Recruiting Momentum

[Alford Bailey 12,302]

We seem to have lost a lot of momentum in recruiting. Many quality recruits have passed, we brought in 2 guys this year that will never see the floor and the 2 guys so far for 2015 aren't in the top 100 and dont fill a need (as in point guard or low post). Why would many kids rather go sit the bench somewhere else instead of coming here and get immediate playing time? Is it the system, Crean's personality, perceived drug issues, small town Btown? Thoughts?

[mdn82 25,501]

Who committed recently that showed this?

Edit: It's a lot simpler than your in depth analysis. I know you want to feel it is Crean due to your hatred for all things Crean. That's fine. Perception is reality and your perception is Crean is the anti-christ. He is part of the problem, due to his inability to keep Kenny Johnson here. Shockingly recruits actually like the system and the freedom it allows. Crean shockingly has got back to back bigs in the lottery and provide a platform for multiple 4 stars over the years to play in the NBA. I for one would rather have fits for the system than "stars". Max, Emmitt, Vic, Will, jordy, and so forth weren't qualified enough to be here. But they fit. They fit better than Hollowell, Hanner, Noah, and Nick Williams. If we "miss" on 5 stars that would fit here, I will be as pissed as the next guy. But here in February of 2015 I have absolutely no idea who we missed on or lost out on due to Crean being the devil.

[shortspacequickness 1,034]

The word is out on Crean. After losing to Syracuse, IU will never get another blue chip player to sign. Ever.

This is not acceptable at Indiana University! Indiana University deserves better, damnit! This is IU basketball, an elite top 5 program.

[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

[Alford Bailey 12,302]

Who committed recently that showed this?

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[mdn82 25,501]

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Trust me I am more confused than you where this came from. I am far more objective than the average person and this subject really perplexes me. Oh and I am not the biggest Crean fan either. Hope that helps confuse you more.

[Alford Bailey 12,302]

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Trust me I am more confused than you where this came from. I am far more objective than the average person and this subject really perplexes me. Oh and I am not the biggest Crean fan either. Hope that helps confuse you more.

 

Who committed recently that showed this?

Edit: It's a lot simpler than your in depth analysis. I know you want to feel it is Crean due to your hatred for all things Crean. That's fine. Perception is reality and your perception is Crean is the anti-christ. He is part of the problem, due to his inability to keep Kenny Johnson here. Shockingly recruits actually like the system and the freedom it allows. Crean shockingly has got back to back bigs in the lottery and provide a platform for multiple 4 stars over the years to play in the NBA. I for one would rather have fits for the system than "stars". Max, Emmitt, Vic, Will, jordy, and so forth weren't qualified enough to be here. But they fit. They fit better than Hollowell, Hanner, Noah, and Nick Williams. If we "miss" on 5 stars that would fit here, I will be as pissed as the next guy. But here in February of 2015 I have absolutely no idea who we missed on or lost out on due to Crean being the devil.

LOL, you are a moderator?

[Alford Bailey 12,302]

Recruiting is fine...I guess.

[WayneFleekHoosier 47,515]

Theo Pinson
Trey Lyles
Isaiah Whitehead
Devin Robinson
Dwayne Morgan
Goodluck Okonoboh
Leron Black
Dion Wiley
Jakeenan Gant
Ahmed Hill
Chinanu Onauku
Phil Booth
Marvin Clark
Tum Tum Nairn
Donovan Mitchell
Jalen Coleman
Malachi Richardson
Jaquan Lyle
Ray Spalding
Daniel Giddens
Jimmy Whitt
Matt McQuaid
Bryant Crawford
Shake Milton
Kenny Williams
Eron Harris
Trevor Thompson
Anthony Lee

[schoosier 3,451]

Who committed recently that showed this?
Edit: It's a lot simpler than your in depth analysis. I know you want to feel it is Crean due to your hatred for all things Crean. That's fine. Perception is reality and your perception is Crean is the anti-christ. He is part of the problem, due to his inability to keep Kenny Johnson here. Shockingly recruits actually like the system and the freedom it allows. Crean shockingly has got back to back bigs in the lottery and provide a platform for multiple 4 stars over the years to play in the NBA. I for one would rather have fits for the system than "stars". Max, Emmitt, Vic, Will, jordy, and so forth weren't qualified enough to be here. But they fit. They fit better than Hollowell, Hanner, Noah, and Nick Williams. If we "miss" on 5 stars that would fit here, I will be as pissed as the next guy. But here in February of 2015 I have absolutely no idea who we missed on or lost out on due to Crean being the devil.

Shockingly, Crean can't coach and the recruits have figured it out long after many of us fans and alumni have. With our need for a big this year and next, 5 star recruits should be busting down the doors to get to Bloomington but April and Priller are all that sign. I know you don't think its Crean due to your love fest with him. Shockingly, recruits like to play for championship coaches and not one that has gotten past the sweet 16 once in their very mediocre career. I for one would rather have a coach that actually earns his check on the sidelines instead of talking about winning and the Indiana way when he can't back it up. Crean's not the devil he's just a terrible coach. All the players a coach signs is worthy to be here. Its how they are coached up to dtermine if they're champions.

[Alford Bailey 12,302]

Evidently none of those guys "fit" the system.

[WayneFleekHoosier 47,515]

Theo Pinson
Trey Lyles
Isaiah Whitehead
Devin Robinson
Dwayne Morgan
Goodluck Okonoboh
Leron Black
Dion Wiley
Jakeenan Gant
Ahmed Hill
Chinanu Onauku
Phil Booth
Marvin Clark
Tum Tum Nairn
Donovan Mitchell
Jalen Coleman
Malachi Richardson
Jaquan Lyle
Ray Spalding
Daniel Giddens
Jimmy Whitt
Matt McQuaid
Bryant Crawford
Shake Milton
Kenny Williams
Eron Harris
Trevor Thompson
Anthony Lee

what do these guys have in common? These are high to middle targets IU has had in the last 2 years and instead signed Priller and April who are incapable of playing meaningful minutes. We have GLARING need for a BIG and just sent 2 to the league which is the ultimate goal and yet still can't sign a serviceable big man. Explain that. Maybe this is less confusing?????

[Alford Bailey 12,302]

WOW. Some names on there I'd forgot about. Anyway my question, before I was attacked by a moderator, is why so many have passed?

[Hovadipo 53,982]

Because all coaches get every kid they recruit. Give it a break. Jesus.

[mdn82 25,501]

WOW. Some names on there I'd forgot about. Anyway my question, before I was attacked by a moderator, is why so many have passed?

Lol attacked? Good god.

[mdn82 25,501]

The only players I truly wished we got that we missed on were Gant and Morgan.

[Alford Bailey 12,302]

Because all coaches get every kid they recruit. Give it a break. Jesus.

Who said anything about every kid? One or two off that list changes everything.

[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

The only players I truly wished we got that we missed on were Gant and Morgan.

And Gant was arrested for assault over the summer

[Hovadipo 53,982]

Who said anything about every kid? One or two off that list changes everything.

I agree. Lyles totally changes this season. But all you can do is look at what we have now. "What could've been" is nothing. This is totally irrelevant.

[maxwell 576]

Who said anything about every kid? One or two off that list changes everything.

So does having Luke Fischer.