Is IU currently reaching out to Brad Stevens through back channels?

[ALASKA HOOSIER 11,276]

I like that Crean loves Indiana basketball. You MUST give him kudos on trying to bring back tradition and Indiana pride.

[MikeRoberts 7,057]

You caught me on the last one, but the rest I posted I had read before and posted them on this forum before. So yeah take the one that was written early and talked about the rumor against the others I posted that had quotes from him saying he was staying and wasn't budging. You barely looked for articles and and argued that they didn't exist, I post ones that exist and you don't read them and continue to argue your point. Typical on this forum

He is employed by the Celtics and in each article he says he wants to stay and work for them long term... He never says he doesn't want the IU job. Nobody, I mean nobody with an ounce of sense will publicly say they will leave their current place of employment for another one when that job is not open and hasn't been offered to him. Those articles mean nothing and again, he never says he doesn't want the IU job as that would be a lie.

[schoosier 3,504]

You have posed, in a much more eloquent way, the same question I've often had. No matter what you think of our coach, he's actually a good guy who is giving it his all, and in some cases failing, to help this program succeed. No reason to attack him with the names given to him by UK and Purdue fans when there are much more intelligent and rational ways to express his deficiencies as a coach.
I think many are fed up, and are misplacing the built up anger of the past 12 years of failure on Crean. He's not the man for the job, but that doesn't mean we should belittle him with name calling. He's not trying to harm the program, he's doing everything he can to help it. It's just not good enough. Thank him for the good he has done, there is a lot to thank him for, and acknowledge his failures, we all know there are plenty. There is bever a need to attack the man just because his best isn't good enough.

If you think we are name calling our coach, you may want to read up on Hoke, Gillespie, or any other football related coach in the sec. With the big paycheck comes big aspirations and when you fail people get upset. Its not unique to us and being honest we could be much worse. Just look west of us and how Illini fans were after Weber who went to the final game and stomped Crean most every year. What really gets me are the same folks like you worried about poor 2.6 million a year Crean are the same ones wanting the expectations lowered at Indiana. You say we will never be the same as back then or we're not elite anymore and give Crean 2 more years to finally get the right recruits. Any other program of our stature he would have been already run out f town. Purdue is right down the road if you want to root for losers. Let's quit apologizing and being nice and expect our coach to win big. For those not knowing its a great feeling.

[8bucks 6,476]

If our success level remains the same----I predict the Crean era will last 2 more years.

I like him---he's brought our program back and emphasizes the student in student-athlete.

He's proven he's a good coach---but not yet shown he's a great coach.

At the end of the day---even those of us who like Crean---acknowledge he has to field teams that are contenders year in and year out. He has not shown us yet he can do that----this year is make or break----we need to get on a run and challenge for the Big title and make a tourney run.

There is still time---but the clock is ticking-----and time is running out!

I agree but the thing that gives me pause is the timing. If we make the tourney this year and win one game, then next year again get to the tourney and make it to the sweet sixteen then lose are we still making a change after that year?

As I see it, after the 2016 season we once again lose a lot of key players. Some guys return but we will primarily be a young team yet again and likely in that rebuild mode. So while it may be a good time to reload, would IU really fire a coach after making the sweet sixteen? I agree that we are after more than sweet sixteens but still I have doubts IU would make a change then.

[bnkepner 1,509]

He is employed by the Celtics and in each article he says he wants to stay and work for them long term... He never says he doesn't want the IU job. Nobody, I mean nobody with an ounce of sense will publicly say they will leave their current place of employment for another one when that job is not open and hasn't been offered to him. Those articles mean nothing and again, he never says he doesn't want the IU job as that would be a lie.

Those articles mean nothing? So we have no come to the point where fans believe stupid rumors and whisperings instead of actual interviews with people. I know he isn't going to come out and say that he wants to leave the Celtics, but he is pretty clear in all those articles (which you wouldn't know cause you most likely didn't read them)

[bnkepner 1,509]

What do you expect him to say?  Saying anything else wouldn't be a smart move on his part.  I'm not saying he'd take the job, but it also wouldn't be the first time a coach said one thing and did the exact opposite.

