College Bball Thread

[HoosierAloha 30,068]

The door is very much open for general attendance if we can somehow get a grip on this thing before March. This pleases me. 

Get a grip..? We’ve collectively botched that for almost a year now. I don’t see that changing in a few short months even with vaccines being rolled out.


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[Stuhoo 80,889]

5 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

Get a grip..? We’ve collectively botched that for almost a year now. I don’t see that changing in a few short months even with vaccines being rolled out.


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Sadly, you are right. 

 

[Uspshoosier 45,718]

2 hours ago, Brass Cannon said:

11 Big Ten teams ahead of us 

So is Colgate 

[TheWatShot 14,006]

4 hours ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Matt Norlander -

Sources tell CBS Sports the NCAA Tournament will use these venues to host the 2021 men’s tournament:  Bankers Life Fieldhouse,  Hinkle Fieldhouse,  Indiana Farmers Coliseum,  Mackey Arena,  Assembly Hall,  Lucas Oil (two courts).   Only one game at Lucas Oil at a time.

I take it we won't be hosting any NIT games, then. 

[Hovadipo 56,257]

2 hours ago, HoosierAloha said:

Get a grip..? We’ve collectively botched that for almost a year now. I don’t see that changing in a few short months even with vaccines being rolled out.


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I’m a sunshine pumper. Sue me. 

[NashvilleHoosier 3,712]

4 hours ago, Uspshoosier said:

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings

I've been wondering if they would adjust the quads at all to adjust for limited or no fans but I can't find anything saying they have, but it sounds like the door may be open to do so? Have you heard anything about this? I suppose that may be too difficult to account for places where there is partial attendance allowed. 

Good news is our schedule is absolutely loaded with opportunity, and only one chance at a bad loss. I hope by seasons end, the Butler win will be at least a Q2 win. 

[Uspshoosier 45,718]

2 minutes ago, NashvilleHoosier said:

I've been wondering if they would adjust the quads at all to adjust for limited or no fans but I can't find anything saying they have, but it sounds like the door may be open to do so? Have you heard anything about this? I suppose that may be too difficult to account for places where there is partial attendance allowed. 

Good news is our schedule is absolutely loaded with opportunity, and only one chance at a bad loss. I hope by seasons end, the Butler win will be at least a Q2 win. 

This season is going to be different.  Last I heard those questions would be discussed later in the season but these initials NET rankings are a good starting point.  David Worlock is a really good follow on Twitter for information about the committee. Dave Gavitt as well.  

[coonhounds 8,955]

So with indiana hosting the tournament the refs will probably shaft us harder. I predict butler indiana and purdue will all be missing this year's tournament that way nobody gets unfair advantages lol

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[Class of '66 Old Fart 84,774]

Our Hoosiers are scheduled to host PUke on the 14th.

From Purdue Men's Basketball - 

Tuesday's game between Nebraska and Purdue has been postponed as mutually agreed upon by both teams due to health and safety concerns. The two schools will work with the Big Ten Conference to reschedule the game at a later date.

[LIHoosier 26,205]

3 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Our Hoosiers are scheduled to host PUke on the 14th.

From Purdue Men's Basketball - 

Tuesday's game between Nebraska and Purdue has been postponed as mutually agreed upon by both teams due to health and safety concerns. The two schools will work with the Big Ten Conference to reschedule the game at a later date.

We're supposed to play at Nebrasketball on Sunday the 10th too.

[Brass Cannon 24,814]

4 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Our Hoosiers are scheduled to host PUke on the 14th.

From Purdue Men's Basketball - 

Tuesday's game between Nebraska and Purdue has been postponed as mutually agreed upon by both teams due to health and safety concerns. The two schools will work with the Big Ten Conference to reschedule the game at a later date.

Which school?

[Class of '66 Old Fart 84,774]

8 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

Which school?

Hasn't been specified that I've seen.

 

UPDATE:  Just saw info that suggests the problem is with Nebraska.

