College Bball Thread

[Uspshoosier]

3 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

So it's a wash if PSU, Iowa, Michigan, Maryland and the rest of that group has the best record since the restart? Especially when they haven't played the same number of games.

Not sure I just posted the tweet  I found interesting but not interesting enough to look at it any deeper.   

[Rico]

I cannot stand Kerr Kiriisa, but boy that kid can shoot.

[Demo]

32 minutes ago, LIHoosier said:

Baylor holds on to beat Arkansas

If anyone ever wants to see the anti-clutch gene, watch the Arkansas kid get a perfect bounce off the free throw miss and gets a clean look at a corner 3 that he proceeds to drill off the side of the board. That was ugly. 

[AKHoosier]

So is Northwestern making the NCAAT again this year? 

15-5, 2nd in B1G currently. 

If so they should just go ahead and give Collins a lifetime contract.

[Uspshoosier]

11 minutes ago, Demo said:

If anyone ever wants to see the anti-clutch gene, watch the Arkansas kid get a perfect bounce off the free throw miss and gets a clean look at a corner 3 that he proceeds to drill off the side of the board. That was ugly. 

Only shot of the game.  Freshman definitely looked like one on that play.   Crazy how it got to him in the first place 

[LIHoosier]

14 minutes ago, Demo said:

If anyone ever wants to see the anti-clutch gene, watch the Arkansas kid get a perfect bounce off the free throw miss and gets a clean look at a corner 3 that he proceeds to drill off the side of the board. That was ugly. 

I was looking at IU's stats compared to the rest of NCAA recently, and Arkansas makes IU look like the Warriors. They're 350th in 3's made and tried and 320th or so in %. Yikes.

[lillurk]

6 minutes ago, AKHoosier said:

So is Northwestern making the NCAAT again this year? 

15-5, 2nd in B1G currently. 

If so they should just go ahead and give Collins a lifetime contract.

Interesting case. Their non-conference gave them nothing notable, and their remaining conference schedule is tough. Not hard to see them going 10-10 in conference like this or similar, which the Torvik teamcast model projects would put them in Dayton, pending BTT performance.

To me it looks a little weak for even that, but I’m not bracketologist.

[LIHoosier]

2 minutes ago, lillurk said:

Interesting case. Their non-conference gave them nothing notable, and their remaining conference schedule is tough. Not hard to see them going 10-10 in conference like this or similar, which the Torvik teamcast model projects would put them in Dayton, pending BTT performance.

To me it looks a little weak for even that, but I’m not bracketologist.

They need to hope Liberty stays a Quad 1 win which will be tough cuz Liberty's SOS is gonna tank the rest of the year and that Pitt doesn't fall to quad 3 cuz NW got absolutely blasted at home by them in the B1G/ACC game.

[go iu bb]

1 hour ago, Uspshoosier said:

Unbalanced conference schedules for you 

I've been wondering about what the schedule strengths look like now vs preseason. This answers the question about IU's.

[Stuhoo]

1 hour ago, Uspshoosier said:

 

FAU up 3 on Western Kentucky 

Winner.

21-1

[HinnyHoosier]

K State with the…lavender home uniforms?


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[HoosierAloha]

2 hours ago, Uspshoosier said:

Not sure I just posted the tweet  I found interesting but not interesting enough to look at it any deeper.   

Just interesting some of the "stats" and timing.

[RaceToTheTop]

3 hours ago, lillurk said:

Interesting case. Their non-conference gave them nothing notable, and their remaining conference schedule is tough. Not hard to see them going 10-10 in conference like this or similar, which the Torvik teamcast model projects would put them in Dayton, pending BTT performance.

To me it looks a little weak for even that, but I’m not bracketologist.

FWIW (which isn't much), my Big Ten WAR ratings through today for the Big Ten have the following values:

• 1.  Purdue +7.16
• 2.  Michigan State +2.21
• 3.  Indiana +2.15
• 4.  Illinois +2.11
• 5.  Northwestern +1.71
• 6.  Rutgers +1.31
• 7.  Maryland +1.25
• 8.  Wisconsin +0.54
• 9.  Penn State +0.46
• 10. Iowa +0.28
• 11. Ohio State -1.02
• 12. Michigan -1.32
• 13. Nebraska -1.85
• 14. Minnesota -4.71

Also, FWIW, last season any team that finished the year at +1 or higher made the tournament as an at large.  At the two-thirds point of the year, that value would be at +0.67.  Northwestern is positioned very well, IMO.  Their last eleven games should all be quad one and quad two and even winning just four of them would give them a 10-10 conference record and double digit quad 1 and 2 wins most likely.  That would probably put them squarely on the bubble.  Going 5-6 IMO puts them in.

