College Bball Thread

[HoosierHoopster]

15 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

Is anyone else getting a bit tired of all the oohing and aahing every time Purdue looks halfway decent or somebody has a big game? Tell me they've owned us in the last 6 years without telling me they've owned us in the last 6 years. 

 

I've decided not to be a jerk and bump the posts from last November when people were afraid they would go undefeated. 

Maybe PU should be afraid of IU this year? 

[IU/Butler/Notre Dame]

2 hours ago, J34 said:

IU/Butler/Notre Dame/Purdue?

I do like Braden smith as a player and I followed Furst at Blackhawk ,  i already feel dirty about that ….don’t pile it on em 

[IU/Butler/Notre Dame]

1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

He won’t struggle because of B1G rugby; that’s his strength.

He may struggle because of B1G length and quickness.

There is the million dollar question …can he adjust and overcome that consistently and can he maintain a 40% three point accuracy over a prolonged period …if so he will be great if not he’ll just be another guy 

[IU/Butler/Notre Dame]

1 hour ago, go iu bb said:

I admit I was pretty disappointed when Kaufman chose PU over IU. It's starting to look like he might not be as good as advertised and not as big of a miss as I thought. Instead of having an immediate impact he red shirted last year. This year he's coming off the bench and was only 8th in minutes played in their first game. He still has a lot of time to improve, but that certainly takes away the sting of missing on him.

When watching him in high school I always thought he downshifted a gear when playing people his size ( which was rare ) or physical opponents …I wasn’t sure he has the outside game necessary to not have to do heavy dirty work ….I agree lots of time to fix it but I always viewed him as a solid contributor at big ten level not a future all American or anything 

[IU/Butler/Notre Dame]

39 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said:

Maybe PU should be afraid of IU this year? 

The tide has definitely shifted for this year 

[craigyv88]

1 hour ago, triple said:

I understand why Kaufman didn't want to play for Archie, but the Purdue call was/is baffling to me.  The last Purdue forward (or big for that matter) to see any level of success in the NBA was Carl Landry...drafted 15 years ago.  Purdue makes sense for giants and others like Furst who lack the athleticism and range to make it to the league, because Painter plays to their strengths.  I wish Kaufman luck, but first redshirting and then not starting in year two?  Ouch!

I thought it was a strange destination for him as well but likely a product of the times.   He committed to PU in late October 2020 when there was no in-person recruiting and hadn't been for quite a while, and I think if he could have taken an actual OV to Virginia he would have wound up there.  Seemed like because of the circumstances in-state schools were almost the only viable options.  And, as you mentioned, I can see why he didn't want to commit to Archie and probably get stuck playing the 5 in the big ten.

[Stuhoo]

15 minutes ago, IU/Butler/Notre Dame said:

The tide has definitely shifted for this year 

As an IU fan I prefer to say, “ The tide has shifted.”

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

44 minutes ago, IU/Butler/Notre Dame said:

The tide has definitely shifted for this year 

We gotta beat them for them to be afraid. Whether anyone here likes it or not, no one right now is scared of Indiana because everyone in the league has beaten Indiana and beaten up on Indiana. But, the dudes on this roster have to use that to their benefit as a chip on their shoulder. 

[IU/Butler/Notre Dame]

1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

As an IU fan I prefer to say, “ The tide has shifted.”

If the distinction is the longevity of said shift …..I would agree with your preference …it’s a delicate balance hoping our freshman are two or three year players …if so we are headed in a great direction 

[Josh]

7 hours ago, go iu bb said:

I admit I was pretty disappointed when Kaufman chose PU over IU. It's starting to look like he might not be as good as advertised and not as big of a miss as I thought. Instead of having an immediate impact he red shirted last year. This year he's coming off the bench and was only 8th in minutes played in their first game. He still has a lot of time to improve, but that certainly takes away the sting of missing on him.

People here (really Hoosiers in general) tend to vastly overrate players from the state of Indiana because they think their zip codes make them better than the rest of the country.  It confounds me.

[go iu bb]

8 minutes ago, Josh said:

People here (really Hoosiers in general) tend to vastly overrate players from the state of Indiana because they think their zip codes make them better than the rest of the country.  It confounds me.

