My Boy Yogi

[GloryDays 5,920]

The recruitment of Hyron Edwards picking up and scouts being impressed suggests it's a possibility

 Could be  the staff realizes they shouldn't throw an inexperienced frosh guard to the wolves and want Yogi to mentor.

That's my hope anyway.

[Naturalhoosier 15,434]

Yogi has so much friggin' heart. That was definitely a tear at the end of the game. I felt it too. I loved that Crean was there. Like a father consoling his child. It was a nice touching moment that goes way beyond the realm of basketball.

[hoosierpap 14,300]

There is honestly no way Yogi goes anywhere after this year. He is just not ready for the NBA at this moment. Barring use going all the way this year, he will definitely be back next year

I'll take the complete opposite stance here.

[WayneFleekHoosier 48,448]

no pap, no!  say it ain't so!

[TomPritchard25 526]

The other thread had some info on Jaquan Lyle.. Said he's de committing from OSU. If that's so, I hope he stays away because that means yogi ain't here if he is. That doesn't fly with me.

[moyemayhem 1,287]

There is honestly no way Yogi goes anywhere after this year. He is just not ready for the NBA at this moment. Barring use going all the way this year, he will definitely be back next year

 

I'm being a devil's advocate here, but what more could Yogi possibly show in his senior year that would prove to the folks in the NBA that he is ready?  He's exceptionally strong for his size, his shot is NBA ready, he is a great passer, he is a great ball handler, he doesn't turn the ball over, his shot selection has improved, he has become a proven leader, and he has shown a great sense for the moment and when to turn it on offensively.  Unless he is expecting a growth spurt, it's going to be hard for Yogi to raise his NBA stock at this point, but an injury, off the court issue, or statistical regression could really hurt it.

 

I really want Yogi to stay, but I completely understand the rationale for him leaving.

[bleedhoosier 3,627]

^ 1 hundy... what does yogi have left to show the nba? His a:to ratio is outstanding, near 90% free throw shooter, basically unconscious from deep, can take almost anyone to the rack with his burst and strength.. All he can do is start shooting 60% from 3 on the season. Yall saying yogi has no chance at the NBA after this year are not watching the games, don't understand the game or just want him back next year for selfish reasons.. I'm totally okay with the last reason, I get it..

[hoosierpap 14,300]

no pap, no! say it ain't so!

Wish I could, Wayne. I suppose it could change is the best I can do.

[bleedhoosier 3,627]

I'll add the only thing Yogi stands to add to his draft status is exposure and attention from the scouts. That is picking up steam quickly though. Yogi coming back next year is all on yogi and if he wants a college banner

[TheStillman 991]

The thing is unless Yogi goes off in the tourney he is a borderline 1st round prospect simply because of his size.  Not saying he can't have a solid NBA career because I think he can, but when it comes to the draft he needs to completely dominate a la Shabazz in order to go in the 1st round.

 

I agree with the sentiments here that he has nothing else to show the NBA scouts because he doesn't.  He is a very good point guard who can shoot, beat his man on the dribble, make any pass and take care of the ball.  NBA scouts know what he is.

 

But this is not a reason to leave.   If the scouts know what they're getting and will not put him as a solid 1st round prospect why would he leave before his senior year and potentially go undrafted?  The draft is a fickle matter.  Once you get past the 1st round there are no guarantees and the 2nd round is packed with international prospects that teams draft and stash in Europe.  

[All_Hoosiers 873]

Yogi's draft stock can't rise a whole lot higher. I'll be surprised if he returns next season.

[djsalway 4,161]

The thing is unless Yogi goes off in the tourney he is a borderline 1st round prospect simply because of his size.  Not saying he can't have a solid NBA career because I think he can, but when it comes to the draft he needs to completely dominate a la Shabazz in order to go in the 1st round.

 

I agree with the sentiments here that he has nothing else to show the NBA scouts because he doesn't.  He is a very good point guard who can shoot, beat his man on the dribble, make any pass and take care of the ball.  NBA scouts know what he is.

 

But this is not a reason to leave.   If the scouts know what they're getting and will not put him as a solid 1st round prospect why would he leave before his senior year and potentially go undrafted?  The draft is a fickle matter.  Once you get past the 1st round there are no guarantees and the 2nd round is packed with international prospects that teams draft and stash in Europe.  

 

Chances are he will go in the second round, but if he stays another year, he won't get drafted at all. Age is a huge thing in the NBA Draft and him being 1 year older can be the difference in being drafted or playing in Europe.