 

Calipari said Memphis was where he wanted to be, he left for UK about a week later.  Nick Saban was coaching the Miami Dolphins and flat out said he will not be the Alabama coach, he said that in December of 2006 and in January of 2007 he became the Alabama coach.

Okay you have used the same two examples used hundreds of times by others on here. Those are two examples that support your argument but there are other examples of coaches who said they wanted to stay where they were, and they stayed...

[southernindianahoosier 422]

Okay you have used the same two examples used hundreds of times by others on here. Those are two examples that support your argument but there are other examples of coaches who said they wanted to stay where they were, and they stayed...

Give us some high profile examples. I'm legitimately curious.

[MikeRoberts 7,057]

Those articles mean nothing? So we have no come to the point where fans believe stupid rumors and whisperings instead of actual interviews with people. I know he isn't going to come out and say that he wants to leave the Celtics, but he is pretty clear in all those articles (which you wouldn't know cause you most likely didn't read them)

I did read them, thanks for providing them. Again, he is not ever as long as he is employed, publicly say he wants a different coaching job. What you have displayed since you arrived here is an inability to understand that some on here and elsewhere are there, were there or know someone that is close to a topic and the people connected to it. Some people know things.

[southernindianahoosier 422]

Okay you have used the same two examples used hundreds of times by others on here. Those are two examples that support your argument but there are other examples of coaches who said they wanted to stay where they were, and they stayed...

Better question: In the past what schools have had a fan-base request a specific coach? Which requests panned out, and which ones didn't?And when the requested coach came to the school, what were the coaches results?

Obviously the most immediate example is Harbaugh with Michigan. Did The UNC fan base request Roy Williams like IU is with Stevens?

[mamasa 15,354]

If you think we are name calling our coach, you may want to read up on Hoke, Gillespie, or any other football related coach in the sec. With the big paycheck comes big aspirations and when you fail people get upset. Its not unique to us and being honest we could be much worse. Just look west of us and how Illini fans were after Weber who went to the final game and stomped Crean most every year. What really gets me are the same folks like you worried about poor 2.6 million a year Crean are the same ones wanting the expectations lowered at Indiana. You say we will never be the same as back then or we're not elite anymore and give Crean 2 more years to finally get the right recruits. Any other program of our stature he would have been already run out f town. Purdue is right down the road if you want to root for losers. Let's quit apologizing and being nice and expect our coach to win big. For those not knowing its a great feeling.

So, because other schools/quasi fans do it, it's ok? Because someone makes money, it's ok? Our team(s), school and coach are not losers and your portrayal as such is pretty classless.

[KingPG21 6,587]

If you think we are name calling our coach, you may want to read up on Hoke, Gillespie, or any other football related coach in the sec. With the big paycheck comes big aspirations and when you fail people get upset. Its not unique to us and being honest we could be much worse. Just look west of us and how Illini fans were after Weber who went to the final game and stomped Crean most every year. What really gets me are the same folks like you worried about poor 2.6 million a year Crean are the same ones wanting the expectations lowered at Indiana. You say we will never be the same as back then or we're not elite anymore and give Crean 2 more years to finally get the right recruits. Any other program of our stature he would have been already run out f town. Purdue is right down the road if you want to root for losers. Let's quit apologizing and being nice and expect our coach to win big. For those not knowing its a great feeling.

I think it is funny that you have some screwed up rational for the name calling of Crean. Also, where has #1 ever really said they are lowering their expectations? You won't find an example, but one of your argumentative tactics is to take a few comments and extrapolate something from it that was never there. You've done this countless times, and you always seem to pretend that in doing so you better your own argument. How about instead you come up with a rebuttal for the opposing view points rather than creating false ones to argue

[Dalton26 16,892]

I'm not a fan of Crean and I don't think he is a very good coach. However I could careless what a coach does on the sideline if he can hang a banner. Our next coach could be on the sidelines on a pogo stick wearing a zebra print suit for all I care as long as he wins.

