B10 Basketball Recruiting Thread

[Stuhoo 80,721]

 

They are a Trent Frazier or Kipper Nichols transfer away from being really, really, REALLY bad this coming year. And that is a real possibility.

Hope we play them twice.

 

[VO5 8,272]

3 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

 

They are a Trent Frazier or Kipper Nichols transfer away from being really, really, REALLY bad this coming year. And that is a real possibility.

Hope we play them twice.

 

Step aside Rutger, there’s a new basement dweller in town!

[mdn82 25,510]

I’m happy about this. If and when they start locking down Chicago recruiting Illinois will be a beast. Not sure Underwood will be the guy to do it. He’s certainly willing to get shady as Oklahoma State recruiting indicates.


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They have tried locking down Chicago all of my life. Only coach that came close was Bill Self. I don’t see him coming through that door anytime. If every coach is shady then it doesn’t matter if he is shady. If there is a top recruit in Chicago, both Coach K and Calipari have come in and got that recruit. He is not selling his vision well currently. Guessing he lasts two more years.


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[WayneFleekHoosier 48,346]

They have tried locking down Chicago all of my life. Only coach that came close was Bill Self. I don’t see him coming through that door anytime. If every coach is shady then it doesn’t matter if he is shady. If there is a top recruit in Chicago, both Coach K and Calipari have come in and got that recruit. He is not selling his vision well currently. Guessing he lasts two more years.


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Well said. Agree. Surprised how rough of a start it’s been. Should have just kept Groce.


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[Brass Cannon 24,800]

7 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Well said. Agree. Surprised how rough of a start it’s been. Should have just kept Groce.


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lol let's not go crazy. Should have hired somebody better. 

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan 6,219]

 
They are a Trent Frazier or Kipper Nichols transfer away from being really, really, REALLY bad this coming year. And that is a real possibility.
Hope we play them twice.
 

Doesn't the 20 game schedule start next year?

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[HoosierAloha 30,068]

 
True, but their new addition's body is barely warm.
Giorgi Bezhanishvili , 6'10" PF/C's senior year high school statistics are not even Priller-esque. More Grant Gelon-ish:
7.2 PPG 
1.7 RPG 
0.2 APG
0.1 blocks per game 
0.8 free throws per game
Best game senior year was a 15 point, 7 rebound effort.

How are you 6-10 and only average 1.7 rpg (!!) in high school?! You would think at least 2 rebounds would hit you in the face at 6-10.


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[Stuhoo 80,721]

8 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

How are you 6-10 and only average 1.7 rpg (!!) in high school?! You would think at least 2 rebounds would hit you in the face at 6-10.


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Priller had 4.8 RPG his senior year. That's really awful and 2.5 times more than this young man.

[mdn82 25,510]

Well said. Agree. Surprised how rough of a start it’s been. Should have just kept Groce.


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It’s weird, because if they could have kept Self they probably would have won a title. I know Kansas is Kansas, and it was closer to home for him. But you would have thought they would have backed the Brinks truck up for him, and they didn’t. They just let him walk cause they thought it was sustainable. Honestly their best bet isn’t an x and o guy. It’s someone with a recruiting reputation in Chicago. As bad as that sounds.


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[Brass Cannon 24,800]

1 minute ago, mdn82 said:

It’s weird, because if they could have kept Self they probably would have won a title. I know Kansas is Kansas, and it was closer to home for him. But you would have thought they would have backed the Brinks truck up for him, and they didn’t. They just let him walk cause they thought it was sustainable. Honestly their best bet isn’t an x and o guy. It’s someone with a recruiting reputation in Chicago. As bad as that sounds.


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In this business you don't ever let a good coach go. Not sure how some schools don't understand it. 

[ElectricBoogaloo 4,307]

8 minutes ago, mdn82 said:

It’s weird, because if they could have kept Self they probably would have won a title. I know Kansas is Kansas, and it was closer to home for him. But you would have thought they would have backed the Brinks truck up for him, and they didn’t. They just let him walk cause they thought it was sustainable. Honestly their best bet isn’t an x and o guy. It’s someone with a recruiting reputation in Chicago. As bad as that sounds.


