooks who was maybe 2nd on their wishlist moves to 1st when their number 1 recruits chooses another school instead of them. Some players don’t like being on a waiting list, some look at it as a break that falls in their favor. $ is unfortunately the name of the game.

That being said, it seems at least a couple of our inside guys still feel we are the team to beat.

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[Baltimore Hoosier]

Wake me up when he's committed... And signed a LOI.

[Brass Cannon]

Just now, Baltimore Hoosier said:

Wake me up when he's committed... And signed a LOI.

Sleeping for 2 months sounds wonderful. Sign me up also

[Dalton26]

Split those posts off into the Random Archie/basketball talk thread

[JHoosier914]

37 minutes ago, Dalton26 said:

Split those posts off into the Random Archie/basketball talk thread

Thank you

[Bailey7878]

IMO UK is always a factor. They can swoop in and change a recruitment at anytime.
UK can be just as bad for us when they miss a few targets than when they don’t. Now a guy like Brooks who was maybe 2nd on their wishlist moves to 1st when their number 1 recruits chooses another school instead of them. Some players don’t like being on a waiting list, some look at it as a break that falls in their favor. $ is unfortunately the name of the game.
That being said, it seems at least a couple of our inside guys still feel we are the team to beat.
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Hoosier Guy says Iu.

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[HinnyHoosier]

Sparty offered 2019 C Julius Marble.

I know they’re different positions.
But..... timing.


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[Brass Cannon]

17 minutes ago, HinnyHoosier said:

Sparty offered 2019 C Julius Marble.

I know they’re different positions.
But..... timing.


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He’s listed as a PF. Some talk Brooks would play that in college

[mdn82]

He’s listed as a PF. Some talk Brooks would play that in college

That would be interesting with Brooks at the 4. I don’t know how I would truly feel about two freshman at the 4 and 5.


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[Brass Cannon]

17 minutes ago, mdn82 said:

That would be interesting with Brooks at the 4. I don’t know how I would truly feel about two freshman at the 4 and 5.


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I never thought it would happen. Pictured him as a 2 or 3 for us.  But imagine MSU may have thought about him at 4

[RatpigHoosier]

I definitely see him as a 3 for us. I know TJD is a 5 right now but does he have the skills to play the 4 if somehow DD comes back and fills the 5? I would Ike that frontcourt very much, especially if Smith is no longer in the picture. If Smith is back next year I fear Archie will continue to force him into lineups and we’ll be in for another very long season.


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[HoosierAloha]

I definitely see him as a 3 for us. I know TJD is a 5 right now but does he have the skills to play the 4 if somehow DD comes back and fills the 5? I would Ike that frontcourt very much, especially if Smith is no longer in the picture. If Smith is back next year I fear Archie will continue to force him into lineups and we’ll be in for another very long season.


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I believe Brooks is a “big wing” that could play the 3 or 4 depending on the lineup.


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[Bowhunter]

Hoosier Guy says Iu.

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I’m hoping this is sarcasm lol


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Free Jake!!

[Bailey7878]

I’m hoping this is sarcasm lol


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Free Jake!!

Sort of but he is calling it!

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[Iubravos]

22 minutes ago, Bailey7878 said:

Sort of but he is calling it!

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You do realize he says that on everybody and has no inside knowledge.