College Bball Thread

[WayneFleekHoosier]

O$U seems about like IU when Crean took over.


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[Uspshoosier]

2020 first recruit is off the board

Been a crazy day on the recruiting front. Kyree Walker capping it off by committing to Arizona State. Explosive five star 2020 wing
@coreyevans



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[Class of '66 Old Fart]

1 hour ago, Brass Cannon said:

Any ideas on why he was released?

His request.  Probably the coaching change but that's speculation on my part.

 

More on Funderburk and Beverly leaving.

http://www.cleveland.com/osu/2017/06/derek_funderburk_dismissed_fro.html

Edited July 1, 2017 by Class of '66 Old Fart
Added news link

[HoosierHoops1]

3 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

O$U seems about like IU when Crean took over.


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They've got a long, long way to fall to reach those depths. We returned 32 career points and 57 career rebounds.

Freddie McSwain had 84 and 77 last season...

[Brass Cannon]

2 hours ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

His request.  Probably the coaching change but that's speculation on my part.

 

More on Funderburk and Beverly leaving.

http://www.cleveland.com/osu/2017/06/derek_funderburk_dismissed_fro.html

Id take a flier on him tbh, just put him on a very short leash.  

[HoosierHoops1]

8 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

Id take a flier on him tbh, just put him on a very short leash.  

Sometimes a guy on a short leash has just enough to hang the team.

[Brass Cannon]

3 hours ago, HoosierHoops1 said:

Sometimes a guy on a short leash has just enough to hang the team.

Good coaches manage those guys 

EDIT

Seems it was his grades not causing trouble. I see no reason not to give a kid a second chance for bad grades. 

[HoosierHoops1]

I think CAM has 125,000 reasons not to.

But, I see your point.

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Was just thinking of this yesterday as Devils advocate.

 

Indiana finishes 18-16. Losses it's 3 most "talented" players and replaces them with middle ranked recruits. Yet, the fanbase (myself included) is expecting a tournament team and a decent year.

 

Are we crazy? On paper it makes zero sense. My explanation to this madness is twofold. 1. The talent hurt as much as it helped at times due to selfishness and mixed goals (winning vs "showing out").

2. The team vastly underperformed it's talent in large part due to coaching and in small part due to chemistry, mojo, lack of momentum, and maybe just giving up at times.

 

Boy, I hope I'm right and not just looking through Crimson colored glasses because on paper there is little reason to believe we will have a great/good year.

 

 

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[Stuhoo]

On 7/1/2017 at 1:56 PM, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Was just thinking of this yesterday as Devils advocate.  Indiana finishes 18-16. Losses it's 3 most "talented" players and replaces them with middle ranked recruits. Yet, the fanbase (myself included) is expecting a tournament team and a decent year.

 

Are we crazy? On paper it makes zero sense. My explanation to this madness is twofold. 1. The talent hurt as much as it helped at times due to selfishness and mixed goals (winning vs "showing out").

2. The team vastly underperformed it's talent in large part due to coaching and in small part due to chemistry, mojo, lack of momentum, and maybe just giving up at times.

 

Boy, I hope I'm right and not just looking through Crimson colored glasses because on paper there is little reason to believe we will have a great/good year.

 

 

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 IMO, you forgot an extremely important component of that 18-16 record:

Yes, we lost our three most talented players from last year, but that 18-16 record was the product of a steady slide during the season that occurred after the loss of by far our best player, OG (especially defensively). OG also missed almost all of the Ft Wayne loss with stomach flu prior to his knee injury.

So, while we sucked last year, we really didn't lose as much from our suckfest as it might initially seem like. And, we don't just gain three mid ranked freshmen, we also gain Collin Hartman.

12-5 with OG, 6-11 after he got hurt. No doubt some really bad losses before he got hurt, but also some very good wins.

 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

I like it Stu!


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[Stuhoo]

I like it Stu!


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I'm your "unwarranted rainbow sunshine" guru!
BTW; if DeRon Davis gets injured, we are gonna suck so so much!

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Hahaha


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[HoosierAloha]

I'm your "unwarranted rainbow sunshine" guru!
BTW; if DeRon Davis gets injured, we are gonna suck so so much!

At least we'll get a top draft pick. Trust the process!!!

[Hoosierfan2017]

There are four main reasons why I think next year will be much better in spite of losing our top three players.  

1) Leadership. Gone will be the "everyone is a leader" days. I think Collin will be the leader of our team and I think he'll do a great job at it. 

2) Defined Positions. We will no longer play "positionless" basketball. Our players will know their roles which will help them do them well  

3) Defense. Our staff seems to be instilling the mentality that this will be a tough, nasty team that plays physical defense. This will help make up for the offensive firepower we lost  

4) Accountabilty. I think Archie will hold players accountable for their mistakes and I don't think he will play favorites. This should make our players value the ball and cut down on turnovers. They won't be as sloppy if they know they'll get benched for it  

 

Edited July 1, 2017 by Hoosierfan2017
The maths messed me up

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

5 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

There are four main reasons why I think next year will be much better in spite of losing our top four players.  

1) Leadership. Gone will be the "everyone is a leader" days. I think Collin will be the leader of our team and I think he'll do a great job at it. 

2) Defined Positions. We will no longer play "positionless" basketball. Our players will know their roles which will help them do them well  

3) Defense. Our staff seems to be instilling the mentality that this will be a tough, nasty team that plays physical defense. This will help make up for the offensive firepower we lost  

4) Accountabilty. I think Archie will hold players accountable for their mistakes and I don't think he will play favorites. This should make our players value the ball and cut down on turnovers. They won't be as sloppy if they know they'll get benched for it  

[HoosierHoops1]

57 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

There are four main reasons why I think next year will be much better in spite of losing our top four players.  

1) Leadership. Gone will be the "everyone is a leader" days. I think Collin will be the leader of our team and I think he'll do a great job at it. 

2) Defined Positions. We will no longer play "positionless" basketball. Our players will know their roles which will help them do them well  

3) Defense. Our staff seems to be instilling the mentality that this will be a tough, nasty team that plays physical defense. This will help make up for the offensive firepower we lost  

4) Accountabilty. I think Archie will hold players accountable for their mistakes and I don't think he will play favorites. This should make our players value the ball and cut down on turnovers. They won't be as sloppy if they know they'll get benched for it  

5) Mathematics We only lost our top 3 players. And, when it comes to most of the conference season, our top 2.

[Hoosierfan2017]

5)Mathematics We only lost our top 3 players. And, when it comes to most of the conference season, our top 2.

Lol oops, I had four on my mind with the four reasons and it stuck [emoji16]

 

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

Apparently nothing in Braxton Beverly's skill set that appeals to Archie.

From NextUpRecruits:  Schools that have inquired about 4 star PG Braxton Beverly:  Maryland, Clemson, NC State, WKU, VCU, UMass

[Brass Cannon]

1 hour ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Apparently nothing in Braxton Beverly's skill set that appeals to Archie.

From NextUpRecruits:  Schools that have inquired about 4 star PG Braxton Beverly:  Maryland, Clemson, NC State, WKU, VCU, UMass

4 star?