(2015) C Thomas Bryant to IU

[FKfootball]

I have a gut feeling that we wont land him. Too much uncertainty in our program.

[MartintheMopMan]

I have a gut feeling that we wont land him. Too much uncertainty in our program.

Something tells me your gut feelings are always the most negative outcome possible.

[ccgeneral]

I have a gut feeling that we wont land him. Too much uncertainty in our program.

You have the same play with every post. I'll give Crean a little credit for at least mixing it up once. I think you are due for what we had IUFanCharlie on.

[FKfootball]

Something tells me your gut feelings are always the most negative outcome possible.

Can u blame me? I want to win as bad as anyone here.

[HoosierHoops1]

I have a gut feeling that we wont land him. Too much uncertainty in our program.

Uncertainty?

 

The coach said he's staying. The AD said he's staying.

 

Whether that ends up being the case, it doen;t sound uncertain

[FKfootball]

We have no idea what the roster will look like.

[bleedhoosier]

All I see is the media wanting a hot story about Crean being fired or leaving. Then a few boosters aren't high on him. I don't think there is anything else to see here. We are talking this thing into the ground but.. What else should we be talking about? Lol

[Stuhoo]

Uncertainty?

 

The coach said he's staying. The AD said he's staying.

 

Whether that ends up being the case, it doen;t sound uncertain

 

The AD DID NOT say "he's staying".

 

The AD said "I continue to support Tom Crean as our coach."

 

Those are VERY different statements. Very, very different.

[HoosierHoops1]

Lot's of teams don't right now. A lot of variables that need to be addressed first few weeks after the season ends.

 

pUKe doesn't know, nor does Syrexcuse.

[HoosierHoops1]

The AD DID NOT say "he's staying".

 

The AD said "I continue to support Tom Crean as our coach."

 

Those are VERY different statements. Very, very different.

He said it 3 weeks ago.

I wouldn't kiss fans or media's ass's either and repeat myself.

[Alford Bailey]

I have a gut feeling that we wont land him. Too much uncertainty in our program.

Yea, but with problems at Syracuse and maybe no room at UK.

[Stuhoo]

Uncertainty?

 

The coach said he's staying. The AD said he's staying.

 

Whether that ends up being the case, it doen;t sound uncertain

 

 

He said it 3 weeks ago.

I wouldn't kiss fans or media's ass's either and repeat myself.

 

Not quite, my Crean-supportive friend!  Three weeks ago he said:

 

"I'm bullish on Tom...He's done a really good job with these guys. It's ridiculous to say that someone is coaching for his job for one game and that it would be up or down in one game...He's a great coach...He has my full support. I have a great deal of confidence in Tom's body of work. This team overachieved early and then hit a tough patch."

"There is a sense that Tom is only keeping his job because of the buyout...And while that's a big number and a significant amount of money, that's not what is keeping him in the job. I think he needs to be the coach. ... I want him to be the coach here."

 

What he DID NOT say three weeks ago is that..."He's staying"

[GloryDays]

A little off topic but he misses most of his rebounds by going for the weakside block.  Bryant seems to be ahead in the fundamental department already maybe he could help get through the Perea on this.

  I've always thought that Perea would be better served as a weak side defender and cleanup man on offense.

With Bryant here we could use the two together with troy on the wing.The key word being could.

  I really feel small ball is a bad idea in this physical league.

[Bryan Medema]

I've always thought that Perea would be better served as a weak side defender and cleanup man on offense.
With Bryant here we could use the two together with troy on the wing.The key word being could.
I really feel small ball is a bad idea in this physical league.

