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Pinstripe Bowl Post-Game Thread

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I'm so angry. Angry our star player never touched the ball in OT, angry our seniors couldn't end with a W, angry our holder couldn't give our kicker a chance to win the game in regulation, and most upset that in the year 2015 the NCAA still has the most obscure and stupid rules that refuse to use technology to determine rightful winners in football games. IUFB is a program on the rise, and I can't wait for next season, but right now I'm just so angry.

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Great job Hoosiers, you gave it your all. Cobbs dropped TD and Paige's TO killed us. Suds 2 interceptions did too, but we got two of our own as well. The play before the last quick and out hurt us as well. Instead of going for 5 or 6, Suds went with a deep pass. We needed more yards there to be safe.

Anyway, losing always has a lot of ifs, but IU made a bowl game and played till the very end. IU is building a better program, IU will be just fine. Been a fun season. Even got the wife enjoying games with me.

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Who cares about missing the call on the field goal. That shouldn't be a ridiculed post by me. We can't control that call play better is what I am saying. You mods say what you want I will watch my p,s and q,s that is the fine line of a peon on here

Oh that wasn't a official warning. That was a "take a chill pill." Or a couple of jack and cokes.

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I am very disappointed that after 5 years of Wilson at the helm, the defense has seen no improvement. I think its time for a change.

I am not even going to screw with you. I never see you post anything except negatives, and now your talking coaching changes in a post-game thread. If you want to change coaches talk about it in that thread, leave it out of game and post-game threads.

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For those complaining about the defense, the secondary played a spectacular game against a very good passing team. Secondary only let up 163 yards passing and had two INTs (three if you count Latham's). Yes, we gave up two 70+ yard runs, but when your defense is as young and beat up as our's is, we have to take risks stacking the box and blitzing. Defense made some big stops today when it mattered, utilizing the same strategy. Simply stated, we don't yet have the talent or depth to line up and play a traditional defense.

Want to point a finger, all season we only had eleven, ELEVEN give always. LEAST in the B1G and we had the third best turnover margin. Today we had two INTs and a huge fumble. For those saying CKW needs to go because of the defense, you're crazy.

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Alright well that blows. Glass needs to announce the KDub extension in the next couple days, and let's take the momentum and chip on our shoulder into next year with Redding, Lagow, a ridiculous receiving corps (one where dropped passes will land Cobbs butt on the bench with some of our additional depth), and a defense that hopefully has learned and grown from this season. Knorr has next season to prove himself though...

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For those complaining about the defense, the secondary played a spectacular game against a very good passing team. Secondary only let up 163 yards passing and had two INTs (three if you count Latham's). Yes, we gave up two 70+ yard runs, but when your defense is as young and beat up as our's is, we have to take risks stacking the box and blitzing. Defense made some big stops today when it mattered, utilizing the same strategy. Simply stated, we don't yet have the talent or depth to line up and play a traditional defense.

Want to point a finger, all season we only had eleven, ELEVEN give always. Today we had two INTs and a huge fumble. For those saying CKW needs to go because of the defense, you're crazy.

Yeah, I'm on the side at this point that our D coaches are not playing the schemes they would prefer, but based on the available talent. It involves taking extra risks at times, and sometimes that just leaves some crap wide open. Really hoping we add some more LB and DB's in this class who have some talent and speed.

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This game should have gone to double overtime...

 

College Football/field goal attempt over top of goal post

 

Expert: Vic Winnek - 11/21/2011

Question
what determines when a field goal attempt is good when the ball goes directly over the top of the goal post.  does a certain part have to be over and that makes it good or does all of the ball have to be clear of the post?

Answer
Jason
Under NCAA rules for a Field Goal to be good, the ball must travel between the uprights and over the cross bar of the goal post.  The key is "between" the uprights or the upright extended. Said another way: the ball must travel inside the upright, not over the upright or outside of it, but over the crossbar, between the uprights The Uprights.  Therefore the entire ball must be between the uprights.  To answer your question, all of the ball has to be clear of the post and inside the uprights [or between them].

When the kick is high and above the upright pole, the upward plane of the upright pole is extended straight up as if the pole itself was at that height.  Therefore the ball must travel inside the upright and upright pole extended.  This is different from the NFL rule.  I believe the NFL rule requires part of the ball to travel on the inside edge off the upright. So under NCAA rules if the scrimmage kicked ball travels over the upright it is not a field goal, but under NFL rules it would be a field goal if part of the ball was inside the upright plane. 

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I have to admit it did strike me halfway through the 2nd quarter that I was watching a bowl game with IU playing! Probably why it stings more. It would've been great to win a bowl game, but it's a building process. Get to a bowl: check. Win a bowl: next year.

Lots of exposure for future recruits too.

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Indiana and Duke played Saturday, and the game at Yankee Stadium featured both a clutch postseason score by Alex Rodriguez and a controversial call on a three-pointer.

Confused? We don’t blame you. Just trust us that the New Era Pinstripe Bowl lived up to its billing as one of the wildest and most entertaining games of the bowl season, pitting two programs trying to battle their own haunted histories.

The Blue Devils prevailed, 44-41, in overtime when Griffin Oakes’ 38-yard field goal attempt was ruled a miss, even though Oakes and the Hoosiers protested that the kick, which sailed high above the left upright, was good. The kick wasn't reviewed, and Duke celebrated while Indiana looked perplexed.

But that weird final play was appropriate for this game and for both teams. Duke snapped a five-game bowl losing streak and won its first postseason game since beating Arkansas in the 1961 Cotton Bowl.

The two teams combined for more than 1,200 total yards and 57 first downs. Duke quarterback Thomas Sirk scored the game-tying touchdown on a 5-yard run with 41 seconds left in regulation, and Oakes missed a 55-yard try that would have given Indiana the win before overtime.

What the win means for Duke: David Cutcliffe has resurrected the Blue Devils program, taking them to four straight bowls. But the team has had some tortured finishes in bowls the past three years, so this one has to feel awfully good. Duke also reversed a late-season slide that saw it lose four of its final regular-season games after the Miami kick-return disaster.

What the loss means for Indiana: The Hoosiers hadn’t been to a bowl game since 2007, and this was just their second postseason game since 1993, so just getting here was a big deal. But the same old problems plagued Kevin Wilson’s team. Indiana had 667 total yards and lived on Duke’s side of the field all afternoon, but the Hoosiers just couldn’t locate enough defensive stops or avoid mistakes on special teams and in the red zone. The Hoosiers are the Sisyphus of college football.

Player of the game: Indiana star running back Jordan Howard didn’t play; he was unable to cut effectively on his injured ankle during pregame warmups. The Hoosiers didn’t miss him because Devine Redding had a career game. Redding, who ran for more than 100 yards in each of the last two regular-season games when Howard was out, carried the ball 35 times for 227 yards and a touchdown. Give a tip of the cap to the Indiana offensive line, which can make any tailback look good. That includes Rodriguez, a freshman who had his first career touchdown in the third quarter.

How the game was won: Special teams. Not only did Indiana miss those two crucial field goals -- one of which, admittedly, was extremely difficult -- it also allowed a kickoff-return touchdown and fumbled on a punt return moments after making one of its few good defensive stands. Duke was perfect on all three of its field goal tries, including the 36-yarder to win it in overtime.

http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/128929/duke-rides-special-teams-in-wild-pinstripe-bowl-victory-over-indiana

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