I hear you but I don't really think that was the case here. He was a top 50 recruit and I think at one point he was ranked somewhere 30-35 so even people outside of Indiana thought highly of his skills. Didn't he also when Indiana POY his junior year? Anyways, he's not turning into the difference maker he was thought to be as a recruit. Certainly not an immediate impact type player regardless of whether or not he turns into a good college player.

[Alford Bailey]

8 hours ago, triple said:

I understand why Kaufman didn't want to play for Archie, but the Purdue call was/is baffling to me.  The last Purdue forward (or big for that matter) to see any level of success in the NBA was Carl Landry...drafted 15 years ago.  Purdue makes sense for giants and others like Furst who lack the athleticism and range to make it to the league, because Painter plays to their strengths.  I wish Kaufman luck, but first redshirting and then not starting in year two?  Ouch!

Definitely an odd move. Not many top 50 kids want to red shirt 

[IU/Butler/Notre Dame]

3 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

Definitely an odd move. Not many top 50 kids want to red shirt 

He was dealing with nagging injuries but I also think painter recognized he wasn’t gonna be ready to make an impact 

[Josh]

39 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

I hear you but I don't really think that was the case here. He was a top 50 recruit and I think at one point he was ranked somewhere 30-35 so even people outside of Indiana thought highly of his skills. Didn't he also when Indiana POY his junior year? Anyways, he's not turning into the difference maker he was thought to be as a recruit. Certainly not an immediate impact type player regardless of whether or not he turns into a good college player.

Trey Kaufman was Mr Basketball.  Anthony Leal was Mr Basketball in Indiana too.  Kristian Lander was on track to be if he didn't reclass.

I know that means a lot to some people, but I think it's vastly overrated.  

[go iu bb]

8 minutes ago, Josh said:

Trey Kaufman was Mr Basketball.  Anthony Leal was Mr Basketball in Indiana too.  Kristian Lander was on track to be if he didn't reclass.

I know that means a lot to some people, but I think it's vastly overrated.  

Kaufman was also Gatorade POY his junior year. The only player in IN to ever do that. He was never Mr. Basketball since Furst beat him out for that award. Mr. Basketball and GPOY don't guarantee that the player will be great at the next level but over it's history it is a pretty good indicator. These awards, much like rankings, aren't the be-all and end-all of determining success at the collegiate level but they are decent indicators. They're correct more often than they're wrong.

I disagree that Lander would have won Mr. Basketball. 

I guess you're trying to say you knew all along that Kaufman wouldn't have an immediate impact in college?

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

3 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

 

I disagree that Lander would have won Mr. Basketball. 

 

I'm in agreement with you.  I watched several of his high school games and IMO he just never seemed to really stand out or dominate.  And, geography was not in his favor when it came to getting publicity and statewide attention.

[IU/Butler/Notre Dame]

31 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

Kaufman was also Gatorade POY his junior year. The only player in IN to ever do that. He was never Mr. Basketball since Furst beat him out for that award. Mr. Basketball and GPOY don't guarantee that the player will be great at the next level but over it's history it is a pretty good indicator. These awards, much like rankings, aren't the be-all and end-all of determining success at the collegiate level but they are decent indicators. They're correct more often than they're wrong.

I disagree that Lander would have won Mr. Basketball. 

I guess you're trying to say you knew all along that Kaufman wouldn't have an immediate impact in college?

 

26 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

I'm in agreement with you.  I watched several of his high school games and IMO he just never seemed to really stand out or dominate.  And, geography was not in his favor when it came to getting publicity and statewide attention.

I don’t see anyone trumping Furst with the consecutive title runs and the domination he had during the runs ….lander staying wouldn’t have gotten them into state title contention and old fart is right he was geographically disadvantaged 

[Uspshoosier]

Wright st over  Davidson right now by 13 with 17 min to go.  Sisleys older brother plays for Wright st now transferred from Evansville 

iupui/Drake tipping off 

game of the night is probably Louisville/Bellarmine at 9 on ACC network 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

4 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Wright st over  Davidson right now by 13 with 17 min to go.  Sisleys older brother plays for Wright st now transferred from Evansville 

iupui/Drake tipping off 

game of the night is probably Louisville/Bellarmine at 9 on ACC network 

Chances Bellarmine wins that?

[Uspshoosier]

4 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Chances Bellarmine wins that?

Pretty good I would think.  Louisville lost to a D2 team already and only beat Chaminade by 7 both in exhibition play   I think it will be close