[TheStillman 991]

A few recent examples from the B1G of guys who had "no more to show" at the college level, left early and to just go undrafted or drafted in 2nd round:

 

LaQuinton Ross (undrafted, now in Europe)

Deshaun Thomas (drafted 58th overall, now in Europe)

Glenn Robinson III (drafted 40th overall, sits bench for the T-Wolves, hasn't played more than 1 minute since 1/26, has only played over 10 minutes once the entire season)

 

I just don't see Yogi viewing this as something he would want enough to forego something special next year.  He can be National Player of the Year, All-American, set the IU school assists record and lead the fastest offense in the country.  Why give that up to go to Europe or ride the pine in the NBA?

[TheStillman 991]

Chances are he will go in the second round, but if he stays another year, he won't get drafted at all. Age is a huge thing in the NBA Draft and him being 1 year older can be the difference in being drafted or playing in Europe.

See my post below yours.  If he goes 2nd round this year chances are he plays very little in NBA and is in Europe a year from now anyway.  So is he going to give a year up of college just to hear his name called and ride the bench for a year?  I just do not see it with him.

[djsalway 4,161]

A few recent examples from the B1G of guys who had "no more to show" at the college level, left early and to just go undrafted or drafted in 2nd round:

 

LaQuinton Ross (undrafted, now in Europe)

Deshaun Thomas (drafted 58th overall, now in Europe)

Glenn Robinson III (drafted 40th overall, sits bench for the T-Wolves, hasn't played more than 1 minute since 1/26, has only played over 10 minutes once the entire season)

 

I just don't see Yogi viewing this as something he would want enough to forego something special next year.  He can be National Player of the Year, All-American, set the IU school assists record and lead the fastest offense in the country.  Why give that up to go to Europe or ride the pine in the NBA?

 

 

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[TheStillman 991]

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The money will be there after his senior year too.  He is the son of a doctor I don't think it's an issue for him where he needs to rush things.

[djsalway 4,161]

A few recent examples from the B1G of guys who had "no more to show" at the college level, left early and to just go undrafted or drafted in 2nd round:

 

LaQuinton Ross (undrafted, now in Europe)

Deshaun Thomas (drafted 58th overall, now in Europe)

Glenn Robinson III (drafted 40th overall, sits bench for the T-Wolves, hasn't played more than 1 minute since 1/26, has only played over 10 minutes once the entire season)

 

I just don't see Yogi viewing this as something he would want enough to forego something special next year.  He can be National Player of the Year, All-American, set the IU school assists record and lead the fastest offense in the country.  Why give that up to go to Europe or ride the pine in the NBA?

 

Work ethic was a HUGE problem with those first two you listed. Deshaun's draft rights are with the Spurs, so there's a good chance he will be in the NBA soon, and Glenn Robinson may have been the most inconsistent player (as in he could give you 30 one night and 2 the next) in the B1G in the last 10 years.

 

The money will be there after his senior year too.  He is the son of a doctor I don't think it's an issue for him where he needs to rush things.

 

Never said it was an issue. Was just answering your question.

[Scooter D 928]

The recruitment of Hyron Edwards picking up and scouts being impressed suggests it's a possibility

Or maybe CTC is recruiting him harder so he can have a year to learn under Yogi's tutelage and so IU does not have to start a Frosh PG? 

[TheStillman 991]

Work ethic was a HUGE problem with those first two you listed. Deshaun's draft rights are with the Spurs, so there's a good chance he will be in the NBA soon, and Glenn Robinson may have been the most inconsistent player (as in he could give you 30 one night and 2 the next) in the B1G in the last 10 years.

 

 

Never said it was an issue. Was just answering your question.

 

Work ethic or not with those guys they gave up years of college career to go in the 2nd round which is where Yogi is projected.  

 

I think some would take the money and move along but I just do not see it with Yogi.  I could very well be wrong.

[Scooter D 928]

Yogi has shown outstanding leadership this year and great decision making...and I think that he has finally become the player that we thought he would.  

 

As for if he is ready for the NBA or not...he probably is, although from what I have seen, he is late first round to second round, so if he sticks around for his senior year, maybe he can earn some hardware to boost his stock (not sure if everyone has seen, but he was left off the Wooden Award Top 20.  How?  That is beyond my comprehension.).  I would hope that he would rather play for IU for another year then play in Europe.