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[Brass Cannon 24,814]

8 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Hasn't been specified that I've seen.

 

UPDATE:  Just saw info that suggests the problem is with Nebraska.

Welp we really need to play that game.  Critical if we win against Maryland to get them to keep momentum. 

[Alford Bailey 12,386]

Guessing the economic impact to the Hoosier state will be minimal if no fans in the stands.

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan 6,225]

Things that make you scratch your head

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[Class of '66 Old Fart 84,774]

15 hours ago, Alford Bailey said:

Guessing the economic impact to the Hoosier state will be minimal if no fans in the stands.

FWIW an article in the Indy Star on this point.

The incoming NCAA tournament would provide a financial jolt to the struggling economy of Indianapolis of at least $100 million, officials said Monday. 

With no clear decision yet on whether or how to include fans, the exact economic impact of the tournament is uncertain. Still, tourism and sports officials estimate the tournament will generate at least nine figures in economic spending as the city continues to reel from the coronavirus pandemic. 

Indiana Sports Corp. President Ryan Vaughn called it a "tremendous opportunity" for the city, "especially as we continue to kind of endure cancellations from tourism like most other cities across the country." 

Officials estimate roughly 2,500 hotel rooms are needed to house the 68 teams, media and staff that will descend upon Indianapolis in the spring. 

It's also an unprecedented event for the city during an unusual time, making economic calculations challenging. 

Fans at 2021 March Madness games? What we know.

"The exact number won't be calculated until the nets have been cut down and a champion is crowned, because we won't know exactly how many visitors come in and out of the city and how spending is categorized," said Chris Gahl of Visit Indy, the city's tourism arm. "But we feel very confident in a very conservative pre-game estimate that a healthy nine figures in economic impact will be felt from hosting March Madness in its entirety."

Many of the taxes generated from hosting such sporting events go to the county's Capital Improvement Board, which owns the city's major professional sports arenas, including Lucas Oil Stadium and the Indiana Convention Center, which it also operates.  

Those revenues include taxes on food and beverage, hotel rooms, car rentals, ticket sales and cigarettes. It also includes income and sales taxes within the designated professional sports development area that encompasses certain properties downtown. 

Monthly revenues dropped consistently in 2020 when compared to 2019 beginning in April, with tax revenues fueling the CIB dropping by $3.9 million or 38%. They stayed low throughout the year, dropping by nearly 55% in June and 53% in September.

Sinking revenues forced the Capital Improvement Board to slash its budget by roughly 26% for 2021. 

Andy Mallon, executive director of the board, declined to speculate on the economic impact the tournament would bring. But he said in a statement that the NCAA decision is a testament to the health and safety procedures the board has adopted for its facilities. 

"We look forward to welcoming the student-athletes, coaches, and families and, if possible, fans to ICCLOS where we can ensure a safe and healthy environment to enjoy basketball," he said. "This will be a March to remember.”

Steve Horwitz, an economics professor at Ball State University, said it's hard to estimate the economic impact without knowing whether there will be fans present. He called the nine-figure estimate reasonable. 

Either way, he said, the decision is a significant boost for the local economy. 

"As we say in economics, the opportunity cost is basically nothing," he said. "The rooms would largely sit empty in March and April, so this is a big deal."

[Uspshoosier 45,718]

 

[Stuhoo 80,889]

2 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

 

Okay USPS...sometimes I am amazed that you find this stuff. This chart is so cool!

Let me pull the most Captain Obvious takeaway for IUBB from the chart:

We are the most extreme example of “best shots + worst shooters” in the NCAA.

[Uspshoosier 45,718]

40 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Okay USPS...sometimes I am amazed that you find this stuff. This chart is so cool!

Let me pull the most Captain Obvious takeaway for IUBB from the chart:

We are the most extreme example of “best shots + worst shooters” in the NCAA.

Follow the right people on Twitter and cool stuff like this shows up and of course I have to share it with other hoops junkies 

[Uspshoosier 45,718]