[RaceToTheTop]

Can't remember a regular season day this early in the year with so many games important to seeding/making the tournament.  The Big 12/SEC challenge certainly was a factor in that.

[LamarCheeks]

Had to work today, so wasn't able to pay much attention to sports until the IU game.

So a while ago, I go through the channels and come upon the Arizona-Washington game. That's on the West Coast, I think, so it's gotta be live -- I'll give it a look-see. I watch for about a half-hour, and a minute ago, hear: "Coming up next: Ohio State at Indiana." 

To quote Roberto De Vinzenzo: "What a stupid I am." 

[lillurk]

10 hours ago, RaceToTheTop said:

FWIW (which isn't much), my Big Ten WAR ratings through today for the Big Ten have the following values:

• 1.  Purdue +7.16
• 2.  Michigan State +2.21
• 3.  Indiana +2.15
• 4.  Illinois +2.11
• 5.  Northwestern +1.71
• 6.  Rutgers +1.31
• 7.  Maryland +1.25
• 8.  Wisconsin +0.54
• 9.  Penn State +0.46
• 10. Iowa +0.28
• 11. Ohio State -1.02
• 12. Michigan -1.32
• 13. Nebraska -1.85
• 14. Minnesota -4.71

Also, FWIW, last season any team that finished the year at +1 or higher made the tournament as an at large.  At the two-thirds point of the year, that value would be at +0.67.  Northwestern is positioned very well, IMO.  Their last eleven games should all be quad one and quad two and even winning just four of them would give them a 10-10 conference record and double digit quad 1 and 2 wins most likely.  That would probably put them squarely on the bubble.  Going 5-6 IMO puts them in.

This conclusion seems correct to me, they need 5 or more wins and they’re in, though if they finish 10-10 they’re right near the cut line, and might need some help and/or some BTT work.

For what it’s worth, I think they’re legitimately a good team, resume aside. IU should’ve beat them at SSAH, of course, but they don’t suck.

[Uspshoosier]

16 minutes ago, lillurk said:

This conclusion seems correct to me, they need 5 or more wins and they’re in, though if they finish 10-10 they’re right near the cut line, and might need some help and/or some BTT work.

For what it’s worth, I think they’re legitimately a good team, resume aside. IU should’ve beat them at SSAH, of course, but they don’t suck.

If IU goes 10-10 in the B1G with the road win at Xavier they would be a lock to make it.   Their Sos would be top 25 and their non con sos would be under 100.   IU is in great shape and with how things are shaping out going 9-11 in the B1G would probably get them in and avoid Dayton.  That’s the floor and no one wants that  but in my opinion they wouldn’t be sweating on selection Sunday.     IU has 0 Q3 or 4 losses.  Teams on the cut line are going to have that and most won’t have 2 Q1a road wins in their pocket.   Hopefully they don’t test this and are no where near the cut line 

[lillurk]

8 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

If IU goes 10-10 in the B1G with the road win at Xavier they would be a lock to make it.   Their Sos would be top 25 and their non con sos would be under 100.   IU is in great shape and with how things are shaping out going 9-11 in the B1G would probably get them in and avoid Dayton.  That’s the floor and no one wants that  but in my opinion they wouldn’t be sweating on selection Sunday.     IU has 0 Q3 or 4 losses.  Teams on the cut line are going to have that and most won’t have 2 Q1a road wins in their pocket.   Hopefully they don’t test this and are no where near the cut line 

This is correct, but @RaceToTheTop and I were talking about Northwestern.

[Uspshoosier]

12 minutes ago, lillurk said:

This is correct, but @RaceToTheTop and I were talking about Northwestern.

My bad I guess i should have paid more attention.   Sorry about that 

[Uspshoosier]

16 minutes ago, lillurk said:

This is correct, but @RaceToTheTop and I were talking about Northwestern.

You are spot on with Northwestern.  If they are near the cut line with a non con sos 294 they will be sweating even if they finish 10-10 in the B1G.