[schoosier 3,504]

So, because other schools/quasi fans do it, it's ok? Because someone makes money, it's ok? Our team(s), school and coach are not losers and your portrayal as such is pretty classless.

You're entitled to an opionion just like I am. Settling for mediocrity is a loser's mentality just like Indiana for sweet 16s. We don't hang banners for them for a reason while at many other schools they do. If you don't understand that give Crean 2 more years or the rest of his contract. You are satisfied with the results, but many of us aren't and will never be until we hang a legitimate banner in Assembly Hall. Acknowledging he can't get it done isn't classless; in fact its the opposite no matter how you label it.

[Stuhoo 81,450]

I'm not a fan of Crean and I don't think he is a very good coach. However I could careless what a coach does on the sideline if he can hang a banner. Our next coach could be on the sidelines on a pogo stick wearing a zebra print suit for all I care as long as he wins.

 

This WOULD look good on Coach Crean!

 

[schoosier 3,504]

I think it is funny that you have some screwed up rational for the name calling of Crean. Also, where has #1 ever really said they are lowering their expectations? You won't find an example, but one of your argumentative tactics is to take a few comments and extrapolate something from it that was never there. You've done this countless times, and you always seem to pretend that in doing so you better your own argument. How about instead you come up with a rebuttal for the opposing view points rather than creating false ones to argue

You must not have read most of my posts. For every coaching blunder Crean makes which are many, I have usually pointed them out. For every coaching success though quite few, I have also noted them. Usually when I take heat from the apologists, I try to take it to a basketball analysis cause that usually throws themoff guard. And that's exactly how I judge Crean; as a basketball coach and head of Indiana basketball. It's easy to get sidetracked by his other concerning behavior both during the games or directly after whether its his taunting of opposing coaches or lack of accountability during his post game press conferences. Only those close to me know my knickname for him and you don't since you would label me a hater that I'm not. Its funny to call names at anyone but Crean by you and others. What makes him untouchable whereKnight and others aren't? Just because he's a lousy coach everyone gets their feelings hurt, but the truth in his coaching hurts more.

[Stuhoo 81,450]

I'm not a fan of Crean and I don't think he is a very good coach. However I could careless what a coach does on the sideline if he can hang a banner. Our next coach could be on the sidelines on a pogo stick wearing a zebra print suit for all I care as long as he wins.

 

Should this ever happen...I have a team training video!

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bHP-wFBO6k

[KingPG21 6,587]

You must not have read most of my posts. For every coaching blunder Crean makes which are many, I have usually pointed them out. For every coaching success though quite few, I have also noted them. Usually when I take heat from the apologists, I try to take it to a basketball analysis cause that usually throws themoff guard. And that's exactly how I judge Crean; as a basketball coach and head of Indiana basketball. It's easy to get sidetracked by his other concerning behavior both during the games or directly after whether its his taunting of opposing coaches or lack of accountability during his post game press conferences. Only those close to me know my knickname for him and you don't since you would label me a hater that I'm not. Its funny to call names at anyone but Crean by you and others. What makes him untouchable whereKnight and others aren't? Just because he's a lousy coach everyone gets their feelings hurt, but the truth in his coaching hurts more.

...... did you even read most of my post? Who said anything about Knight? Though this is a perfect example of you creating false arguments to strengthen your own argumemt.

[Hutch89 2,939]

No one's reading any posts!!

[ou812dude 3,326]

No one's reading any posts!!

umm...did you say something?

[WayneFleekHoosier 48,521]

No one's reading any posts!!

lol!

I read every word of every post.

I'm thorough! :)

That reminds me, those Hodge posts from a few days back gaveth me a headache.