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Saw on the Illini forums that the contract buyout for Self was only $150k, which Kansas dumped out of their coin purse I'm sure. 

[HoosierAloha 30,068]

They have tried locking down Chicago all of my life. Only coach that came close was Bill Self. I don’t see him coming through that door anytime. If every coach is shady then it doesn’t matter if he is shady. If there is a top recruit in Chicago, both Coach K and Calipari have come in and got that recruit. He is not selling his vision well currently. Guessing he lasts two more years.


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Chicago has been consistently called the dirtiest recruiting city but the teams that get them are clean... Self landing recruits out of Chicago while at Ill is surprising to nobody.

I thought underwood would recruit better to Ill than he has though. I wonder if there's any blowback from the OSU stuff.


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[mdn82 25,510]

Chicago has been consistently called the dirtiest recruiting city but the teams that get them are clean... Self landing recruits out of Chicago while at Ill is surprising to nobody.

 

I thought underwood would recruit better to Ill than he has though. I wonder if there's any blowback from the OSU stuff.

 

 

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I didn’t think he would be able to recruit as good because he came into this position scared. You can’t recruit Chicago scared. Anybody in that area will tell you how bad it is. It may just be par for the course now. The main players to come out of Chicago in the last ten years have ended up with Cal or K. If you expand to Gary then you got MSU involved there too. Honestly if he can’t get top players out of Chicago he is done. That’s why he was brought there. You should be able to compete annually with just Chicago kids.

 

 

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[Uspshoosier 45,678]

Breaking: Class of 2018 point guard Tai Strickland from St. Petersburg (FL) just committed to Wisconsin, per a source.
Pat lawless
Rod’s son


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[Stuhoo 80,721]

9 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Breaking: Class of 2018 point guard Tai Strickland from St. Petersburg (FL) just committed to Wisconsin, per a source.
Pat lawless
Rod’s son


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Composite ranking in the 300s. Chose Wisky over Minnesota and Rutgers.

I hope you guys are starting to see that with the right coaching staff, IU's talent level will put us squarely in the top echelon year after year. 

 

[Uspshoosier 45,678]

 
Composite ranking in the 300s. Chose Wisky over Minnesota and Rutgers.
I hope you guys are starting to see that with the right coaching staff, IU's talent level will put us squarely in the top echelon year after year. 
 

You know my post history when it comes to the importance of rankings for me individually. I will take 5 star coaching first and let it play out with whoever decides to come and represent IU


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[Stuhoo 80,721]

19 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

You know my post history when it comes to the importance of rankings for me individually. I will take 5 star coaching first and let it play out with whoever decides to come and represent IU


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Agreed! 

But: 

• Overachieving programs combine five star coaching with moderate talent,
• Underachieving and inconsistent programs combine unfocused, erratic, crappy coaching with high-end talent,
• And, the truly elite programs combine the necessary foundation of five star coaching and concepts with high-end talent. 

 

[ap2345 7,845]

36 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

 

Composite ranking in the 300s. Chose Wisky over Minnesota and Rutgers.

I hope you guys are starting to see that with the right coaching staff, IU's talent level will put us squarely in the top echelon year after year. 

 

Exactly. CAM already has the #3 class in the B10 according to 247 and would jump to #1 if they land Romeo. 

[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

In this business you don't ever let a good coach go. Not sure how some schools don't understand it. 

Not trying to say Crean was a good coach - he did bring good levels of success though. I think the point you just made is the exact reason he stuck around so long. In CBB, there seem to be far, far more “bad” hires than “great” hires. Patience is key until your coach lets the floor fall out from under the team as happened last year.


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[Uspshoosier 45,678]

Maryland sophomore Justin Jackson is foregoing his final two seasons of eligibility and declaring for the 2018 Draft. "After talking with my family and weighing my options, it’s my desire to turn my full attention to preparing for a career in pro basketball." News story coming.
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