Couldn't agree more. HMP looks great when he has space to create on O/D and a player in a more engaged role (IE Bryant) could definitely allow HMP to roam without blowing assignments. From the limited film, that seems to be Bryant's forte, though it's always tough to tell when watching HS/AAU mix tapes. Either way, those two (along with Troy) could provide some outstanding highlights

(Disclaimer: Yes, I know that, according to this board, CTC won't use him right and that I'm dreaming)

[Bobman1]

You realize it wasn't lack of post presence that killed our defense. It was our lack of being able to stop dribble penetration at the wings. Remember to wasn't the same team minus Vonleh. We also had JBJR and Johnson as new starters. Adding a big doesn't fix our defense as simply as you are stating. There must be improvement on the wings first and foremost. Look at other teams of our size (MSU) and their ability to play defense.

MSU has enough size. Matt Costello is 6-9 245, Hanner is 6-9 225. Similar but not the same. Izzo's roster contains many forwards who play as big men, Draymond Green, Brandon Dawson, even Adreian Payne a little, but they all can fight with the big boys and be a bruiser when they need to. Izzo is a great defensive coach and even defended Tony Bennet's Cavaliers better than the best defensive team in the country. Hanner is just smaller in every category than the other centers of the Big Ten. Look at Brandon Dawson today in the game, in the final minutes he and his team would grab rebounds with effort, with force, with desire. That is something that this team lacked, a will. I would like our team to be like a Duke(obviously, being realistic, not at that caliber) but have a tall decent big man( Jahlil Okafor) but also have a good forward who can rebound(Justise Winslow). The problem with our defense is defending in the paint. Sure, our wings aren't the best defenders, but if they play defense, but get beat, a shot blocker should be there to help create havoc for the dribbler. Our Guards need to take a leap defensively and Thomas Bryant needs to get his ass to Bloomington and start improving this team.

[Bryan Medema]

Our Guards need to take a leap defensively and Thomas Bryant needs to get his ass to Bloomington and start improving this team.

Slightly OT, but does anyone have any data (defensive efficiency type #s I guess) that shows how much guards have improved year to year under CTC and if we can expect our guards to make a leap forward? I contend that Bryant could help simply by making other teams think twice, but I understand our guards have to be defensively competent first.

[Bobman1]

Slightly OT, but does anyone have any data (defensive efficiency type #s I guess) that shows how much guards have improved year to year under CTC and if we can expect our guards to make a leap forward? I contend that Bryant could help simply by making other teams think twice, but I understand our guards have to be defensively competent first.

I was looking for a stat that showed what teams average in the paint against us. Couldn't find one though, Oladipo improved greatly defensively and I think RoJo can too, if JBJ wants to he could as well, just don't think he'll really spend the offseason on defense. He would prefer shooting half putters just in case he gets the ball with a second left in the game.

[WayneFleekHoosier]

@dandakich: Hearing good things bout Bryant and IU "@THELoganCouch: @dandakich What are the chances of Thon Maker or Thomas Bryant coming to IU?”

[HoosierHoops1]

 

Not quite, my Crean-supportive friend!  Three weeks ago he said:

 

"I'm bullish on Tom...He's done a really good job with these guys. It's ridiculous to say that someone is coaching for his job for one game and that it would be up or down in one game...He's a great coach...He has my full support. I have a great deal of confidence in Tom's body of work. This team overachieved early and then hit a tough patch."

"There is a sense that Tom is only keeping his job because of the buyout...And while that's a big number and a significant amount of money, that's not what is keeping him in the job. I think he needs to be the coach. ... I want him to be the coach here."

 

What he DID NOT say three weeks ago is that..."He's staying"

 

It's not about supporting anyone. It's about a bunch of adults going looney because they want to play semantics and say what someone else must do, say, be, think in order for some perceived reality to actually be reality.

 

I'm "get a damn good coach", supportive. Not "let's change because we don't like the current guy for the sake of change", .band waggoned.

[HoosierHoops1]

By the way.

 

"There is a sense that Tom is only keeping his job because of the buyout," Glass said. "And while that's a big number and a significant amount of money, that's not what is keeping him in the job."

 

I think you'd need to come out and change your tune or make a change, before it changes to not having a job.

 

Go get me a top 5-10 coach (not in his 60's) and I'll be ok with it.